02:43:20 <Retro-Hax[m]> hey uh this may sound dumb but uh is there a website for funding like thats similiar to uh gofundme iirc its called
02:46:30 <TrasherDK[m]>  Work in progress: bitejo or kuno
02:47:23 <anarkiocrypto[m]> I made https://kuno.bitejo.com but in the process of finding a new operator. The code is here: https://codeberg.org/anarkio/kuno There is also xmrstarter.com and https://github.com/plowsof/xmr-wishlist-aaS. AFAIK you can also make a fundraiser with BTCPayServer.org's crowdfunding app.
03:02:05 <r4v3r23[m]> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: any update on valldrac's request for more money to develop the Android SDK?
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03:04:14 <idkrn[m]> ?
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03:04:37 <DanIsnotthemanBr> This is more accurate
03:05:35 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Went from server too sdk
03:09:26 <r4v3r23[m]> was there another CCS made?
03:09:54 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Nope
03:14:08 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/vd-molly-payments-stage1.html
03:15:05 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/252
03:29:56 <DanIsnotthemanBr> <idkrn[m]> "?" <- ¿
03:40:23 <r4v3r23[m]> <DanIsnotthemanBr> "https://repo.getmonero.org/..." <- yeah i saw that. not sure to who the request is being made
03:40:44 <r4v3r23[m]> would they need to open a new proposal?
03:40:44 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Community
03:41:08 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Issue to me is that it wasnt completed
03:41:28 <DanIsnotthemanBr> And now changing the funded proposal
03:42:11 <DanIsnotthemanBr> And took took two years before a peep on the progress
03:42:25 <DanIsnotthemanBr> s/took//
06:06:12 <Retro-Hax[m]> <TrasherDK[m]> " Work in progress: bitejo or..." <- ah oki thanks :D
06:06:26 <Retro-Hax[m]> also uh can i change my name on my wallet
06:07:12 <Retro-Hax[m]> cuz uh i found my old wallet i created a few year ago uses my irl name and i wanna chnage it
06:09:28 <TrasherDK[m]> Retro-Hax: Your wallets name does not leak. It's not visible to anyone other than you.
06:12:16 <Retro-Hax[m]> oh okay phew
06:12:32 <Retro-Hax[m]> also cakewallet isnt in f-droid it seems or will i have to enable a specific repo?
06:32:03 <kevino[m]> <Retro-Hax[m]> "also cakewallet isnt in f-..." <- you can download apk from its github or website
06:40:15 <kevino[m]>  by nature cakewallet maybe having many non-free dependencies and non-free network services like price api , exhange services , gift cards etc
06:40:16 <Retro-Hax[m]> ah alright
06:40:43 <kevino[m]> thats why it doesn't make sense to list it on fdroid
06:45:59 <DanIsnotthemanBr> i wouldn't say being on fdroid means it legit. just means they sign the repo cause it matches there criteria  
06:46:11 <DanIsnotthemanBr> apk would be sauce of truth really
07:10:17 <stradman> where is the xmrig libera channel ?
07:12:38 <sech1> There is none
07:12:50 <stradman> what are the webminers I have for monero ? other than monero ocean ?
07:40:17 <ofrnxmr[m]> <kevino[m]> "thats why it doesn't make..." <- really no blocker. just cakedoesbt have manpower to set it up
08:37:37 <dANBs[m]> HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: Braxman is based
09:36:26 <kevino[m]> braxman who ?
09:38:50 <k4r4b3y[m]> braxman that shows up regularly on the https://yewtu.be front-page
09:39:03 <k4r4b3y[m]> >he based
09:39:03 <k4r4b3y[m]> has he mentioned XMR recently or something?
