00:21:55 <ctrose010[m]> Is there a limit to subaddresses I can create?
00:47:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> <merope> "Well, the upper bound is..." <- ^
00:51:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> But i think lookahead is 200(?) subaddresses per account 
01:00:31 <RavFX[m]> So just don't create 300 sub-address to then use the last one if you don't want to panic a la "where are my monero" after you restore you're wallet.
01:00:32 <RavFX[m]> As long as you use them plus or less in order you then have "unlimited" amount of subaddress.
01:00:32 <RavFX[m]> Work better in feather-wallet thru as the one you use don't show up
01:02:01 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think the issue is mostly if you restore a wallet (?)
01:02:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> But i assume theres a way to tell it to scan to index xyz
01:02:40 <merope> Should be fine as long as you remember to set --restore-lookahead
01:02:48 <RavFX[m]> YEah, if you use more than the look ahead (like you leave a pool of >200 unused address between address you use, then after a rescan it won't see the income in these
01:02:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> There we go
03:32:22 <ctrose010[m]> So if I create one for every transaction after one is used, it is unlimited?
03:53:39 <BobSacmanto[m]> ctrose010: you can generate millions if not billions of subaddresses
03:53:41 <BobSacmanto[m]> https://coinomi.github.io/tools/bip39/
03:54:02 <BobSacmanto[m]> Not unlimited but enough for a lifetime
03:54:25 <ctrose010[m]> Sounds good to me!
05:00:36 <demitasse[m]> New monero simpleX chat
05:00:36 <demitasse[m]> https://simplex.chat/contact/#/?v=1-2&smp=smp%3A%2F%2F6iIcWT_dF2zN_w5xzZEY7HI2Prbh3ldP07YTyDexPjE%3D%40smp10.simplex.im%2FcW6sHVaMYepLDqSTQjzOgMNKR6zZq4-1%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-2%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEAZ0rUwis6lWTA5SPzGsKOo-zZ0gHx1Hdn2btyl9hHtWE%253D%26srv%3Drb2pbttocvnbrngnwziclp2f4ckjq65kebafws6g4hy22cdaiv5dwjqd.onion&data=%7B%22type%22%3A%22group%22%2C%22groupLinkId%22%3A%22ewRrVQYfSK7vscPtyqAXwQ%3D%3D%22%7D
05:04:11 <XMRPriest[m]> Help support different forms of privacy tech with a monero group on simple x
06:50:19 <deflationearwig[> Reliable tools to derive Monero Wallet from 24 Seed Words
06:50:19 <deflationearwig[> BIP 85 lets you derive child seeds from a parent seed. It is easy to derive the child seed from the parent seed, but you can't derive the parent seed from the child seed.
06:50:19 <deflationearwig[> This enables you to control multiple independent wallets with only one backup.
06:50:19 <deflationearwig[> If I could derive monero wallets from a Bitcoin wallet seed, I would not have to back up my Moneor Seed Words seperatly since I could always derive them again from my parent seed.
07:27:25 <skooner[m]> What's Monero?
07:28:44 <TrasherDK[m]> <k4r4b3y[m]> "> <@naphtha:kyun.host> otherwise..." <- Maintenance is not that much, but setting up a full-fledged sendmail server with all bell's and whistles is a bitch.
07:29:34 <luks2[m]> skooner[m]: best privacy cryptocurrency
07:29:50 <ocean[m]> skooner: https://www.monero.how/monero-infographic.jpg
07:29:54 <k4r4b3y[m]> skooner[m]: The only crypto currency that is used.
07:31:01 <luks2[m]> thats a bit arrogant 
07:31:09 <skooner[m]> Oh it's like dogecoin? Sorry my cousin told me about it and he's kind of loony so I assumed it was drugs or something
07:33:19 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> k
07:34:38 <Siren[m]> luks2[m]: It's actually used as a currency. Most aren't fit for this purpose.
07:35:02 <skooner[m]> So what can I buy with it?
07:35:23 <skooner[m]> I remember my local coffee place used to take some crypto
07:36:18 <Siren[m]> skooner[m]: Pretty much any digital service like hosting, domain names. Also food, drugs, tech.
