00:55:11 <bridgerton[m]> <elonmusk1767> What are you
00:55:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> A bot
01:02:35 <bridgerton[m]> <elonmusk1767> I see
01:02:49 <bridgerton[m]> <elonmusk1767> It looks like you just talk to yourself a lot
01:29:05 <bridgerton[m]> <elonmusk1767> Do you need a friend ?
01:34:02 <bridgerton[m]> <patchy319> @elonmusk1767 These channels are bridged to matrix, so a lot of people lack pfp
02:00:50 <bridgerton[m]> <elonmusk1767> Oh ok
06:21:20 <xmrlover[m]> I'm soooo tired bruh 😭
06:32:26 <bridgerton[m]> <orthowipez> Huh
06:38:04 <xmrlover[m]> Be quiet 🤫
06:38:46 <bridgerton[m]> <orthowipez> No
08:58:57 <agentsmith09[m]> guys how manu GB is the testnet blockchain?
08:58:57 <agentsmith09[m]> it's normal that transaction on stagenet blockchain don't get confirmations? i'm having some problem couse when i send transaction it doesnt' get confrirmation and after being on pending it goes to OUT but 0 XMR...so i'm thinking in work on testnet instead of stagenet
08:59:20 <agentsmith09[m]>  * guys how many GB is the testnet blockchain?
08:59:20 <agentsmith09[m]> it's normal that transaction on stagenet blockchain don't get confirmations?
08:59:20 <agentsmith09[m]>  i'm having some problem couse when i send transaction it doesnt' get confrirmation and after being on pending it goes to OUT but 0 XMR...so i'm thinking in work on testnet instead of stagenet
09:28:48 <TrasherDK[m]> How much hashrate have you deployed on stagenet?
09:29:31 <merope> Maybe nobody is mining it at all, try enabling mining on your node
09:30:46 <merope> (And make sure you're not mining with a very high hashrate, to keep difficulty low)
09:31:41 <MajesticBank> there is also this
09:31:45 <MajesticBank> https://community.rino.io/faucet/testnet/
09:31:54 <MajesticBank> https://community.rino.io/faucet/stagenet/
09:34:19 <TrasherDK[m]> How is that faucet going to work out, if his problem is blocks not getting mined?
09:36:37 <MajesticBank> Just left it, if someone consider to mine some coins as Rino team did it,  might speed up testing process / getting those coins
09:38:51 <plowsof11> last time i looked testnet had less hashrate / easier to mine coins 
10:16:55 <M0xffc[m]>  Are we compatible with LGPL? How about GPL? 
10:27:52 <M0xffc[m]> https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/1640/if-im-using-a-gpl-3-library-in-my-project-can-i-license-my-project-under-mit-l
10:55:09 <gingeropolous> successful bin plop of current master on xmrchain. always nice when the xmrblocks binary just keeps running
10:58:04 <nioc> ty
11:02:14 <gingeropolous> ... and its been up on my mining node for a week.
11:12:33 <sech1> And https://p2pool.io/explorer/ is running latest release-v0.18 branch
11:12:35 <sech1> also no issues
12:27:36 <gingeropolous> release branch, as in the latest release? 
12:32:31 <sech1> yes
12:33:00 <sech1> built from https://github.com/monero-project/monero/commits/release-v0.18
12:33:31 <sech1> from commit ab826008d
12:36:20 <agentsmith09[m]> <TrasherDK[m]> "How much hashrate have you..." <- i depoly 1.6 kH/s, not mining
12:36:20 <agentsmith09[m]> now i retry mining and tell you
12:38:21 <agentsmith09[m]> <merope> "Maybe nobody is mining it at all..." <- i tried the python script while mining on monerod but still get problems, transaction go to pending, then go to out 0 xmr and none xmr sent
12:38:21 <agentsmith09[m]> i i retry python scripto with  deamon mining ON
12:40:06 <TrasherDK[m]> I'd start with monero-wallet-cli sending a tx, making sure your setup is actually working.
