00:46:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yes, your father died long ago young padawan
02:11:25 <chaserene> https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/why-i-focus-on-bitcoin/
03:34:38 <RavFX[m]> side-trips[m]: Of course
05:05:42 <mlcboss[m]> <noloss[m]> "Can I use crypto for laundering..." <- xmr doesn't need laundering 
05:05:42 <mlcboss[m]> for btc & usd please ask in appropriate channel
05:12:44 <mlcboss[m]> * xmr doesn't need laundering 
05:12:44 <mlcboss[m]> for btc & usd please ask in appropriate room
09:10:50 <someoneelse49549> <RymdLord[m]> "Hello everyone! I have been..." <- Hi, majority of people use Cake Wallet on Android. Their developers have great reputation and their wallet is robust, with support for BTC|LTC|XMR. Other options are monerujo, you could not like the interface, and StackWallet/StackDuo which are new but are great multi-coins wallets
09:22:36 <Mumuks> Are there any hardware wallet for Monero, apart from Ledger and Trezor models?
09:33:38 <someoneelse49549> DanIsnotthemanBr: yes, that's why people who knows are excited of seeing passport ported to monero
09:34:36 <someoneelse49549> RymdLord[m]: Yes, they didn't used a Cryptographic pseudo-random generator. Which have lead to attackers easily predicting what was the seeds generated
09:34:36 <someoneelse49549> but it has been fixed since a long time
09:35:59 <someoneelse49549> Yeah, really. What happened is so f*cking stupid but they have really learned
09:40:19 <someoneelse49549> RymdLord[m]: Everyone is going to say Localmonero. Because its P2P and contribute to people isntead of big corporation. If big fees aren't a problem then I advice you to buy from localmonero. If you value trade fees and don't necessary want complete anonimity. You can pass to broker like https://bity.com, that let you buy Bitcoin without KYC and then swap to Monero with trodacor.app, or cake wallet directly. If you really don't care abo
09:40:19 <someoneelse49549> when buying monero, you should just go for Kraken
09:43:01 <someoneelse49549> I'm talking for EU ofc, because Localmonero is a big deal in the US, not in the EU
10:06:21 <someoneelse49549> Btw do you guys have something against firo ? Because it seems like a long and good project but I never heard of it on r/monero ?
10:11:36 <someoneelse49549> RymdLord[m]: changenow.io is just no more what it was. It was simple and anonymous but due to legal incident they decided to pressure their customers.
10:12:03 <someoneelse49549> I used changenow.io with Tor but you have chance that they hold your funds and ask a selfie of you with your ID card
10:12:18 <someoneelse49549> if they believe you are linked to some illegal activites
10:12:29 <someoneelse49549> that's why cakewallet added trocador.app in their app
10:14:32 <someoneelse49549> If you want to use changenow.io. Yes, you have to comply to chagenow.io policy
10:14:51 <someoneelse49549> you can switch exchange provider in the app.
10:15:03 <someoneelse49549> ls 
10:15:08 <someoneelse49549> oops bad chat
10:15:36 <someoneelse49549> DanIsnotthemanBr: yes that's what I said
10:15:39 <someoneelse49549> someoneelse49549: here
10:56:59 <Mumuks> <someoneelse49549> "yes, that's why people who knows..." <- What's passport?
10:57:19 <Mumuks> (I guess I'm not in the know)
11:23:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> <DanIsnotthemanBr> "Isnt trocador in cake?" <- And stack now 👀
11:24:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cake has trocadors onion though. So.. nice
11:28:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ooo
12:15:01 <nioc> people talking to ghosts again, wonder when the bridge will be functional again
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12:39:40 <ShaneonConduitrs> changenow won't exchange XMR anymore is there any alternative?
12:39:57 <ShaneonConduitrs> i need like 5 EUR worth of BTC exchanged from XMR
12:40:46 <ShaneonConduitrs> probably bcs BTC is going down
12:41:23 <omnero376[m]> ShaneonConduitrs: fixedfloat.com typically works well and has lowest fees
12:41:34 <ShaneonConduitrs> thanks
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12:42:12 <ShaneonConduitrs> welp
12:42:21 <omnero376[m]> hmm weird, rare
12:42:47 <ShaneonConduitrs> BTCUSD is at 27325 atm so i guess they all panicking
12:44:05 <omnero376[m]> sideshift.ai is another one that seems to have it available. ive never used it but monerujo integrates it so i suppose it is fine
12:46:52 <ShaneonConduitrs> Doing XMR->LTC then
12:47:35 <ShaneonConduitrs> 4.98 EUR in XMR for 5.02 EUR in LTC
12:47:36 <ShaneonConduitrs> worth
12:50:41 <ShaneonConduitrs> and was near instant compared to BTC xD
12:51:23 <Mxthecomputerfox> hey guys, does anyone know any good ways to backup a simple mode wallet?