07:38:18 <luks2[m]> <skooner[m]> "Oh it's like dogecoin? Sorry..." <- your cousin could be buying drugs with it 
07:38:33 <luks2[m]> you can buy gift cards a lot of stuff
07:38:36 <skooner[m]> And I can get Monero from coinbase right? I made an account there but never used it
07:38:42 <luks2[m]> no
07:38:59 <skooner[m]> luks2[m]: > <@luks2[m]:libera.chat> > <@skooner[m]:libera.chat> Oh it's like dogecoin? Sorry my cousin told me about it and he's kind of loony so I assumed it was drugs or something
07:38:59 <skooner[m]> > 
07:38:59 <skooner[m]> > your cousin could be buying drugs with it 
07:38:59 <skooner[m]> I'm pretty sure my cousin is _making_ drugs
07:39:21 <luks2[m]> he could be buying the precursors with monero 
07:39:54 <skooner[m]> Every family dinner it's like a fucking hurricane came through if he's around
07:40:15 <luks2[m]> oh i was in the room that bridges to here
07:41:03 <skooner[m]> luks2[m]: Hope the cops clap his arse lol
07:41:29 <Siren[m]> skooner[m]: If he's not using monero that's very possible
07:42:16 <skooner[m]> luks2[m]: Drugs are for bad people?
07:42:52 <Siren[m]> luks2[m]: I guess he likes to talk about his business during family dinners :D 
07:42:55 <skooner[m]> What's fentanyl?
07:43:36 <skooner[m]> Siren[m]: I wish he talked about something that makes him money even if it's drugs.
07:44:35 <skooner[m]> It's always some weird shit like gay people, conspiracy theories and how he's being watched
07:44:53 <skooner[m]> luks2[m]: Second language, yes.
07:45:07 <skooner[m]> I don't really know about drugs
07:45:35 <skooner[m]> I had weed once, it was terrible
07:46:18 <skooner[m]> Oh I see
07:46:44 <skooner[m]> This is why you just say no to drugs
07:47:02 <skooner[m]> Stick to normal stuff like water and fruit juice
07:47:10 <skooner[m]> Maybe the occasional coffee
07:47:53 <skooner[m]> Anyway where can I buy Monero?
07:49:22 <Siren[m]> There is https://localmonero.co
07:49:22 <Siren[m]> Also if you have other crypto already, you can swap for Monero. There are also centralized exchanges like Binance but don't keep your funds in there. 
07:49:41 <skooner[m]> Alright, thanks! 
07:50:11 <skooner[m]> Sorry what do you mean like centralised exchanges?
07:51:24 <skooner[m]> I have some Bitcoin on Robinhood, can I keep my Monero there too?
07:58:31 <skooner[m]> Oh wow I can get Mullvad and Proton with this
07:58:36 <sech1> Prepare for a revelation. If you can't withdraw your Bitcoin to your own wallet, then you don't have Bitcoin on Robinhood. All you have is a number on screen and a pinky promise to exchange it later.
07:59:05 <sech1> Thankv
07:59:23 <sech1> Thank God Robinhood doesn't have Monero
07:59:33 <skooner[m]> Withdraw? Like I sell it for money and take it to my bank account?
07:59:47 <sech1> To your own crypto wallet
08:00:07 <skooner[m]> Idk how to do that
08:00:19 <skooner[m]> I need to buy a wallet for this?
08:00:41 <sech1> You need to google. And a lot.
08:00:47 <skooner[m]> Sorry I'm really new to all this
08:03:51 <skooner[m]> Okay I searched for wallet and seems like Metamask is the most popular one
08:03:57 <skooner[m]> That works right?
08:04:11 <skooner[m]> What's that?