10:09:00 <DanIsnotthemanBr> More he would make a coin and shill it
10:09:11 <DanIsnotthemanBr> * More like he would
14:41:24 <r4v3r23[m]> <DanIsnotthemanBr> "And took took two years before a..." <- ok but the sdk is major part of the molly xmr wallet
15:23:12 <r4v3r23[m]> its also extremely beneficial to the android monero wallet ecosystem
15:23:50 <r4v3r23[m]> with monerujo moving to dart, Android is losing its only monero lib
15:41:13 <plowsof11> good points, feedback like that is essential. would be nice to get monerujo wallets devs thoughts on the sdk (waiting for a readme / demo apk and such), will be soon 
15:47:08 <r4v3r23[m]> monerujo is moving to dart in order to go cross platform, there is no reason for them to continue supporting the current android lib
15:49:11 <r4v3r23[m]> valldrac's sdk adds extra security measures and is written in kotlin, which is the preferred android language noe
15:49:22 <r4v3r23[m]> s/noe/today/
15:50:48 <r4v3r23[m]> once monerujo goes iOS, all major mobile wallets will be based on the same framework/language (3 wallets are based on same lib) so an alternative is more essential than ever
15:52:15 <Rucknium[m]> What about pokkst's Mysu wallet?
15:52:43 <r4v3r23[m]> currently based on monerujo's monero lib
15:54:06 <Rucknium[m]> Right. So pokkst would keep developing the android lib. Probably. Maybe someone can ask him.
15:54:39 <Rucknium[m]> And then Stack wallet
15:56:59 <r4v3r23[m]> says who? even if he did, valldracs sdk is a major improvement
15:57:45 <r4v3r23[m]> and stack is based on a fork of cuck's monero dart lib
15:58:34 <Rucknium[m]> I'm not saying that Molly's SDK shouldn't be supported. We need all the information.
16:08:13 <r4v3r23[m]> a modern, secure android sdk could help inspire a new generation of android wallets
16:10:01 <r4v3r23[m]> moneros mobile wallet space is dominated by a few major players, anything to help combat that is a win
16:10:32 <TrasherDK[m]> Normally, Monero code has to pass a rigorous review, before being released into the wild. Did any of these implementations go through the same process, or is it someone doing their own thing?
16:22:57 <ceetee[m]> AFAIK there are no official 3rd party reviews of the code yet
16:23:24 <ceetee[m]> but it doesn't make much sense at an early stage anyway
17:08:48 <Rucknium[m]> luna24: r4v3r23 : Here's my analysis of Mordinals' privacy impact, as promised: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/12kv5m0/empirical_privacy_impact_of_mordinals_monero_nfts/
17:09:51 <luna24[m]> Thank you 🙏
17:10:05 <luna24[m]> I’ll take a gander in a bit, doing stats homework for college lol
17:20:51 <r4v3r23[m]> Rucknium: thanks for this
17:53:28 <cornfeedhobo> Did I just read "monero" and "dart" in the same context? I love everything about this.
17:58:43 <susman1[m]> is monero fucked?
17:59:02 <susman1[m]> I heard what happened with mordinals I thought they were gone
17:59:17 <plowsof11> what happened with them
18:00:32 <susman1[m]> plowsof11: Apparently they are allowed and you can put NFTs on the blockchain now which has impacts on privacy
18:00:38 <susman1[m]> GET RID OF THIS
18:01:29 <cornfeedhobo> i had not heard of this. so they specifically reduce the ring set... that seems... not the best?
18:01:32 <mlcboss[m]> what's the point of NFT but it's private?
18:02:09 <mlcboss[m]> since all of xmr user is anonymous 
18:02:09 <mlcboss[m]> like NFT A will be owned by anon 
18:02:35 <plowsof11> click on the reddit thread and read. theres some pretty graphs too. any confusions ask away
18:03:04 <plowsof11> the mordinals devs increased the tx fee for them to be displayed on their site. theyre dead. no one cares anymore 
18:04:07 <plowsof11> now we even have a new release that will stop them from being mined / broadcast https://www.getmonero.org/2023/04/04/monero-GUI-0.18.2.2-released.html  
18:06:55 <mlcboss[m]> why stopped them using monero blockchain?
