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05:30:44 <rottenwheel> comradeblin: you may want to join Monero Events for everything MoneroKon-related. 
05:41:56 <comradeblin[m]> Ty
08:49:27 <Jonah[m]> <comradeblin[m]> "20230624_071728_3995279300868120..." <- At least ur not british
10:30:15 <mlcboss[m]> <arch-nemesis> "You have a bank that lets you..." <- no i use local monero , you can sell your monero for cash or cashless money
10:31:01 <mlcboss[m]> <apotheon> "mlcboss: That probably depends..." <- no in 1st country like US or Europe
11:00:54 <LeriaReynolds[m]> https://www.brighteon.com/56e71e66-980c-47ba-8d39-77bc89420778
11:13:26 <modul8[m]> adoption? daym
11:28:54 <modul8[m]> <LeriaReynolds[m]> "https://www.brighteon.com/56e71e..." <- interesting...ill be watching decentralyzed tv next week. 
13:20:19 <pbw[m]> Hi. I just upgraded my mac to Ventura. Forst time I tried to open monero-wallet-gui and connect to my Ledger Nano S, I get a "wron channel" message. Has anyone seen this?
13:53:13 <plowsof11> Try asking selsta in #monero-gui:monero.social  p.b.w (or here)
13:55:25 <selsta> pbw[m]: did you make sure that Ledger Live is closed?
13:55:30 <mlcboss[m]> hoarding monero or use monero as investment is this a good or bad thing?
13:57:53 <selsta> pbw[m]: make sure that ledger live, firmware and monero app are all up to date. monero app is opened and unlocked on your ledger and only monero-gui is open
13:58:05 <selsta> if it still doesn't work try to restart your mac and use a different usb port
14:09:28 <pbw[m]> Thasnks for trhe suggestions. I checked for the latest versions of all the software, tries a different usb port, and eventually just retried a few more times and it connected.
14:10:14 <pbw[m]> (English is my first language, but typing is not my first skill.)
14:18:43 <pbw[m]> Thanks again.
14:38:44 <SNeedlewoods> I wanted to check the Monerokon live stream, but Youtube says "Stream suspended for policy violations"
14:56:41 <apotheon> mlcboss[m]: I misunderstood your question, I guess.  What you asked about which of two options is less suspicious is unclear to me after you corrected arch-nemesis about the intent of the question.  Would you please rephrase the question?
14:56:52 <apotheon> as for this question:
14:56:55 <apotheon> 13:55 < mlcboss[m]> hoarding monero or use monero as investment is this a good or bad thing?
14:58:54 <apotheon> I'd say "hoarding" in its most literal sense is not exactly great.  It doesn't help the Monero economy so much.  Using it as an investment is somewhat dangerous to the "investor", just as any stock investment can be dangerous, as its value compared to other currencies is outside your control; it's basically gambling.
15:00:22 <apotheon> It's reasonable to build up a cushion of savings, and to spend it in ways that contribute to a circular economy to help strengthen the utility of Monero as a currency (and replace what you spend from your Monero savings by converting some fiat to Monero).
15:03:15 <apotheon> A major benefit of Monero is its utility as a currency with privacy protections better than other digital currencies.  Another is the fact it is not subject to being debased like fiat currencies.  Assuming the internet continues to survive, its major weakness is the weakness that all currencies share: the potential for all trust in its value to evaporate.  That can apply to USD, EUR, BTC, gold,
15:03:21 <apotheon> and pretty little seashells.
15:04:58 <k4r4b3y[m]> I will hoard monero and there is simply nothing you can do to stop me.
15:05:27 <k4r4b3y[m]> <LeriaReynolds[m]> "https://www.brighteon.com/56e71e..." <- Bullish
15:17:57 <apotheon> k4r4b3y[m]: okay
15:18:40 <apotheon> It's probably kind of a net-zero effect on things, if that's all you do, unless you're hoarding truly absurd quantities.
15:19:08 <k4r4b3y[m]> Maybe. Smug_pepe.jpeg
15:20:57 <apotheon> mlcboss[m]: Depositing cash, if it's not a large amount, isn't really suspicious in the US.  You might have just had a garage sale or sold nice (if old) set of kitchen knives on Craigslist because you got a nicer set for your birthday.
16:11:36 <nikg83[m]> https://twitter.com/kayabanerve/status/1672616247626723330 👀
16:40:36 <modul8[m]> <nikg83[m]> "https://twitter.com/kayabanerve..." <- 👀
18:02:19 <k4r4b3y[m]> Congrats
18:02:23 <k4r4b3y[m]> Sounds great
22:17:56 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> why no dress twirl 
22:59:37 <louissignet[m]> Finally joined the matrix chatroom
22:59:53 <louissignet[m]> after 3 different people at konferenco asked me if I was in this server lol
23:00:38 <louissignet[m]> I was mostly on monero twitter before
23:03:44 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> welcome to the darkside
23:04:32 <louissignet[m]> 🤝
23:04:53 <louissignet[m]> I've met some impressive people on the conference
23:05:26 <louissignet[m]> So it was an easy choice for me to join matrix 
23:13:07 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> plowsof: will give you welcome pack
23:47:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero https://matrix.to/#/#monerospace:monero.social