00:39:07 <Alex|LocalMonero> https://localmonero.co/the-monero-standard/weekly/54
00:39:28 <Alex|LocalMonero> <side-trips[m]> "Holy cow, cypherpunks been out..." <- This.
01:25:20 <side-trips[m]> https://localmonero.co/knowledge -- I found the treasure trove at last
01:25:20 <side-trips[m]> This should permahalt my question spam; thank you good folks for your patience tho!
01:41:04 <bike[m]> <side-trips[m]> "https://localmonero.co/knowledge..." <- > <@side-trips:matrix.org> https://localmonero.co/knowledge -- I found the treasure trove at last
01:41:04 <bike[m]> > This should permahalt my question spam; thank you good folks for your patience tho!
01:41:04 <bike[m]> I see I must take your place...
01:41:06 <bike[m]> Hey guys
01:41:11 <bike[m]> What's a Monero?
02:43:37 <Alex|LocalMonero> <bike[m]> "What's a Monero?" <- monero means money, m8
05:26:47 <jollyboy[m]> so Cake wallet is generally thought to be spyware free because its open source?
05:42:56 <apotheon> jollyboy[m]: both Cake and Monerujo, for Android options, yeah
05:43:19 <apotheon> There's a thin wallet that escapes me that is also sometimes referenced as one of the good wallets.
05:43:40 <apotheon> I think Fluffy might be associated with that one.
06:21:22 <r4v3r23[m]> <jollyboy[m]> "so Cake wallet is generally..." <- no, for other reasons
06:30:05 <apotheon> Being open is a factor.
07:04:38 <DanIsnotthemanBr> audit-able code ^
07:07:26 <jollyboy[m]> <apotheon> "jollyboy: both Cake and Monerujo..." <- linux
07:16:58 <jollyboy[m]> someone here told me Atomic uses firebase, which is spyware
07:17:24 <jollyboy[m]> Cake wouldnt use something like firebase, right?
07:17:31 <jollyboy[m]> give all your data to big tech?
08:27:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> <jollyboy[m]> "Cake wouldnt use something..." <- They did 
08:27:43 <ofrnxmr[m]> Rip ty ofrn
08:28:03 <ofrnxmr[m]> <jollyboy[m]> "someone here told me Atomic uses..." <- Twas me
08:43:51 <ofrnxmr[m]> cake doesnt include any trackers or rely on any external connections... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/67c31eaa5978cce65c1e7570da86bd804b847b9b>)
08:44:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> * cake doesnt include any trackers or rely on any external connections... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/1a8d9f3332326b17bfdc4e5affb1b8d656baa14b>)
08:45:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> * cake doesnt include any trackers or rely on any external connections... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/75f9e48072862afdd39d984c82354de4286efd42>)
08:46:21 <k4r4b3y[m]1> <guruji[m]> "> <@k4r4b3y:karapara.net> Having..." <- You can say that. But there are such initiatives on Bitcoin's part. There are small btc communities IRL in Africa, South America, SE Asia, etc.
08:46:39 <k4r4b3y[m]1> What matters is having such initiatives on the ground.
08:47:11 <k4r4b3y[m]1> Showing the govt all others watching that there are some sizeable amount of people want this stuff (monero)
08:47:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> k4r4b3y[m]1: And NA
08:47:54 <k4r4b3y[m]1> And if the govt decides to play the bully and crack down on them, then, that shows how despotic the "lovely govt" is out in the open.
08:48:11 <k4r4b3y[m]1> That would open many eyes to the reality of the govt mafia.
08:48:15 <k4r4b3y[m]1> That is valuable.
08:48:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> The govewho? never heard of em
08:56:19 <DanIsnotthemanBr> ^plowsof
09:02:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ooooooooh. Thats right. 🙇‍♂️
10:45:31 <rbrunner> One more of my Monero themed fiction short stories: https://rbrunner7.github.io/ring_ct.html
16:20:54 <toralien[m]> <Alex|LocalMonero> "monero means money, m8" <- fomoed 6 figs recently
17:14:34 <jamss[m]> <toralien[m]> "fomoed 6 figs recently" <- My fig tree isn't bearing this year, so I can't fomo
21:31:55 <imprevisto[m]> opinion for best linux desktop client?
21:32:19 <Alex|LocalMonero> featherwallet.org
21:32:22 <Alex|LocalMonero> No contest.
