00:09:35 * charuto is on the case
00:16:22 <charuto> seems fixed
03:39:28 <cryptogrampy[m]> vtnerd:  https://github.com/CryptoGrampy/monero-lws-admin 😄
05:17:10 <TrasherDK[m]> cryptogrampy: I'd love to try your latest creation, but as usual, getting all the ducks lined up, is a challenge.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/d899f1a76ccb36a9d1b729968c5d7aeebd770847>)
05:21:15 <TrasherDK[m]> I should probably tag vtnerd on this one.
05:22:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> nono
05:23:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> Every time you write v t n e r d, you ping him 
05:23:32 <TrasherDK[m]> That was the point.
05:23:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> The fix is easy
05:23:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> The folder is incorrect 
05:24:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> It looks fir linux/rekease instead of linux/version/rekease or something (like you, its been a while)
05:25:01 <TrasherDK[m]> So I should use $( realpath "../../monero" ) ?
05:25:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> yes sir i believe so
05:25:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> either that or move the actual folder to where it expects 
05:28:25 <TrasherDK[m]> That was the one:
05:28:25 <TrasherDK[m]> ```
05:28:25 <TrasherDK[m]> monero-lws/build$ cmake -DMONERO_SOURCE_DIR="$(realpath ../../monero)" -DMONERO_BUILD_DIR="$(realpath ../../monero/build)" ..
05:28:25 <TrasherDK[m]> ```
05:29:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> Working?
05:29:55 <TrasherDK[m]> Building
05:40:14 <TrasherDK[m]> As no version information is available, I have no clue if I actually got the latest version.
05:40:14 <TrasherDK[m]> And while building, upstream got a commit 🤣
05:40:14 <TrasherDK[m]> `Your branch is behind 'upstream/release-v0.2_0.18' by 1 commit, and can be fast-forwarded.`
05:42:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> > <@trasherdk:monero.social> That was the one:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/6b5ddf86dc577decd4d7349637a99352037daa12>)
05:48:20 <TrasherDK[m]> ofrnxmr: Right after you push the `--config-file` PR 😎
05:49:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hehe
05:49:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero Website  << sissies being sissies
05:50:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Erc is the biggest pos around here 
05:52:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> whoops. Should me in off topic
06:55:50 <k4r4b3y[m]> https://nitter.snopyta.org/jeromepozell/status/1648751947841695752#m
06:55:52 <k4r4b3y[m]> Happy bday to monero
07:18:01 <ccilvmlmanyphwc> Hi
07:19:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Greetings
07:20:00 <dANBs[m]> iptwqvhclh[xmpp]: Hi
07:20:28 <ccilvmlmanyphwc> Oh, so dANBs is a bridge between irc and xmpp
07:49:33 <john456> hello
07:50:21 <john456> is there a monero javascript dedicated channel ?
07:52:11 <sech1> 1) no 2) what do you want to do with monero using js?
07:57:32 <ccilvmlmanyphwc> ocb
07:59:23 <john456> well I wanted to complain about the documentation
08:00:08 <john456> I want to migrate from an old version and there is nothing about exception handling and I have noticed that things changed
08:00:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> <john456> "is there a monero javascript..." <- Monero Community Dev  
08:01:07 <john456> I have noticed for example that things changed with createTx() method with relay = true
08:01:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not dedicated but ask there and be patient 
08:01:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> You can* ask there
08:01:36 <john456> ok I will
08:02:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Also leave details so when someone does see thr message they can answer you without waiting
08:11:03 <lza_menace> #monero-community-dev
08:13:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Thanks. Matrix is buggy and changed my link to just the title
08:13:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> Element* is buggy
09:08:58 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Clear cache
11:27:50 <john456> how is it possible to make sure with monero that outgoing payment has not already been made? I mean if you have to send multiple time same amount to same user address. paymentId is obsolete
11:29:03 <_DOOM_> I keep getting the "No incoming connections" warning for port 18080. But my firewall allows for 18080 and I have upnp enabled on my router. Shouldn't it forward map port automatically?
11:29:15 <_DOOM_> On monerod to be exact
11:31:11 <plowsof11> post config on https://paste.debian.net/ if its hughmungus. you may not have bound to all interfaces 0.0.0.0 
11:32:05 <_DOOM_> https://paste.debian.net/1277912/
11:32:36 <_DOOM_> p2p binds to 0.0.0.0 automatically
11:32:47 <_DOOM_> If I'm reading the --help message correctly
11:33:54 <plowsof11> ah correct, you're right. thanks hm
11:34:48 <_DOOM_> Why isn't it finding peers then?
11:35:34 <plowsof11> have you tried without the add priority node lines? 
11:35:55 <_DOOM_> I imagine it wouldn't hurt.
11:36:02 <john456> is there a way to make difference between transactions that are sent to the same address?
11:37:35 <plowsof11> each transaction has a txid and a block number (like a timestamp) so you can see them in your transaction history (is that what you're after?)
11:38:33 <_DOOM_> The node appears to be reaching out peers bbased on logs.