12:41:13 <merope> You could also just run xmrig on one (or a few) core(s) and point it at the node 
12:41:26 <merope> Without having to make changes to any script
12:41:40 <agentsmith09[m]> TrasherDK[m]: ok i will try
12:42:43 <agentsmith09[m]> TrasherDK[m]: i will try
12:43:58 <moneroid[m]> hello people. i have a well-known problem here which i don't see a proper solution to, "Transaction spends more than one very old output."
12:43:59 <moneroid[m]> see, i have multiple unspent txes which i kinda want to use. say, 4 xmr and 3 xmr, but i need to send 5 xmr. i can sweep_single but this would still result in two utxo and i have to merge them later on. how is using both of "new" utxo of same amounts different from using both of them as-is right now?
12:44:12 <agentsmith09[m]> merope: i used start_mining on morerod
12:44:12 <agentsmith09[m]> yesterday was working and also found some blocks..but still have the transaction going to 0 while mining
12:44:12 <agentsmith09[m]> today i cant mine dunno why but i will retry
12:45:16 <TrasherDK[m]> agentsmith09: It's not lack of hash-rate that's causing you problems. `stagenet` has enough to mine blocks.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/bf6e91b5ce80445a79258576c18297450d0d0f89>)
12:46:40 <TrasherDK[m]> I was mining blocks with 200 H/s 😂
12:48:07 <sech1> moneroid[m] it just warns you that you're spending old outputs, it should still work
12:48:58 <merope> TrasherDK[m]: > <@trasherdk:monero.social> agentsmith09: It's not lack of hash-rate that's causing you problems. `stagenet` has enough to mine blocks.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/4381892a06a80ca0bf80dfe76b1c0a98628a1c36>)
13:00:09 <TrasherDK[m]> It does indicate that some hashrate is deployed.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/836855ae719c8c6c9d942362d3f3cd44734756cd>)
13:38:49 <moneroid[m]> <sech1> "moneroid it just warns you..." <- no, it literally says right there "Privacy would be better if they were sent separately."
13:39:25 <sech1> it's a warning
13:39:36 <sech1> it doesn't stop you
13:39:55 <moneroid[m]> there's gotta be some explanation and advice for this on getmonero.org but there isn't any
13:40:39 <merope> <TrasherDK[m]> "It does indicate that some..." <- > <@trasherdk:monero.social> It does indicate that some hashrate is deployed.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/f71c5433e7739c32bc69e8a01f2940605114d634>)
13:41:52 <TrasherDK[m]> I know. I was the one typing print_pool_stats in the terminal 🤣
13:43:44 <merope> Not sure what's the connection with "it does indicate that some hashrate is deployed" then 🤔
13:45:30 <TrasherDK[m]> The previous `it's not representative of the "real" active hashrate`
13:49:38 <moneroid[m]> <sech1> "it doesn't stop you" <- i know it doesn't but there's a reason for that to be printed. and supposedly there's a better way, for example, incoming_transfers + sweep_single, but that still doesn't explain at all why merging two or more "swept" outputs from more recent blocks is better or worse than from older blocks. in both cases you clearly see both(or more) being merged, no?
13:58:58 <sech1> two recent outputs are more likely to appear together, two old outputs stand out more
14:01:34 <moneroid[m]> somewhat makes sense. so keeping utxo in constant movement(sweeps between own addresses) pretty much like dash used to(or still does) is a good idea? i understand there's no such builtin feature in monero-wallet-cli now?