21:32:34 <imprevisto[m]> thx Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk 
21:49:50 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Rip monero gui
21:50:38 <monerobull[m]> GUI looks fancy
21:50:49 <monerobull[m]> And I'm used to it
21:51:25 <nioc> CLI  :)
21:51:34 <monerobull[m]> I'd still use feather on tails
21:52:00 <monerobull[m]> nioc: I don't want to handle money in a terminal 
21:52:21 <plowsof11> is it possible to move the cursor backwards in the cli (i make typos alot) 
21:52:23 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Ahha
21:52:28 <DanIsnotthemanBr> 🚀
21:52:34 <nioc> backspace
21:52:48 <plowsof11> b-but
21:52:59 <DanIsnotthemanBr> :wq
21:53:21 <monerobull[m]> Chatgpt how do I exit vim 
21:53:38 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Helping people who are still stuck in vim
21:54:01 <monerobull[m]> I once followed some Linux tutorial 
21:54:17 <monerobull[m]> And got baited into entering a config file with vim
21:54:33 <DanIsnotthemanBr> One year later
21:54:38 <monerobull[m]> That wasn't fun
21:54:38 <DanIsnotthemanBr> :wq
21:55:02 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Probably why its a meme
22:00:25 <lza_menace> :x crew
22:00:46 <Snipa> ctrl + z; kill -9  %1 is the way.
22:01:17 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Close cmd, open new cmd
22:01:38 <monerobull[m]> nano
22:01:57 <monerobull[m]> I still don't know how to select stuff properly in nano
22:01:58 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Ctrl x ,ctrl + o
22:02:21 <monerobull[m]> When i have to redo something, i have to hold down delete till the file is empty 
22:02:22 <DanIsnotthemanBr> F6 = keyword search?
22:02:30 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Oh lol
22:02:36 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Yeah
22:03:18 <monerobull[m]> I'll ask ChatGPT next time i need it 
22:03:20 <DanIsnotthemanBr> https://askubuntu.com/questions/501020/how-to-delete-selected-text-in-nano-editor
22:03:34 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Gptplowsof
22:04:09 <Snipa> If you want to delete an entire file's content: "> filename" from the terminal window is great.
22:04:13 <Snipa> But it's only slightly dangerous.
22:04:15 <DanIsnotthemanBr> * plowsofgpt
22:04:15 <monerobull[m]> You can select and cut something other than the current line using Ctrl-^ to mark the start of the text, then advancing the cursor e.g. using Ctrl-F (forward one character) and/or Ctrl-Space (forward one word) and/or arrow keys, and then pressing Ctrl-K
22:04:21 <monerobull[m]> What the fuck
22:04:50 <DanIsnotthemanBr> I just rf file and nano new one
22:05:03 <monerobull[m]> That is definitely faster
22:07:26 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Did you work the nyms thing with cost?
22:08:45 <DanIsnotthemanBr> s/work/workout/
22:10:25 <monerobull[m]> Lol no
22:10:42 <monerobull[m]> I didn't bother to further investigate after realizing it's app based
22:13:48 <Alex|LocalMonero> <plowsof11> "is it possible to move the..." <- yes
22:15:22 <Alex|LocalMonero> <DanIsnotthemanBr> "Rip monero gui" <- I'm sorry but the official GUI should be feather. We get support tickets all the time about sync issues with the official GUI and cake, we always recommend using feather instead and it always fixes the issue.
22:16:30 <Alex|LocalMonero> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/13m7u2e/monero_mentioned_in_fireships_latest_video_huge/
22:16:40 <plowsof11> seraphis will r.i.p the monero gui 
22:16:45 <Alex|LocalMonero> ^ nice to see Fireship giving Monero some love.
22:18:21 <plowsof11> featherwallet/tobtoht seems to be preparing / removing things upstream to make things easier for all , thnx
22:19:37 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Can you go forwards in cli?
22:21:45 <plowsof11> <Alex|LocalMonero> "^ nice to see Fireship giving..." <- 2.14M subscribers - lists Monero / Square / Paypal as alternative payment providers, nice 
22:22:13 <toralien[m]> <DanIsnotthemanBr> "F6 = keyword search?" <- i need to stop being online my internet induced dyslexia made me read that as FBI
22:22:22 <plowsof11> (cue reddit thread crediting this plug to them having watched the ccs animated video 1) 
22:22:45 <Alex|LocalMonero> DanIsnotthemanBr: yes
22:23:29 <DanIsnotthemanBr> toralien[m]: CLI=keyword search?
23:24:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> <Alex|LocalMonero> "I'm sorry but the official GUI..." <- Not a gui issue but local / remote node issue
23:25:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> And w cake, im assuming ios (cuz i dont use/dont know). Syncs reliably on android
23:26:03 <lza_menace> the privacy principles applied to everything, while valid, also come with side effects such as being more difficult for users to troubleshoot.
23:26:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Feather fixes issue cuz it uses plowsof TM node
23:26:22 <lza_menace> feather does a great job at making it dummy proof yet still somewhat secure
23:26:48 <lza_menace> s/somewhat/pretty/
23:28:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Gui users often have dormant local nodes(catch up sync), are running outdated versions, or are using malicious or just slow nodes 
23:29:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> Feather uses like 10 high speed community nodes run by selsta, plowsof, majestic, s*th etc.