00:39:52 <bridgerton[m]> <Himington> How do i buy like 5 dollars worth of monero
01:07:46 <Alex|LocalMonero> <bridgerton[m]> "<Himington> How do i buy like..." <- Have you tried LocalMonero? CashApp should work well if you're in the US.
13:20:21 <xfedex[m]> Hey there, how can I gracefully shutdown monerod when PC is shutting down, if its run from systemd?
13:22:20 <side-trips[m]> <ofrnxmr[m]> "Example bbeing "btc in elsalvado..." <- Is the El Salvador experiment sustainable, and why has no country tried something similar with xmr? Don't want to get political, just curious
13:23:44 <k4r4b3y[m]1> My guess is lack of awareness
13:23:57 <k4r4b3y[m]1> Many people do not know Monero exists.
13:24:59 <k4r4b3y[m]1> For example, in he high fee event, people flocked to using LTC, and not XMR.
13:25:24 <xfedex[m]> side-trips[m]: I'm glad that no country tried to do what El Salvador did with BTC
13:25:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> k4r4b3y[m]1: ltc fake af vokume
13:25:51 <xfedex[m]> El Salvador's "bitcoin" wallet is just custodial, centralized garbage
13:25:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Tons of micropayments
13:29:32 <side-trips[m]> k4r4b3y[m]1: I've always wondered why initial influences that pulled me into crypto thought so highly of ltc
13:30:14 <k4r4b3y[m]1> xfedex[m]: I think the question should be "why has no COMMUNITY tried something similar with XMR?"
13:30:38 <side-trips[m]> Cuz community is kill
13:30:51 <k4r4b3y[m]1> Instead of wishing to government mandate for enforcing monero usage, we should see comminities on the meatspace trying to adopt XMR.
13:31:00 <k4r4b3y[m]1> Example: Orania, South Africa.
13:31:17 <xfedex[m]> k4r4b3y[m]1: Probably because it's not big enough yet
13:31:17 <k4r4b3y[m]1> They already have created their own paper money, outside of the SA state.
13:31:32 <k4r4b3y[m]1> Why didn't they pick XMR?
13:31:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Cucks, obv
13:32:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> The world is a stage
13:32:40 <xfedex[m]> Monero's active community is only a few thousands of people, and Bitcoin's real community (those who want it to be actually adopted) is just like 2-3x larger
13:33:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> butcoin active comm&nity doesnt use btc
13:33:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> They talk a lot and know nothing about what they talk about
13:33:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Showing that they clearly have never used btc
13:33:56 <side-trips[m]> xfedex[m]: For real? How'd you get to this conclusion? 
13:34:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> Th recen push and acceptance for custodial or trusted solutions shows btc users never cared
13:34:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> side-trips[m]: Reddit etc
13:34:30 <k4r4b3y[m]1> ofrnxmr[m]: The recent article praising the custodial btc adoption for the sake of front-running cbdc's is an example of this.
13:34:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> Theres far more normies in btc, thats for sure
13:34:47 <k4r4b3y[m]1> Custodial bitcoin is not using bitcoin.
13:34:52 <ofrnxmr[m]> But "in" btc.. on coinbase 
13:35:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> These days "btc users" disagree 
13:35:14 <ofrnxmr[m]> Custodial is the ONLY path forward 
13:35:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> lmao
13:35:24 <k4r4b3y[m]1> k4r4b3y[m]1: Sauce: check Seth's twit. He has a thread dunking on it.
13:35:34 <ofrnxmr[m]> S*th
13:35:35 <xfedex[m]> side-trips[m]: https://subredditstats.com/r/monero
13:35:35 <xfedex[m]> https://subredditstats.com/r/bitcoin
13:35:36 <xfedex[m]> Most people in Bitcoin never actually used it, they have it only for gambling
13:35:50 <k4r4b3y[m]1> ofrnxmr[m]: This your opinion or you being sarcastic?
13:35:51 <xfedex[m]> i did a very very very rough estimate
13:36:04 <xfedex[m]> k4r4b3y[m]1: He's sarcastic
13:36:14 <xfedex[m]> you don't know ofrnxmr i guess :)
13:36:22 <k4r4b3y[m]1> xfedex[m]: I am new around here
13:37:20 <side-trips[m]> Bros y'all are so right. I'm also new lurker and the xmr community scares tf outta me
13:37:37 <k4r4b3y[m]1> <xfedex[m]> "Hey there, how can I gracefully..." <- Btw ping me if someone answers this. So far I have been letting systemd shutdown monerod. But I don't know if it has been doing that "gracefully" or not.
13:38:04 <xfedex[m]> afaik when you shut down the system, systemd services are terminated
13:38:06 <xfedex[m]> not sure
13:38:23 <side-trips[m]> Gotta be way to see in sysd logs right? 
13:38:38 <xfedex[m]> my blockchain had corrupted and i had to resync, it's kinda annoying
13:39:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Resyncing was indeed annoying 
13:39:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> But now keep 2 copies lol
13:40:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> And once a week run a cron job on a second monerod with  --add-exclusive-node=activenode --data-dir=different/folder
13:41:01 <xfedex[m]> what why
13:41:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> so if the active once corrupts, i have a copy less than a week old 
13:42:02 <ofrnxmr[m]> Idk if i can copy the blockchain file while its in use so it from sync from myself 
13:42:18 <ofrnxmr[m]> So i just sync it from myself*
15:48:02 <dcmeans7[m]> Had no idea this existed and I love it
16:33:22 <dcmeans7[m]> Hello friends
16:47:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Welcome
16:47:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> There are a few different rooms here. For support, mining, workgroups, development, research
16:48:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> A lot of them are here https://matrix.to/#/#monerospace:monero.social
16:49:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> ^ this is the link to the "monero space". Which has most of the other rooms 
17:06:29 <George[m]> [P2P7]	INFO	global	src/cryptonote_protocol/cryptonote_protocol_handler.inl:1686	Synced 53760/2885976 (1%, 2832216 left)
17:06:29 <George[m]> If that ^ was printed to my log, why would get_info's height show 53760 and target_height not show 2885976.  Sometimes it's showing 0 and I've also seen target_height be non-zero yet also below height's #.  Why?
19:08:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> probably checked get_info before your peer mde outgoing connections
19:09:00 <ofrnxmr[m]> Targerlt shows 0 or stops counting aftrr fully synced or if you havent recieved the top height from peers
19:10:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> below height = node finished syncing 
19:12:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> My code smthn like 'if .target_height -lt .height echo synced else .target_height - .height end'
19:12:37 <ofrnxmr[m]> * My code smthn like `if .target_height -lt .height echo synced else .target_height - .height end`
19:13:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> And only does the calc after having > 2 peers 
21:39:26 <ofrnxmr[m]> You cant make this shit up... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/972f6395a8cd766fbd9d5fdee1a9e8d88d42b378>)
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23:14:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> If only i had a reddit acct
23:32:40 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Yest
23:33:15 <DanIsnotthemanBr> With my own transactions