00:13:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://nitter.net/nahuhhXMR/status/1656021265843462166
00:14:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> speaking of top 10
00:25:25 <Alex|LocalMonero> <ofrnxmr[m]> "https://nitter.net/nahuhhXMR/..." <- kek @ "stablecoins no use case in real life"
00:25:46 <Alex|LocalMonero> USDT is basically Argentina's legal tender at this point.
00:48:05 <bridgerton[m]> <morato> based
01:06:27 <Kadar[m]> !!! Enjoy the most profitable financial market (crypto market ) as you get 100% profit...and you can also make up to $100k or more in 3days send me a private message and ask me HOW
01:06:51 <bridgerton[m]> <morato> sus
01:14:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> sgp: 
01:23:52 <BusyBoredom[m]> > does someone invest in other things than crypto/monero and still trust in the legacy system?
01:23:52 <BusyBoredom[m]> Monero is digital cash, it's not like a business that provides goods/services. IMO you should use Monero as cash like it was designed for, and investments should limited to entities that actually turn profits by selling things. 
01:23:52 <BusyBoredom[m]> Monero won't go to the office every Monday to make money for you, but every company in the S&P 500 will. 
03:27:42 <apotheon> side-trips[m]: If you want to try "investing" in BTC, go for it, I guess.  Don't gamble more than you can afford to lose.  I'd treat Monero as money, because that's what it's meant to be -- once true of BTC, but maybe not at this point.
03:40:27 <gonbatfire[m]> Has anyone bought a prepaid mastercard on CakePay today?
03:40:58 <gonbatfire[m]> I bought mine like 12 hours ago and I'm still not receiving the email
03:41:14 <gonbatfire[m]> I kinda need it to pay for my airbnb rn lol
04:47:25 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Maybe try support or mr vik
05:00:25 <side-trips[m]> Even cash isn't "just cash" anymore though, right? I just mean the situation seems a bit more complicated--things are geographically specific(gov mandated?), but veritably interconnected as well. Isn't this "xmr is just cash functioning as cash" a little tough to chew on for some? Maybe I should research the history of cash? Would it be wrong to call xmr superior (private-er)cash? Anti-cash would be incorrect? 
05:24:25 <BusyBoredom[m]> Yeah monero is superior to credit cards and paper moner too in a lot of ways, but all of its advantages are focused on making it a great currency. 
05:24:25 <BusyBoredom[m]> Monero makes no attempt at all to be a good investment. It won't pay out dividends to shareholders or buy back its own shares to pump price up. It doesn't even have any revenue to distribute in the first place. It's just a currency.
05:24:25 <BusyBoredom[m]> If you want an investment, you should buy shares of profitable ventures. Stuffing cash (or monero) under your mattress is not a strong "investment" strategy in my opinion.
05:29:18 <BusyBoredom[m]> Paper money*
06:21:13 <modul8[m]> > <@busyboredom:monero.social> Yeah monero is superior to credit cards and paper moner too in a lot of ways, but all of its advantages are focused on making it a great currency.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/f20c140a171a6f206a00d543437a701731fe88f7>)
06:22:29 <modul8[m]> Bad management...sovereign risk, price of comodity..all has fucked me. Everyone wants privacy..
06:24:06 <modul8[m]> *went from 50 to 500
06:37:55 <k4r4b3y[m]> All these "monero is not an investment" posts ignore that as monero's usage grows its demand should increase too. Thus the same monero will have more purchasing power.
06:38:36 <k4r4b3y[m]> Yes monero might not be a "company stock" but it is an asset that is going through monetization, and in these cases, people who move early can get big returns.
06:39:39 <k4r4b3y[m]> Monero can be used as a store of value, in this regard. And it should be. We shouldn't let go of one of the pillars of being money (unit of account, medium of exchange, store of value).
06:44:14 <modul8[m]> Bitcoin is a liability.
10:33:10 <jollyboy[m]> (newbie) Im looking swap LTC to XMR - I installed Atomic Wallet on Linux - If I succeed in this, is it s a good idea to leave XMR in Atomic Wallet, or should I use the official Monero Wallet?
