03:37:35 <Tuxedo> hello
03:38:18 <Tuxedo> everyone
03:39:40 <TrasherDK[m]> Wassup?
07:20:59 <exist[m]> drunk exist says
07:21:01 <exist[m]> monero the best
07:25:56 <sech1> still true even if not drunk
12:25:57 <unknownbeing[m]> Hi
12:27:08 <unknownbeing[m]> What does it mean when I try to sync with monerod and it quits with the message "Invalid DNSSEC TXT record signature for updates.moneropulse.org..."?
12:40:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> It quit due to that message?
12:41:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Run monerod again with --check-updates=disabled
12:42:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> that error should not crash monerod. But its the second report im hearing this week- weird
13:11:44 <unknownbeing[m]> Maybe that error wasn't the culprit then
13:12:02 <unknownbeing[m]> I tried that flag, but it still quit
13:12:41 <unknownbeing[m]> I get "zsh: bus error (core dumped)"
13:38:11 <unknownbeing[m]> I tried updating monero, but it didn't help
14:12:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> What os and terminal emulator are you using 
14:39:40 <selsta> unknownbeing[m]: where did you store the blockchain? external hdd?
15:12:55 <dANBs[m]> kittypity[xmpp]: > What does it mean when I try to sync with monerod and it quits with the message "Invalid DNSSEC TXT record signature for updates.moneropulse.org..."?
15:12:55 <dANBs[m]> dANBs: something's wrong with private DNS either on your side or moneropulse.org site
15:48:39 <mlcboss[m]> is Zcash safe , i wanted to send Zcash in exchange for monero 
15:48:39 <mlcboss[m]> so , Mobile Payment > Exchange > Zcash > Monero 
15:49:33 <mlcboss[m]> my exchange only have Zcash but no Monero 
15:49:33 <mlcboss[m]> my old exchange has stop selling monero 
15:52:47 <ceetee[m]> trocador.app supports both XMR and ZCASH
16:40:03 <cockliuser[m]> mlcboss: get a better exchange 
16:59:11 <mlcboss[m]> <cockliuser[m]> "mlcboss: get a better exchange..." <- international exchanges is blocked , you even need a vpn to access it 
16:59:17 <mlcboss[m]> gov do this cause taxes 🤑
18:11:33 <RavFX[m]> Then use VPN :)
18:11:59 <RavFX[m]> UK or Australia?
20:09:41 <charuto> high chances it's a DNS block
20:10:22 <charuto> also most likely you'll find exchanges that aren't blocked
23:42:22 <nightowl050[m]> anyone here?
23:48:24 <RavFX> maybe
23:49:52 <mlcboss[m]> <RavFX[m]> "Then use VPN :)" <- i use international cex for trade , i buy crypto in local than transfer to it like most people in place
23:49:52 <mlcboss[m]> since it wouldn't require any KYC , they have more options & features compared whaf we have
23:50:16 <mlcboss[m]> <charuto> "also most likely you'll find..." <- probably small random exchanges
23:51:11 <mlcboss[m]> so i just buy Zcash (since it available in my local exchange) and withdraw it to swap for monero 
23:51:33 <mlcboss[m]> Zcash is another privacy coin just not that popular 
23:51:58 <RavFX[m]> But you can't get it privately from exchange, it's as transparent as bitcoin (exceit if you buy it at Gemini)
23:52:58 <RavFX> So at that point if it's just to buy then tx to another exchange to get the real thing, get thet one that have the lowest withdraw fee or something
23:53:24 <mlcboss[m]> RavFX[m]: Zcash has zero proof encryption
23:53:33 <RavFX> Not if you send it to a T address
23:53:48 <RavFX> all exchange can only send and receive T address (except Gemini)
23:53:56 <RavFX> meaning, it's totally transparent
23:54:20 <mlcboss[m]> RavFX: but it's encrypted?
23:54:28 <RavFX> nop, only if you send to a Z address
23:55:06 <RavFX[m]> 99% of exchange support only T address
23:55:06 <mlcboss[m]> then what's is the purpose of t address?
23:55:06 <RavFX[m]> most wallet support only T address
23:55:20 <nightowl050[m]> anyone here an expert at cutting off trace for cryptocurrencies?
23:55:22 <RavFX[m]> purpose is to make the coin garbage because privacy feature won't get supported
23:55:27 <chesterfield[m]> I swap every Monero tx through Zcash for privacy
23:55:27 <chesterfield[m]> It’s like Monero with privacy
23:55:39 <mlcboss[m]> nightowl050[m]: use privacy coin , popular one is monero
23:55:49 <nightowl050[m]> yeah but its much complicated than just that right
23:55:52 <nightowl050[m]> at least from what I understood
23:56:01 <mlcboss[m]> nightowl050[m]: no
23:56:16 <mlcboss[m]> just get an xmr wallet 
23:56:22 <RavFX[m]> Piratechain is zcash but without Transparent support. But almost no exchange support them
23:56:23 <nightowl050[m]> I heard terms like churning, using I2P instead of TOR
23:56:39 <cockliuser[m]> Piratechain also has a massive premine 
23:56:42 <mlcboss[m]> do not transfer monero from cex to your destination
23:56:42 <mlcboss[m]> always send to wallet first
23:56:59 <nightowl050[m]> thats the churning right?
23:57:01 <RavFX[m]> You can churn from same wallet
23:57:09 <RavFX[m]> if you have a wallet that have coin control
23:57:18 <nightowl050[m]> yeah exaclty RavFX 
23:57:18 <RavFX[m]> you don't need to use different wallet.
23:57:26 <nightowl050[m]> much easier that way aswell
23:57:37 <RavFX[m]> less wallets to manage indeed
23:57:47 <nightowl050[m]> but there is something we're missing here
23:58:02 <nightowl050[m]> https://youtu.be/0SSzx93vAjI
23:58:05 <nightowl050[m]> someone sent me this video today
23:58:15 <nightowl050[m]> the guy starts off with saying "monero is traceable"
23:58:28 <merope> Churning only helps if done right, otherwise you risk attracting more attention to your transactions
23:58:32 <nightowl050[m]> and he is some sort of "knowledgeable" guy in this community from what other group chats have told me
23:58:47 <nightowl050[m]> @endor00 so what is the best practice for properly churning
23:58:54 <mlcboss[m]> if i send to Zcash ZWallet will my transaction be encrypted?
23:59:17 <cockliuser[m]> nightowl050: He also says that anything can be traced
23:59:21 <RavFX[m]> nightowl050[m]: Except that he work now for bitcoin wallets so might be biased.
23:59:21 <RavFX[m]> But there is some traceability with monero, mostly EAE kind of attack
23:59:53 <merope> And using tor/i2p only hides your ip when relaying your transactions to other nodes, but does nothing to the data written on chain