12:52:15 <ShaneonConduitrs> oh nwm it was just xmr being quick
12:52:15 <ShaneonConduitrs> mehh
13:01:00 <annwyn[m]> <someoneelse49549> "yes, that's why people who knows..." <- what passport?
13:01:54 <merope> <Mxthecomputerfox> "hey guys, does anyone know any..." <- As long as you write down your wallet seed, you're good
13:02:07 <someoneelse49549> annwyn[m]: https://github.com/mjg-foundation/passport2-monero
13:02:08 <merope> Bonus points for restore height, but that's just to speed up the resync
13:02:26 <someoneelse49549> but yeah Dan (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate) is right its called fountain
13:02:31 <someoneelse49549> * but yeah mb Dan (Is
13:02:53 <someoneelse49549> merope: hopefully polyseed will permit us not to remember this
13:03:08 <Mxthecomputerfox> <merope> ah alr, thanks mate
13:52:57 <someoneelse49549> <side-trips[m]> "If I've already used kraken..." <- maybe GPDR ?
14:23:13 <someoneelse49549> <LeriaReynolds[m]> "How does one swap btc or..." <- there is thee ways. 1 Using a centralized exchange (don't do that please) 2. Using an instant exchange or an aggregator, like trocador.app (recommended) 3. If you want to swap BTC (or even ETH but its still experimental) use an Atomic swap interface
14:23:46 <someoneelse49549> * swap interface unstoppablewallet.com
14:23:54 <someoneelse49549> * swap interface unstoppableswap.com
14:24:19 <someoneelse49549> * swap interface https://unstoppableswap.net/
14:42:57 <BusyBoredom[m]> IMO centralized exchanges are fine if you just withdraw right away. Sure big brother will know you bought monero, but everything you do with that monero is still private. Can't beat Kraken's convenience.
14:52:16 <someoneelse49549> and interface
14:52:18 <someoneelse49549> we don't value enough the user interface
15:03:18 <vostoemisio[m]> Hey All,
15:03:18 <vostoemisio[m]> I made a ccs proposal today for an animated video. Please read the description and feel free to give feedback and comment, thanks! 
15:03:18 <vostoemisio[m]> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/387
15:03:19 <vostoemisio[m]> //VOSTO 
15:19:52 <jamss[m]> <vostoemisio[m]> "Hey All,..." <- > <@vostoemisio:matrix.org> Hey All,... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/16bc73130379acdbb607c5d5b5e081dbdc29436f>)
17:00:18 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero Issue 170: May 4 - 11, 2023. https://revuo-xmr.com/issue-170.html
17:13:34 <spackle_xmr[m]> https://github.com/spackle-xmr/Nonsense/blob/main/10x_ramp_2days.gif
17:13:34 <spackle_xmr[m]> I made this animated plot showing how the dynamic block size would respond to a ramping 10x transaction increase over 2 days. I am considering using this plot (or plots like it) to write an explainer on how Monero might respond to a BRC-20 style rush (Disclaimer that no one has checked my work and I am doing this as a hobbyist.)
17:13:34 <spackle_xmr[m]> Critiques welcome. Please chime in if you have an idea about a better way to show the data, or what other data should be shown. 
17:31:55 <spackle_xmr[m]> sorry, meant to post that elsewhere.
20:50:44 <jamss[m]> <DanIsnotthemanBr> "Trocador has monero condom..." <- Sus
21:10:34 <merope> <Unknown[m]> "I have some bitcoin that I..." <- You also don't know the history of the new BTC you're getting in return. You know what's the safest way? Use Monero directly and skip the Bitcoin middleman (and its insane transaction fees)
21:10:45 <ceetee[m]> <Unknown[m]> "I have some bitcoin that I..." <- except it doesn't work like that. Even if you do not have access to the swap services logs, you can make some assumptions from the data that is on the BTC block chain. If the input is known, look at recent outputs with a similar value minus fees, send by an address that belongs to a swap service.
21:10:45 <ceetee[m]> So swap to monero, hold it for a while, and use is slowly over time and NOT all at once
21:16:20 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Option 2: swap to monero and only use monero
21:16:20 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Fixed
21:23:14 <susman1[m]> could monero ever just get cracked out of nowhere
21:27:56 <bridgerton[m]> <morato> yes
21:28:00 <bridgerton[m]> <morato> so as any crypto i think
21:28:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Bing ai, what is a zero-day?
21:56:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> Never know whether one is asking about cracking keys, cracking anonymity, cracking supply
21:57:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> If we lost forward secrecy, we are still better than btc
21:57:22 <bridgerton[m]> <morato> crack open a cold one
21:58:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> well, that one wouldnt be out of nowhere but out of the fridge