10:33:28 <jollyboy[m]> s/Wallet/GUI/
10:35:01 <jollyboy[m]> k4r4b3y: reason? should I exchange within Atomic Wallet, and then send to Monero GUI?
11:12:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> atomic wallet? how do ppp go looking for a wallet, then settle on some unknown, not recommended by anybody, wallet
11:12:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> stackwallet
11:12:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> cakewallet
11:12:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> featherwallet
11:12:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> monero gui
11:19:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> jet wallet
11:39:03 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Does say use on mainnet at own risk
11:39:03 <duckman[m]> hey
11:39:16 <duckman[m]> is it safe to share my TX key?
11:44:35 <duckman[m]> ??
11:45:17 <duckman[m]> what happend
11:45:42 <duckman[m]> ?
11:45:43 <duckman[m]> the room got nuked?
11:47:13 <duckman[m]> ?
11:47:20 <duckman[m]> hello?
11:47:52 <Rucknium[m]> duck man: Maintenance is being performed on the Matrix-Libera IRC bridge.
11:48:14 <duckman[m]> Rucknium[m]: how do you know that?
11:48:20 <Rucknium[m]> https://mastodon.matrix.org/@matrix/110339450412866178
11:48:29 <Rucknium[m]> ^ check link
11:57:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> RTFM, ruck
12:17:29 <duckman[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "RTFM, ruck" <- ?
12:19:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> i was talking to rucknium 👍
12:23:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> <k4r4b3y[m]> "what is the latest on *<->xmr..." <- > <@k4r4b3y:halogen.city> what is the latest on *<->xmr atomic swaps? Is farcaster ready already? I remmeber they were saying "one more week" a few months ago.
12:23:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> > 
12:23:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> idk how basicswap is looking but still seems to be one of the better implemented solutions
14:03:58 <RavFX[m]> It's me or #monero-community:monero.social kinda dead?
14:19:59 <plowsof11> Traitors enjoying a may vacation probably 
14:28:03 <selsta> RavFX[m]: dead how?
14:30:10 <RavFX[m]> dead as totally empty with just people constantly "joining and leaving"
14:30:18 <ceetee[m]> IRC bridge is down / under maintainance 
14:30:18 <mlcboss[m]> is Belgium a good place to live & does the government respect their citizen freedom & privacy?
14:30:19 <RavFX[m]> and infinity_loading too
14:30:36 <ceetee[m]> 864 people were remove, about 1.5k remain. Matrix doesn't like these large changes
14:30:52 <ceetee[m]> mlcboss[m]: hard to say, lacking comparison. Average for central Europe maybe?
14:31:09 <RavFX[m]> oh, that's an irc channel, I see. Thanks for info
14:34:17 <RavFX[m]> ceetee[m]: Matrix server stuff heavy bloated, not surprised.
14:36:56 <mlcboss[m]> anyone live in Mexico , cause i want to move there soon
14:37:30 <mlcboss[m]> i kinda like Mexico warm and free their food is also good
14:40:13 <plowsof11> mlcboss did you go to monerotopia or #monero-offtopic:monero.social
14:42:25 <mlcboss[m]> ohh so this room is for XMR only
15:35:17 <cornfeedhobo> correct
16:04:26 <xfedex[m]> does anybody know what could be causing error Failed to query m_blocks: MDB_BAD_TXN: Transaction must abort, has a child, or is invalid when trying to run monerod?
16:13:43 <plowsof11> Corrupted blockchain? 😔https://monero.stackexchange.com/a/6599
16:18:44 <xfedex[m]> how could the blockchain get corrupted?
16:19:02 <xfedex[m]> do you think it could be fault of hard drive?
16:23:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> xfedex[m]: Yea
16:23:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> i had same issue a few days ago
16:24:12 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (189KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/UjcELKOQnOvXGgOViprbAELJ/0mzcc4q39rgdeb0k.jpg >
16:25:24 <xfedex[m]> if i run monerod using systemd, is there any way i can make it shut down safely?
