04:36:01 <TrasherDK[m]> <recanman[m]> "Screenshot 2023-07-08 at 12.16.2..." <- 121px ??? Do you have any idea what that looks like on a 2048px monitor?
06:20:43 <recanman[m]> I had to zoom out
12:12:15 <xfedex[m]> <recanman[m]> "Where's the one where you bet on..." <- monero dot win i presume
16:57:03 <tux> hey quick question, are there any legal implications for running a monero full node?
16:58:27 <tux> I just can't find a definitive legal answer
17:03:31 <JivanPal[m]> <tux> "hey quick question, are there..." <- As always, the law depends on where you are. At a minimum, you need to tell us what country you're in.
17:03:33 <compdec[m]> its cool.  first ammendment.
17:03:41 <tux> JivanPal[m]: Germany
17:03:52 <tux> which makes it even weirder because there are conflicting laws
17:03:56 <JivanPal[m]> compdec[m]: The UK says "what's a constitution?"
17:04:07 <ceetee[m]> Depends on the jurisdiction. In all western countries its not an issue, but if you are in a politically spicy environment you should consult someone who is familiar with local laws
17:04:23 <tux> ceetee[m]: the issue is whether your node runs illcit transactions
17:04:27 <JivanPal[m]> > In all western countries its not an issue
17:04:27 <JivanPal[m]> Don't be so sure.
17:04:33 <tux> or transactions that were used for illegal things
17:04:55 <tux> yes you as a node operatos aren't the focus but you could be charged for aiding the illegal activity 
17:05:16 <ceetee[m]> Germany is not an issue at all
17:05:22 <tux> ceetee[m]: what do you mean?
17:05:32 <ceetee[m]> A large share of nodes are hosted in germany
17:05:53 <tux> ceetee[m]: this sounds good already but I really need some law or passage 
17:06:00 <tux> sorry I am just this way haha
17:06:22 <ceetee[m]> there are no laws in Germany forbidding you to host a node
17:06:25 <JivanPal[m]> tux: In general, the answer for Germany seems to be "crypto is fine"
17:06:40 <JivanPal[m]> tux: Obviously these are illegal; it doesn't matter what currency you use to conduct them.
17:06:50 <tux> sure but there is GwG an anti-money laundering law that could mingle you as aiding the illcit activity 
17:07:22 <tux> but I am not Saul Goodman so I don't really know if what I'm saying or understanding is really true 
17:07:25 <JivanPal[m]> Wikipedia has a nice summary article, I would point you to the references therein if you want more details or specific legslation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cryptocurrency_by_country_or_territory#Germany
17:07:39 <JivanPal[m]> tux: Okay, so don't launder money
17:08:07 <tux> JivanPal[m]: thank you I will read it. Regarding money laundring I certainly won't haha but people using my node might and that is the issue
17:08:21 <JivanPal[m]> Such implications happen with fiat all the time, too. For examples, thousands of international students get implicated in money laundering scams.
17:08:28 <ceetee[m]> tux: you are not involved in 3rd party transactions at all, meaning you don't have any influence or knowledge about what is happening
17:09:16 <JivanPal[m]> tux: Crypto users don't use specific nodes.
17:09:18 <JivanPal[m]> The nodes collectively form a network, and users use the network.
17:09:42 <tux> thank you both, really thank you, I will read through the wikipedia reference links, that's what I was looking for. Thanks again!
17:09:54 <JivanPal[m]> s/examples/example/
21:15:28 <TrasherDK[m]> <tux> "or transactions that were used..." <- If that's the case, blacklist the offending addresses 😂
23:46:35 <d34d8its[m]> Any alternatives to xmr.to? Or anywhere to buy prepaid visa/mc with xmr?
23:49:52 <plowsof11> kycnot.me for exchanges and what not, and monerica.com has producs/services which accept Monero + other cryptos as payment. seek "Giftcards/ Pre-Paid Cards"
23:50:34 <plowsof11> (maybe there are sellers on Localmonero offering what you need)