11:39:17 <plowsof11> whats your monerod --version 
11:39:34 <_DOOM_> Flourine Fermi 0.18.2.2
11:45:27 <john456> plowof11 my problem is I only have txid after transaction creation
11:51:52 <plowsof11> DOOM im either missing something glaringly obvious in your config or half awake.
11:52:14 <plowsof11> what are you actually trying to do john456, maybe easier to start there. you want to prove you sent / received monero?
11:54:12 <_DOOM_> plowsof11: I'm not seeing the error anymore if that proves anything. I'm going leave it for a bit and check it later. If I see it again I'll change the log level.
11:55:49 <john456> if I have an user with an xmr address, if I have to check if he has already been paid, I can just look for outgoing txs with his address, my problem is I can be sending multiple time same to the same address so if I use this method it will not work for the second payment
11:57:27 <selsta> _DOOM_: did you try to use something like https://portchecker.co ?
11:57:34 <selsta> with your IP and 18080
11:57:53 <_DOOM_> I did it says it's closed
11:58:23 <_DOOM_> I guess that returns me to my original question shouldn't monerod port map with upnp?
11:58:32 <sech1> john456 use new subaddress for each payment
11:59:08 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Is there firewall on monerod server/pc
11:59:10 <sech1> or if you have to send to the same address, keep separate notes what you paid for each time
11:59:26 <_DOOM_> DanIsnotthemanBr: Yes, but the required ports are open.
11:59:44 <john456> sech1 what do you mean? I cannot generate subaddress, users address are the one they gave to me
11:59:57 <DanIsnotthemanBr> So router and pc?
12:00:03 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Open
12:00:31 <_DOOM_> I guess the router isn't. portchecker.co says 18080 is closed.
12:00:45 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Whats the router
12:00:52 <_DOOM_> Just a linksys
12:01:27 <john456> I am looking for a way to be sure to not create multiple txs for same event
12:02:10 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Wrt or linksys os ?
12:02:19 <sech1> then you need to keep a separate database with your events and payments
12:02:33 <_DOOM_> Router
12:03:50 <_DOOM_> Wait, if my node isn't public. Like with --public-node would I have to worry about p2p connections?
12:05:33 <john456> sech1 well but an excption could happen in the createTx method but the tx has really been created so my plane with paymentId was to search for a paymentId before creating tx
12:06:32 <john456> sech1 do you have any idea about normal workflow ?
12:07:17 <selsta> _DOOM_: --public-node is for RPC and unrelated to p2p
12:07:37 <_DOOM_> Okay
12:08:13 <john456> sech1 for you it is not possible to get exception with createTx() method when the transaction was created?
12:12:55 <plowsof11> john456 it seem you are getting help in community-dev now
12:18:14 <_DOOM_> I've changed the igd option to enable instead of delayed. I'm thinking the warnings I saw were a fluke? Or a result of igd being delayed.
12:18:26 <_DOOM_> I'm not seeing the warning anymore.
12:20:52 <_DOOM_> I will check later.
12:23:03 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Have you checked if its listening on the ports ?
12:23:12 <_DOOM_> Good idea
12:23:22 <_DOOM_> Closed
12:23:44 <_DOOM_> But I upnp doesn't guaratee that it will open 18080 does it?
12:24:28 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Nope
12:24:44 <_DOOM_> Do peers know this?
12:25:04 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Portforward is the best, but if its not listening on the port on monerod server thats the first issue
12:25:23 <_DOOM_> Ok
12:25:45 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://sethforprivacy.com/guides/run-a-monero-node/
12:25:45 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Maybe look at 👺guide
12:26:38 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Plowsof dont hurt me for saying name
13:04:21 <plowsof> lol
13:05:35 <DataHoarder> fun enough that domain DanIsnotthemanBr has broken onion site where it redirects to https from http, but the certificate is expired :D
21:51:27 <magmagik[m]> Hello monero people
21:51:37 <magmagik[m]> I have a question, i was trying to find news, updates and roadmap where monero is heading 
21:58:05 <selsta> magmagik[m]: the official website has a blog section where releases and sometimes larger changes are announced
21:58:14 <selsta> then there's also for example https://monero.observer
22:00:13 <magmagik[m]> Thank you, the roadmap ended at 2022 for now there is no 2023 ?
22:00:21 <magmagik[m]> Just the future ?
22:02:08 <selsta> the roadmap only gets updated once in a while
22:03:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> what were you hoping to see on a roadmap? 
22:03:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero already does most of what we plan to do - private transactions
22:05:32 <ofrnxmr[m]> enhancements dont always make it onto a roadmap, because we implement stuff as soon as its ready
22:06:21 <magmagik[m]> No no, it's okay, i am just searching for information and want to learn 
22:06:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Prs and issues on github for monero and mrl may give hints towards future endeavors 
22:10:10 <magmagik[m]> is there an article or something similar about private transactions ?
22:11:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> What would you like to know? 