18:07:14 <mlcboss[m]> just let them have fun with their stupid NFT 
18:07:29 <mlcboss[m]> they paid a space for a block right so why prevent them?
18:08:36 <plowsof11> an MRL member carried out some serious / time intensive research and posted a reddit thread above. 
18:09:02 <MajesticBank> Rucknium[m]: amazing work man, on point
18:09:09 <plowsof11> probably lost sleep over trying to make it as digestible as possible .... with pretty graphs diagrams 
18:09:36 <plowsof11> the least you could do mlcboss is glance over it
18:18:02 <Rucknium[m]> MajesticBank: Thank you.
18:25:16 <cornfeedhobo> This is a decent write up on reddit. what I think is a bit funny is how intuitive this is and yet they still tried it.
18:26:17 <cornfeedhobo> I'm not a fan of the "they paid for space" argument but i am a fan of real world stress tests. I guess at least this tested the chain.
19:29:59 <r4v3r23[m]> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: answer your DM
19:45:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: mine too
19:46:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> <cornfeedhobo> "I'm not a fan of the "they..." <- this was as much of a stress test as your doctor telling you to walk for 5 minutes
19:46:54 * cornfeedhobo nods
19:48:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> theres nothing stopping a real stress test from being conducted
19:48:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> the "spam" garbage nfts was 1 actor - to say its done is insane
19:48:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> thats just one 12 year old using his moms old laptop
19:48:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> and his birthday money
19:49:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> a dedicated txextra abuser can do much worse than store 1-10kb ai art
19:49:56 <k4r4b3y[m]> hey now you are complaining about free stress-tests..
19:50:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> lmao
19:51:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> just finjshed saying this wasnt a stress test
19:51:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> this was absolute nonchalant 0 effort spam
19:51:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> and by spam, i mean garbage. not quantity
19:51:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> they never once hit top speed, never even broke the speed limit
19:52:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> stress testing the tires by rolling them indoors at 1mph isnt a stress test - utterly useless
19:54:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> nothing they did changed the math
19:54:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> they soread out 1 days worth of spam over a month. thats not a stress test by any metric
19:55:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> and people freaked out at a 1:30 dilution of the potential lol? now nothing has changed and everything is OK because morb devs explorer doesnt show nfts
19:57:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> maybe people actually care abiut NFTs SPECIFICALLY
19:59:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> its not about nfts.
19:59:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> its about the design of monero
20:00:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> if all you have to do is pay some money for txextra, that money should go to node operators
20:00:18 <CidadodoMonerist> Monerun está marcada para dia 18 de abril - Notícias Moneristas #7
20:00:18 <CidadodoMonerist> Monerun é um evento de retirada de monero das corretoras e serve como pressão e protesto
20:00:18 <CidadodoMonerist> https://open.substack.com/pub/moneristas/p/monerun-esta-marcada-para-dia-18?utm_source=direct&r=28k4lu&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
20:00:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> might as well juse be zano and be POS at that point 
20:00:36 <CidadodoMonerist> Check out my portuguese monero news channel
20:01:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> tweet it
20:16:39 <CidadodoMonerist> https://twitter.com/NoticiasMonero/status/1646601473516621835?t=GALCBz7yp-OEqRCnGS8SOA&s=19
20:25:31 <plowsof11> r4v3r23 matrix decryption errors and/or slow internet, usually it fixes itself soon enough, please bare with me during these turbulent times 
20:44:29 <DanIsnotthemanBr> <r4v3r23[m]> "ok but the sdk is major part..." <- Thats fine, but why make a proposal for some then not even do and then do something else and then ask for more money and also say nothing for 1 1/2yrs.  Normally this would ring bells like a scam.