08:04:22 <skooner[m]> I'm not really into politics
08:05:16 <skooner[m]> Oh it's just a cute anime picture I got from reddit I think
08:05:29 <skooner[m]> Her hair looks like mine so I kept it 
08:14:20 <skooner[m]> Alright I'm downloading it
08:33:42 <k4r4b3y[m]> <skooner[m]> "So what can I buy with it?" <- monerica.com
08:36:43 <k4r4b3y[m]> <skooner[m]> "I need to buy a wallet for this?" <- download stackwallet https://stackwallet.com/
08:37:02 <k4r4b3y[m]> And store your monero in there
08:37:28 <k4r4b3y[m]> luks2[m]: From the chat history, he also mentioned that he has some btc on robinhood
08:37:40 <k4r4b3y[m]> He can use stack wallet both for btc and xmr
08:38:19 <k4r4b3y[m]> <skooner[m]> "Oh it's just a cute anime..." <- So yes you are an ancap.
08:38:24 <k4r4b3y[m]> Welcome aboard.
08:42:12 <k4r4b3y[m]> k4r4b3y[m]: And most importantly, he can swap his btc into xmr 😉
09:05:13 <skooner[m]> <k4r4b3y[m]> "download stackwallet https://..." <- Oh this is nice, I like that it's on mobile
10:04:08 <naphtha[m]> <skooner[m]> "Oh it's just a cute anime..." <- thiiss niggaaa a feeeed
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10:06:14 <skooner[m]> naphtha[m]: Idk what you mean
10:06:36 <skooner[m]> Feed what?
10:07:26 <naphtha[m]> you behave like a federal agent
10:07:39 <skooner[m]> Umm how?
10:07:56 <naphtha[m]> gut schizo feeling
10:08:14 <skooner[m]> I honestly don't understand what you're saying
10:08:48 <skooner[m]> But I do work for the government
10:09:13 <skooner[m]> FBC research specialist
10:19:00 <someoneelse49549> <skooner[m]> "Her hair looks like mine so I..." <- you looks like rem ?
10:19:12 <someoneelse49549> s/?/?. Dude I'm jealous/
10:19:26 <someoneelse49549> * rem ? Dude I'm jealous
15:03:35 <RavFX[m]> With that curve trees solution, that will also fix the "HDD bad" problem, for nodes.
15:03:35 <RavFX[m]> That's nice, So peoples with hdd won't even need to use cache at the end and the whole impossible storage problem is solved. And we can easily grow a few TB per / year
15:09:24 <RavFX[m]> Kucoin is done for
15:11:20 <stsh[m]> <skooner[m]> "FBC research specialist" <- the real one?
15:17:12 <skooner[m]> <stsh[m]> "the real one?" <- How would I work at a fake place?
15:21:47 <tom[m]12> Hi all . Please tell me how to download  mysu wallet without tor or i2p?
15:21:59 <tom[m]12> https://monero.observer/pokkst-rebrands-mynero-mysu-wallet-with-v0.4.2.1-release/#fnref:6
15:23:36 <tom[m]12> I know before it was possible to download . Has something changed now?
15:24:10 <plowsof11> must not be possible as mysu.dev redirects to the onion url
15:25:40 <tom[m]12> plowsof11: thanks for the answer . Yes, I saw it, so I decided to clarify, since earlier I remember it was possible to download without using the onion URL
15:27:22 <plowsof11> maybe r4v3r23 could confirm?
16:22:54 <ctrose010[m]> When mining in Monero GUI wallet, can I choose where the payouts go to?
16:23:16 <ctrose010[m]> I have yet to get anything, but I would like it to go to a specific Account.
16:27:57 <merope> It can only go to the main wallet address
16:28:13 <merope> Yep
16:28:25 <ctrose010[m]> Ok, thank you.
16:29:19 <merope> You're welcome
21:53:41 <scragglez[m]> <naphtha[m]> "gut schizo feeling" <- based
21:54:26 <scragglez[m]> That's right up there with "it came to me in a dream" 
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22:09:57 <scragglez[m]> Can I just pay vs having to post a link on social media to get a monero.town account?
22:10:28 <scragglez[m]> nvm can't read
22:22:42 <scragglez[m]> best way to copy paste addr between devices? 