16:26:18 <xfedex[m]> aka, when i shutdown my pc it gives ^C signal to monerod and waits for exit
16:26:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Mine corrupted while running
16:29:08 * ofrnxmr[m] uploaded an image: (248KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/monero.social/XnsfQZrkFAmzPmsOgOuwvivp/3nebm16ut0e6mwe3.jpg >
16:30:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Can see here it was running for hrs, then started blocking all of my peers and refusing to sync from block 2878604
16:32:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> No idea. But its been a while since db corruption reports
16:33:08 <NakedKing> Hello. What is wrong with my monerod? It stucks at %99. and i'm starting to see monerod is now disconnected from the network and Host x.x.x.x blocked at the end. Please check last outputs: https://paste.rs/ZDV
16:33:43 <NakedKing> i removed data and started sync from beginning. nothing changed. and im also at the latest monero cli.
16:34:20 <lazar[m]> Wish it was a bit quicker to resync
16:34:20 <lazar[m]> I suppose it’s possible I had the same thing and it wasn’t the hdd disconnect - since it was pretty much same time
16:34:20 <lazar[m]> I’m at 98% done in just under 24 hrs
16:39:35 <NakedKing> are there any way to handle this problem? checked search engines no lucky return exists
16:46:07 <RavFX> Testes my nodes just to be sure, seam OK
16:49:30 <NakedKing> RavFX, it is stagenet node
16:49:47 <RavFX[m]> My monero stuff seam to work but I noticed weird stuff in the log
16:51:05 <RavFX[m]> 2023-05-04 18:02:29.800	[P2P9]	INFO	global	src/cryptonote_protocol/cryptonote_protocol_handler.inl:409	[51.15.18.243:59822 INC] Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 2878656 -> 2878657 [Your node is 1 blocks (2.0 minutes) behind]... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/49158af85097ad90d727473448d5734bf304c7df>)
16:52:29 <RavFX[m]> sorry for block of text, copy pasting image on Qubes OS is time consuming. But anyway, if you look carefully there nodes that are over 3063952 Block height
16:56:28 <Rucknium[m]> RavFX: Could be related to: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8827
16:59:40 <RavFX[m]> ok, so just peoples trying to DOS the network
18:03:02 <great_taste> "Find the Best 2023 Meme coins to invest in"... this is "news" these days
18:03:05 <great_taste> pathetic
18:15:24 <RavFX> But meme coins are the best pump and dump coins (that's what there designed for). You just have to dump before THE dump
18:18:51 <toralien[m]> trading meme coins feels horribly dry
18:19:44 <RavFX> The only purpose is pump and dump. And coins dev have coins since the beginning and will rugpull, garantee
18:22:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> its how devs teams raise vc money for their vaporware
18:39:36 <sgp[m]> Cake Pay Mobile now also includes CVS Pharmacy, Uber, DoorDash, Instacart, Airbnb, Office Depot, Twitch, and more. Save 1-3% on these merchants. More details: https://www.reddit.com/r/cakewallet/comments/13dyl61/more_gift_cards_added_to_cake_pay_mobile_usa_to/
19:35:53 <great_taste> that's how niggas be getting rich AF...
19:36:16 <great_taste> meanwhile we stay poor and complain
22:44:22 <nioc> I would like to report that my node is fine
23:17:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> Um. Current block is 2883121
23:17:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> who tf is at block 29622350
23:17:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> https://matrix.to/#/!eBgZCVRnRRkKchiYzS:monero.social/$3IQW9hJ3tAent2-2SfwGDXYrGEHGvQUMpIU5e00TejQ?via=monero.social&via=libera.chat&via=matrix.org
23:17:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> RavFX @gfdshygti53:monero.social:  plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: 
23:18:06 <RavFX[m]> if you look you get in the 307xxx too lol, no idea, but my node did not fail at least
23:18:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> block 3063952? Huh
23:18:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeaman wtf
23:18:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> Someone is way way way ahead 
23:18:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> noloss:  go ask in r/btc
23:25:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> So go ask in r/btc, theyll help with the concern trolling 👍
23:25:50 <RavFX[m]> Don't forget to link it here
23:48:31 <kyclol[m]> Is Seth still in this chat?
23:56:29 <Alex|LocalMonero> <kyclol[m]> "Is Seth still in this chat?" <- Seth has departed our world.
23:56:38 <Alex|LocalMonero> (Not really)