20:44:42 <DanIsnotthemanBr> s/some/something/
20:45:27 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Thats my issue
20:45:55 <plowsof11> he could have used monerujos sdk and claimed the milestones and not gave a F about the security issues 
20:46:08 <plowsof11> better scam, he would get paid in full then
20:46:28 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Should of said early on this is alot, i want to amend the proposal or close it and do another one
20:46:33 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Optics look bad
20:48:01 <plowsof11> i didnt like the  2~ year going awol so i started asking him for udpates and got them recently 
20:48:39 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Yeeep
20:48:43 <plowsof11> we focused on 3 problem ccs' 
20:48:50 <plowsof11> solopt,animated videos,and molly
20:49:06 <r4v3r23[m]> DanIsnotthemanBr: 80% of a new monero lib isn't a scam
20:49:12 <DanIsnotthemanBr> And then actually do something recently and then ask for more money
20:50:03 <DanIsnotthemanBr> If you look at the events its how a ponzi scheme is ran
20:50:15 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Not saying hes dodgy
20:51:22 <DanIsnotthemanBr> r4v3r23[m]: Not saying hes scamming, saying the bs that took over 1yr to get a response or movement
20:51:25 <r4v3r23[m]> a ponzi that delivers? 
20:51:35 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Delivers on what
20:51:39 <DanIsnotthemanBr> The proposal was server
20:51:58 <r4v3r23[m]> right, the sdk is a step towards that
20:52:12 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Say you sign a contract to do something and then you do something completely different thats breach of contrsct
20:52:15 <r4v3r23[m]> its not like the molly ccs is getting paid out yet
20:52:24 <DanIsnotthemanBr> s/contrsct/contract/
20:52:42 <ceetee[m]> exactly
20:52:44 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Line needs to be drawn
20:53:14 <ceetee[m]> well the work he did did not really fit the first CCS
20:53:27 <ceetee[m]> So he should do a new one for the work on the wallet
20:53:48 <plowsof11> an oversight - he made the mistake of assuming that the monero wallet ecosystem had its shit together
20:54:02 <DanIsnotthemanBr> This is the way
20:54:13 <ceetee[m]> If he's 80% done, he could cash out the new proposal before finally getting to work on the old one
20:54:21 <plowsof11> sometimes hiding the problem... and tyring your best to get it done 'tomorrow' turns into 2 years 
20:54:41 <DanIsnotthemanBr> If your up front thats fine
20:54:46 <plowsof11> whilst still maintaining a messaging app  which afaik had another release a few days ago
20:54:52 <ceetee[m]> * new proposal sonn before finally
20:55:14 <plowsof11> we got the full honest disclosure 
20:55:22 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Not pushing the issue down the hill until now
20:55:27 <plowsof11> can the ccs pay for work done? nope 
20:55:41 <plowsof11> work already done outside of an open ccs*
20:55:50 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Whats the payout until now?
20:56:00 <plowsof11> zero , are you happy now 
20:56:04 <plowsof11> nothing
20:56:35 <plowsof11> no milestones are achieved so nada 
20:56:43 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Close and make a new one
20:57:14 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Cant make a milestone payment if you Havn’t reached one
20:57:34 <plowsof11> the wallet sdk would ideally be a new ccs , seperate from the molly one 
20:57:41 <ceetee[m]> Is the work done good in quality? Did you ask other devs for their opinions? plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: 
20:58:58 <plowsof11> i want to ask monerujo for input but valldrac is going to get some things ready for the github repo e.g. it has no readme so im asking alot just linking it and saying 'what ya think'
20:58:58 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Honestly if i was him i would stop and make a new one and let the devs evaluate the current work on sdk
20:59:45 <plowsof11> agreed^ we need the input from the people using android libs right now, such as anonero / and mysu. and also even better, the 1 man army m2049r 
20:59:47 <DanIsnotthemanBr> If they say yeah good right direction then we sweep molly under rug and look at new proposal with expirey date on proposal
21:01:59 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Then plowsof can remove it off the problem list
21:03:33 <plowsof11> going back to the problem list : solopt,animated videos,molly : animated videos are done - we're waiting for someone to come to the table and ask about taking it over or repurposing the funds to make a video that will benefit the monero project ehh ok. solopt? what can i say 
21:04:08 <plowsof11> molly: outperforming the 2 others^
21:05:38 <plowsof11> #mollyim:matrix.org is their matrix channel if interested 
21:09:24 <plowsof11> i just ate, then had desert so im a bit sleepy to be giving motivational speeches to get us all pumped, but this ship is moving forward , however slowly 
21:13:38 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Solopt had an expiry 31 oct 2022.