22:24:31 <comradeblin[m]> add yourself on element
22:24:38 <comradeblin[m]> and send the address
22:24:43 <scragglez[m]> you know, I looked to see if that was possible
22:24:45 <comradeblin[m]> copy - paste
22:24:51 <plowsof11> send me the address via pm 
22:25:03 <scragglez[m]> plowsof11: perfect
22:25:04 <comradeblin[m]> yea, or use someone else as a clipboard u trust
22:25:26 <scragglez[m]> actually I'll send half of it to comradeblin and then the other half to you plowsof 
22:25:29 <comradeblin[m]> I use discord MEE6 :D
22:25:34 <comradeblin[m]> scragglez[m]: 200IQ
22:25:59 <comradeblin[m]> now I just send it to plowsof and we put it together and have ur address
22:26:07 <comradeblin[m]> 😁
22:26:14 <scragglez[m]> yeah I'm working on a scheme to defeat that
22:26:39 <comradeblin[m]> just change a character
22:26:42 <scragglez[m]> might have to hash it before
22:26:45 <plowsof11> can you describe the 2 devices / usecase?
22:27:06 <comradeblin[m]> plowsof11: hashing != encryption, nonsense
22:27:19 <comradeblin[m]> you cant dehash it if you dont know the address
22:27:30 <plowsof11> camera for QR code / NFC available on any of the devices?
22:28:02 <scragglez[m]> plowsof11: uhh opsec!
22:28:08 <comradeblin[m]> if not, just change a character in the sent address to us, and problem solved.
22:28:34 <comradeblin[m]> prolly first 8/last 8 characters would be the best choice,
22:28:42 <comradeblin[m]> from that..
22:30:28 <plowsof11> im using tails, i see an address on my screen, and i have a wallet on another device?
22:31:30 <plowsof11> i would say you should just read the manual so you have a wallet inside tails also https://xmrguide.org/
22:32:18 <naphtha[m]> <scragglez[m]> "might have to hash it before" <- just base64 encode sir
22:32:23 <naphtha[m]> 100% secure encryption
22:32:38 <plowsof11> or you have to send an address to a friend? pgp encrypted with your pub key? no info on usecase / threat model so not sure what advice you need
22:32:41 <scragglez[m]> that's after changing the last letter
22:33:04 <comradeblin[m]> scragglez[m]: dont even consider b64, no use
22:33:16 <r4v3r23[m]1> <plowsof11> "maybe r4v3r23 could confirm?" <- fdroid
22:33:48 <plowsof11> tom: ^ can download mysu from fdroid
22:33:56 <scragglez[m]> alright, let's just make this easier, one of y'all give me an addr, I'll send the xmr there as well sending the addr I want it to go to
22:33:58 <scragglez[m]> deal?
22:34:14 <comradeblin[m]> I beleive ur joking
22:34:17 <comradeblin[m]> believe
22:34:25 <comradeblin[m]> but if not, I'd help if you want
22:34:32 <comradeblin[m]> ✌️
22:34:42 <scragglez[m]> only if you promise to double it and send it back
22:34:52 <comradeblin[m]> of course, i am elon mush
22:34:56 <comradeblin[m]> musk*
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22:35:59 <comradeblin[m]> 💀
22:36:18 <naphtha[m]> lol
22:36:37 <naphtha[m]> i miss mcafee
22:36:50 <scragglez[m]> same
22:37:01 <scragglez[m]> RIP 
22:37:06 <comradeblin[m]> this is specifically an elon mush doubler scam
22:37:41 <naphtha[m]> i always wonder how people fall for these scams
22:38:01 <comradeblin[m]> One explanation: IQ below 2 digits
22:38:08 <naphtha[m]> but especially after the atomic wallet "hack" nothing surprises me anymore
22:39:01 <comradeblin[m]> scragglez: why not just send us a subaddress and send ur crypto there?
22:39:20 <comradeblin[m]> pinky promise I wont send funds to it before you so you lose the ur money.
22:40:29 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Pinky promise makes the world go around
22:40:40 <naphtha[m]> at this point i think it'd be faster to just type the address manually
22:40:47 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Thats how css proposal works 
22:40:49 <comradeblin[m]> naphtha[m]: THIS!
22:41:28 <plowsof11> even a serpahis address would have been on paper if you started writing it 
22:41:37 <naphtha[m]> idea: link every monero account to a phone number
22:41:46 <naphtha[m]> it would make everything sooo much easier!