14:06:35 <merope> Some periodic churning of utxos might(*) make things appear "more random", but there's no need to go overboard
14:07:24 <merope> In fact, doing that without really understanding the effects of it might actively harm your privacy more than doing nothing 
14:07:50 <moneroid[m]> i've read somewhere those "big bros" are able to trace 99% of monero
14:08:26 <merope> Not sure where you've read that, but it's likely to be wrong 
14:10:02 <merope> Plenty have thrown around such claims, yet no compelling evidence has been shown so far 
14:20:31 <moneroid[m]> okay thanks
14:21:53 <moneroid[m]> im running several public monero nodes as a gratitude to the project. so much less resources to run it vs any of ethereum-like networks
14:22:25 <moneroid[m]> or even btc-like networks
14:32:34 <moneroid[m]> in the past i tried running tor exit nodes with some restricted outbound port list, they all got killed
14:32:47 <moneroid[m]> as much as i wanted to help tor, i tried doing that multiple times
14:33:10 <moneroid[m]> all on bots that were online with uptime of way over 100 days
14:33:52 <moneroid[m]> they all got annihilated
14:33:52 <moneroid[m]> in multiple countries
14:34:30 <moneroid[m]> one or two lasted about a month and were shut down. obviously i did my best to hide the process, didn't help. probably everyone got a call or letter from ISP
14:34:49 <moneroid[m]> now only trump tower runs tor nodes
14:35:01 <moneroid[m]> and few others, very closely watched probably
14:35:09 <moneroid[m]> *exit nodes i mean
14:35:32 <moneroid[m]> glad monero never causes troubles, those i run on my own servers
15:04:51 <xfedex[m]> i2p > tor
15:05:03 <xfedex[m]> there are no exit nodes in I2P
15:05:18 <xfedex[m]> and everybody runs their own node
15:28:06 <merope> <xfedex[m]> "there are no exit nodes in I2P" <- technically there are (they're called outproxies), but they're not what i2p is designed for
15:29:49 <merope> they just happen to be something you can do with any i2p router (i.e. running a proxy that can be pointed to anything on the clearnet, and pointing an eepsite to it)
15:50:06 <edge7[m]> <moneroid[m]> "im running several public monero..." <- Do you have any vps cheap to use for doing the same?
16:28:13 <M0xffc[m]> How cool is this library https://www.ginac.de/tutorial/
16:28:13 <M0xffc[m]> Symbolic mathematics in C++
16:38:19 <azerx> Hi guys, finally able to join the real monero chat :)
16:39:10 <azerx> anyone can help me with mirc though, when i have my vpn on it can not connect, it gives ....SASL authentication failed
16:41:37 <RavFX> I have no problem using mirc on my old 486, also running on a VPN. But I did not know IRC used SASL, You login with nickserv right?
16:42:37 <azerx> i use the SASL in the option
16:42:56 <azerx> i read about this nickserv but not sure what i do with it, i follow the guide here: https://libera.chat/guides/mirc
16:45:29 <RavFX> Ah yeah, my version if mirc is too old for that lol. Could it be something related to time difference (you have a time difference between youre location localtime and the VPN location localtime. AFAIK clocks have to be in sync plus or less for SASL to work.
16:46:23 <azerx> hmm actually in dropdown there is both SASL and another option called nickserv :) 
16:46:30 <azerx> can try, one sec
16:51:42 <azerx> meh sadly it dont work with the vpn on :(
16:58:57 <RavFX> what vpn is that. it's MITM susy
18:10:41 <azerx> RavFX ProtonVPN
18:11:17 <RavFX> There free VPN?
18:12:10 <azerx> no payed version
18:12:50 <RavFX> Imm, can't say. But I still say it's weird you're problem
18:15:45 <azerx> I edit the server and only set to Login method: SASL (/CAP)
18:15:52 <azerx> Everything else empty/default
18:19:03 <azerx> hmm i see on the Connect->local->Host name will not be correct when using VPN, maybe that is one reason
18:20:33 <RavFX> could be that, maybe. Still I have no issue while using VPN even if I hop to different vpn in my vpn array
18:21:30 <azerx> what is your setting there?
18:21:57 <azerx> is it possible to send screenshot? been ages i used mirc :D
18:22:47 <RavFX> My setup is nonstandard as I use 30 years old computer for IRC and do extra shenanigans to get it to work with TLS
18:23:28 <RavFX> to make it simple, I connect to IRC using localhost as the server. and for the login, I did make a script that do it for me, login and joining all the rooms
18:23:46 <RavFX> Maybe we should go to #monero-offtopic to continue the discution
18:24:13 <azerx> good idean, thanks for the help! 
20:00:57 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero Issue 179: July 13 - 20, 2023. https://revuo-xmr.com/issue-179.html