21:14:14 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Seems like there is a breakup between them too?
21:15:56 <plowsof11> definitely , endor seems independent now (but open to collaboration) 
21:16:34 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Sounded like ball and chain scenario
21:16:44 <DanIsnotthemanBr> One was pulling the other along
21:29:11 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/12kv5m0/empirical_privacy_impact_of_mordinals_monero_nfts/
21:33:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> not sure how many times i said itv but solopt has been fucked since it was"settled" incorrectly
21:33:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> now you can only sit back and get what you paid for
21:35:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> if you PAID the projrct manager IN FULL t( leave before completing the project, after he disrespected his "employees", youd have to be absolutely insane to EXPECT said employee to finish the job of the guy who started it and promised he would stick around til kt fin*shes
21:36:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> literally paid a bully to be a bully and fed endor to him
21:36:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> now want to expect endor to finish mjs job
21:36:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> and yes, the entire ccs ks mjs job
21:37:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> dont remember? endors milestones are optional
21:37:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> solopt is fully functional and hence mj can be paid in full
21:38:08 <DanIsnotthemanBr> How much has been paid?
21:38:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> whatevee mj had expected from day 1
21:38:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> endor hasnt been paid in full
21:39:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> mjs been paid well over 350 xmr to do bullshit work and sell himself to reddit
21:40:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> his last dev ccs was 130(?) and had him billing for "
21:40:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> `s/github/GitHub`
21:41:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> and reviewing prs such as 7760, where he literally just spammed 
21:41:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> 13hrs or so just counting hours
21:42:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> 10 hours setting up his dev environment (everytime?)
21:42:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> meeting attendance. guy did a whole lot of nothinf and got paid in full every single time
21:43:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> still out here talking about how hes going to sue abc and xyz if he doesnt get paid for his magic proposal
21:43:11 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Oh i remember that
21:43:19 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Doing a timesheet 13hrs
21:44:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> so ye. dumping it on endor is fucking stupid
21:44:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> you paid mj to pull that shit. dont act surprised
21:45:41 <DanIsnotthemanBr> That was under previous government
21:45:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> it wasnt lolo
21:46:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> thats why i was mad
21:46:04 <DanIsnotthemanBr> I like when they say that
21:46:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> it happened right before our eyes
21:46:40 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Previous administration
21:47:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> the issues i brought up 100x are the same shit i hear people complaoning about now
21:47:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> but back then i was being accused of sttacking mj for some unrelated reasond ( yeah fkn right)
21:48:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> so "we wont punish for things unrelated to ccs" kept coming up
21:49:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> here we are, wondering why mjs ccs is AWOL.
21:49:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> hint: he got paid to leave it unfinished 
21:50:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> anyway. put the animated videos funds along with the 242 from the yacht fund
21:50:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> the end
21:50:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> some things really are that simple
21:52:59 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Stuck in limbo then
21:53:16 <DanIsnotthemanBr> We push it down the hill till next government
21:53:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> any controversies surrounding simple math are obviously people hoping to mislead or misdirect.
21:53:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> i dont care about mj, or i guess today its majestic - but i wont be manipulated or mislead.
21:53:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> yeah
21:53:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> its one of those things like, its still mjs prohect. 
21:53:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> would YOU want to finish it for him?