22:41:51 <comradeblin[m]> naphtha[m]: 💀
22:41:55 <naphtha[m]> even better, link it to your social security number
22:42:02 <comradeblin[m]> 💀
22:42:05 <naphtha[m]> that way there is no more fraud
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22:42:52 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Kyc sub address when
22:43:25 <comradeblin[m]> 97% of my address 💀
22:53:31 <ctrose010[m]> Send the last 3% to me, I can take good care of it ;)
22:54:23 <r4v3r23[m]1> whats a good service to use with libertyx?
22:54:32 <r4v3r23[m]1> it needs a phone number
22:56:04 <ctrose010[m]> Someone on Reddit made a phone number service. Let me see if I can find it for you.
22:56:11 <ctrose010[m]> It is in the Monero subreddit
22:56:23 <r4v3r23[m]1> thx
22:56:29 <plowsof11> should it be on monerica.com? 
22:57:35 <ctrose010[m]> It is called Phantom Phone by Anon Industries. They have a public test number so people can try it out. 
22:57:41 <ctrose010[m]> https://phantomphone.app/
23:00:00 <plowsof11> can you link a reddit thread / subreddit where it was mentioned? 
23:00:10 <ctrose010[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/14g7vjg/new_anonymous_phone_verification_service/
23:00:35 <plowsof11> ah thanks, from DGoon
23:00:44 <ctrose010[m]> Yeah
23:01:46 <plowsof11> https://github.com/monerica-project/monerica/issues/78 
23:01:48 <r4v3r23[m]1> has anyone used libertyx before to sell crypto?
23:02:52 <r4v3r23[m]1> do you only need a number to create the account, or do they send an sms for every order?
23:03:16 <ctrose010[m]> Like the crypto atm?
23:04:16 <r4v3r23[m]1> yeah
23:05:34 <ctrose010[m]> I would use Bisq
23:06:59 <r4v3r23[m]1> i need cash in peron
23:07:13 <ctrose010[m]> Are you trying to sell crypto
23:07:20 <r4v3r23[m]1> yes
23:07:29 <r4v3r23[m]1> local monero has no buyers in my area
23:07:44 <ctrose010[m]> If it is not urgent, I would use Bisq to keep private
23:08:08 <r4v3r23[m]1> i dont care what it is as long as its nokyc and cash
23:08:48 <Mrrowmeowmeow[m]> <naphtha[m]> "even better, link it to your..." <- You are already required to provide ID to get a phone number, they are basically the same thing 
23:08:48 <ctrose010[m]> Yeah, for Bisq you can do Cash by Mail, or a USPS Money Order (if you are in the US).
23:08:53 <ctrose010[m]> Cash by Mail is very popular
23:10:32 <r4v3r23[m]1> Mrrowmeowmeow[m]: not everywhere
23:11:45 <ctrose010[m]> Would you like me to send the link?
23:11:54 <r4v3r23[m]1> for what?
23:11:58 <ctrose010[m]> Bisq
23:12:04 <r4v3r23[m]1> i know bisq
23:12:12 <ctrose010[m]> Oh ok, cool!
23:12:13 <r4v3r23[m]1> not a fan of cash by mail tho
23:12:18 <r4v3r23[m]1> prefer local trades
23:12:39 <ctrose010[m]> That's true. You could do a Face to Face trade
23:13:29 <naphtha[m]> you could ask in the localmonero room maybe theres someone in your area willing to trade
23:13:45 <ctrose010[m]> If anything, you could try using a Google Voice phone number.
23:14:03 <ctrose010[m]> for LibertyX
23:31:36 <datafrag[m]> <ctrose010[m]> "It is called Phantom Phone by..." <- anon phone?? the fbi honeypot one?
23:33:02 <louissignet[m]> That's a different one. It was a hardware/android device
23:34:19 <datafrag[m]> still gives off fed energy though tbh
23:34:29 <datafrag[m]> gonna keep my distance on that one
23:35:49 <louissignet[m]> Nothing better than cash sims. But if push comes to shove, buy that shit online using monero but don't link it to your real identity
23:38:54 <naphtha[m]> <datafrag[m]> "anon phone?? the fbi honeypot..." <- that was anom