22:11:41 <ofrnxmr[m]> mastering monero > less technical
22:11:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Zero to monero 2 > more math 
22:12:24 <magmagik[m]> what kind of "system" monero will use for private transactions ?
22:12:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero is private transactions 
22:12:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Is the system*
22:12:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> We dont do anything else 
22:13:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> * Is a system for*
22:15:30 <magmagik[m]> Monero is PoW if i remember right, yes ?
22:15:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> yes
22:16:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Uses randomx mining algo, cpu preferred, gpu crippled, no asic
22:16:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> No dev tax, no premine
22:17:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mining software us fully open source
22:17:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> s/us/is/
22:17:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> (unlike most other coinminers)
22:17:55 <magmagik[m]> Sounds nice
22:18:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> Community ran and developed 
22:18:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> We dont have a vitalik, satoshi etc
22:19:15 <magmagik[m]> Yeah you don't have "boss" 
22:19:40 <magmagik[m]> And it's sounds amazing because a lot of people have great ideas
22:19:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or a... dictator
22:20:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> "we'll never firk because fluffypony said no" >> not in monero
22:21:59 <magmagik[m]> Oh and monero have masternode and staking 
22:22:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> No we dont 
22:22:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Unless youd like me to be your master and hold your neros 
22:23:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> seriously. No staking or other nonsense
22:24:00 <magmagik[m]> I am on monerohow site checking 
22:24:17 <magmagik[m]> oh nevermind it was in 2018
22:24:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> checking what? Old site 
22:24:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> magmagik[m]: And still no masternodes 
22:24:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> Still no staking 
22:25:10 <magmagik[m]> Yes, i want to find a new site with info like that and more
22:26:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> a lot of bad info
22:26:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> On that site
22:26:53 <magmagik[m]> Oh, i will close it than
22:27:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> Better to not read confusing misinformation.
22:27:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> running a node us a 2 step process 
22:27:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Somesites make it seem like rocket science 
22:27:55 <magmagik[m]> Is there a site with updated information like on that monerohow site ?
22:28:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Privacy on monero is as easy as sending a transaction. You dont need some special wallet or apainful experience
22:28:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> magmagik[m]: updated info on master nodes? No
22:28:30 <ofrnxmr[m]> Of course not
22:28:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Sethforprivacy.com has some guides
22:29:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Anything else is simple 
22:29:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> The guides will be with the tools 
22:29:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> And the tools arent needed 
22:30:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> (you dont need a dojo and a samourai to and ln)
22:30:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> You just need a wallet. 
22:30:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> walket instructions are with the walket 
22:30:31 <magmagik[m]> Im sorry for stupid question but how does privacy transaction works in monero ?
22:30:50 <magmagik[m]> Im sorry English is not my first language 
22:32:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> monero uses a number of different features to protect financial privacy. 
22:32:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> 1) Stealth addresses
22:32:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> addresses on chain are 1-time "fake" addresses. They can not be correlated to the real wallet addresses
22:33:27 <magmagik[m]> Where i can read more about that, it's hard to find real info and i don't want to learn fake stuff
22:33:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> 2 - hidden amounts. Amounts are only visible to the sender and reciever a d are proven using zero knowkedge proofs
22:33:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> magmagik[m]: Mastering monero 
22:33:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> And zero to monero 2
22:34:13 <magmagik[m]> oh ZK
22:34:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> 3 - ring signatures
22:34:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> magmagik[m]: No. We use zk and more 
22:37:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> SGP did a series on youtube (transcribed to text as well) on privacy pitfalls in monero
22:37:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> its called: Breaking Monero
22:39:26 <magmagik[m]> Thank you
22:40:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> also 3 hrs of talk with seth (btcxmr) and giacomo(btconly) on monerotalk 
22:43:10 <magmagik[m]> I saw Daemon can run monero ?
22:44:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> can you say that in different words?
22:45:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> Technically 
22:45:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> The monero daemon = monerod = the monero node = the monero blockchain.
22:45:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> all different ways of saying the same thing.
22:45:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> so daemon doesnt run monero, monero is a daemon 
22:47:13 <magmagik[m]> i understand, thank you
22:50:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> Getmonero.org/downloads
22:50:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> both GUI and CLI wallet downloads include the full suite of monero tools, including the daemon 
22:52:12 <magmagik[m]> How does transaction fee is calculated ?
22:54:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Rocket scientist math
22:55:44 <ofrnxmr[m]> Based on many factors. There is a minimum, and also it scales dynamically with block size growth and mining reward decreases
22:56:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> magmagik[m]: Far too many qyestions 
22:56:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Go read 2 books and watch 5 hrs of video
22:56:20 <magmagik[m]> Sorry
22:56:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Then you wont have to ask
22:56:39 <magmagik[m]> Still Thank you for your time
22:57:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: No problem. but seriously - need to start with that stuff if you really want to understand quickly
22:58:48 <magmagik[m]> Ok, thank you
23:18:10 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero Issue 167: April 13 - 20, 2023. https://revuo-xmr.com/issue-167.html