21:54:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> he already got paid? and tried to take your money too? 
21:54:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> i know what im doing. probably nothing
21:55:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> why would i be motivated to allow mj to steal my lunch one more time by finishing his project 
21:55:42 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Rucknium anaylsis of the morbs issue is good, explained well.
21:55:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> it is
21:56:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> i want to comment on each point
21:56:12 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Noob friendly
21:56:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> as ive had extensive conversations around each and plenty of ...justificstions of nullifications for the drawbacka
21:58:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> black marbles 
21:59:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> there are only a handful of metrics known to the public that can create them
21:59:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> size of tx (txextra) and number of inputs or outputs being two obvious ones
22:03:00 <DanIsnotthemanBr> So the current update basically makes updated nodes a filter for tx_extra? Cause they wont forward transaction with tx_extra above 1060
22:03:44 <DanIsnotthemanBr> ?
22:03:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> right
22:04:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> but, they will be transmit repeatedly until they dk get broadcast or mined
22:04:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> so.. lets assume everyong except for morbinals and hashvault updated
22:05:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> all morbs needs to do is send the big txextra to hashvaults rpc, or add hashvault as a priority node
22:06:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> any non-standard txextra or in/out count = black marble
22:06:20 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Yeah to enforce it needs a hardfork
22:06:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> 1060 enforced doesnt fix rhe fungibikity issue
22:06:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> just makes kit harder to prevent what was never done - hq images
22:07:05 <DanIsnotthemanBr> No just limits it
22:07:53 <DanIsnotthemanBr> What about wallets using standard decoys as its mentioned in article
22:07:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> the limit doesnt stop me from adding 2.4kb 1/2 tx on the chain
22:08:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> DanIsnotthemanBr: at that point were trearing txextra like coinbase > an essential part of the protocol
22:08:41 <DanIsnotthemanBr> True
22:09:24 <DanIsnotthemanBr> I think its just mitigating until a decision is made
22:10:24 <fr33_yourself[m]> of, what is your proposed action?
22:10:51 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Do we know what is the legitimate data that is been put in tx_extra?
22:11:05 <DanIsnotthemanBr> I know mining stuff
22:11:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> almost identical to rucks
22:12:11 <DanIsnotthemanBr> And serai
22:12:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> subaddresses, pubkeys
22:12:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> nah
22:12:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> mining is being used only on coinbase afaik atm
22:13:09 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Oh k
22:13:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> and coinbase would keep txextra
22:13:46 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Unless you make specific fields?
22:13:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> nothing wrong with non fungible tx being non fungible 
22:14:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> DanIsnotthemanBr: for subaddress and pubkeys, yes, its necessary 
22:15:16 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Making fields for them or having tx_extra?
22:15:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> the required minimum size limit of txextra  has to accommodate 32bytes oer output, about 500bytes iirc
22:15:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> so youll always have more space while pissing in the 1/2 pool than you will if you use >2 outs
22:16:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> DanIsnotthemanBr: should make fields
22:16:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> pub keys have been there since day 1 iirc, and subaddresses were added there because they werent added in a HF
22:16:59 <Rucknium[m]> Dan (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate): Thanks
22:19:42 <Rucknium[m]> ofrnxmr: The research computing server is gathering data on inputs/outputs vounts of ring members. And now Mordinal transfer transactions, too.
22:20:23 <DanIsnotthemanBr> I suppose if you can see pub keys you could correlate transactions too one entity too
22:22:46 <DanIsnotthemanBr> What you can do with it is a diff story
22:28:57 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero Issue 166: March 31 - April 13, 2023. https://revuo-xmr.com/issue-166.html
22:37:25 <luna24[m]> <Rucknium[m]> "luna24: r4v3r23 : Here's my..." <- Fire read homie, I didn’t even know about mordinals until reading that, 
23:42:18 <cornfeedhobo> ofrnxmr[m]: potato potato