01:16:54 <ShaneonConduitrs> What happened that i am getting 1 min confirmation for XMR transaction set at x5 fee o_o
01:18:49 <nioc> blocks average 2 minutes but can be anywhere from 1 second to many minutes 
01:19:04 <nioc> there is no need to use a 5x fee
01:19:44 <nioc> a tx with the lowest fee will be included in the next block 99% of the time
01:20:25 <ShaneonConduitrs> i know but it's usually like 10+ min this time it was like instant 🤔
01:20:35 <ShaneonConduitrs> though that someone did something to monero to speed that up
01:55:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> Nah, stuff like this
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08:30:12 <edge7[m]> Now it is real summer 
08:31:25 <Tanvir[m]> wah
08:48:43 <Monerochad[m]> Monero slippers 😭
09:17:04 <gxanine[m]> <edge7[m]> "20230731_102857_8109347705907392..." <- where did you get them from? 🤔
09:17:57 <gxanine[m]> Nevermind. Found them on moneromerch.com
09:18:20 <recanman[m]> They do have new stuff
09:19:43 <Monerochad[m]> Next goal is get myself a monerochan doll before it's outta stock and get some monero stickers to stick them around California to spread the word of monero. 🧃😊
09:20:04 <recanman[m]> Monerochad[m]: monerosupplies.net
09:20:12 <recanman[m]> > <@monerochad.:matrix.org> Next goal is get myself a monerochan doll before it's outta stock and get some monero stickers to stick them around California to spread the word of monero. 🧃😊
09:20:13 <recanman[m]>  * monerosupplies.com
09:23:22 <monerobull[m]> Monerochad[m]: 71 are gone
09:23:37 <recanman[m]> Wow
09:23:50 <recanman[m]> I wanted to purchase one but it is (reasonably) expensive
09:23:55 <Monerochad[m]> How many are left 😭
09:24:01 <monerobull[m]> 29
09:24:09 <recanman[m]> 29?
09:24:11 <monerobull[m]> But the quality will get worse with the last few
09:24:22 <recanman[m]> monerobull[m]: What? Why?
09:24:22 <monerobull[m]> Since I've tried to always send out the best looking ones
09:24:44 <recanman[m]> How much do they cost to produce?
09:25:20 <monerobull[m]> I have 2 special editions lol. Both missing the black cloth on the arm, one on the left, one on the right 
09:25:54 <monerobull[m]> recanman[m]: Trade secret 🫣
09:25:54 <recanman[m]> I mean, it is a stuffed doll after all, the only use to me would be spreading Monero propaganda
09:26:26 <recanman[m]> recanman[m]: I only do that with the stickers, but I don't think one would understand if I explain that an anime girl will help us with our financial privacy
09:26:28 <monerobull[m]> And a loving little companion 
09:26:53 <Monerochad[m]> Indeed time to order I just want one lmfao 🤣
09:27:54 <monerobull[m]> Monerochad: nice profile picture, is that one of the ones I made or did you edit it yourself?
09:29:05 <Monerochad[m]> Not sure I love it though 😭it's neat. Either way it's amazing. I found them on a mega link. 
09:29:23 <monerobull[m]> Ah ok
09:29:55 <monerobull[m]> If I still have the gimp file I can swap the background to the blurry one if you want
09:30:37 <Monerochad[m]> Dude if you can that would mean a lot. ❤️‍🔥
09:31:50 <Monerochad[m]> Hello 👋 superbblue 
09:32:05 <Superbblue> o/
11:21:15 <spirobel[m]> <recanman[m]> "I only do that with the stickers..." <- no need to explain the obvious.
11:21:29 <recanman[m]> spirobel[m]: Thank you
11:21:45 <recanman[m]> > <@spirobel:monero.social> no need to explain the obvious.
11:21:45 <recanman[m]>  * Thank you, but I was joking. Sorry if I did not point it out 
11:21:50 <recanman[m]> * financial privacy (I am joking)
11:21:54 <spirobel[m]> many people in the Monero community dont understand the importance of Monerochan. 
11:22:39 <recanman[m]> I guess I don't understand, what is the specific importance?
11:22:46 <recanman[m]> * specific importance that you are talking about?
11:23:19 <spirobel[m]> If you need to ask there is no point in explaining it to you. 
11:23:44 <recanman[m]> Maybe this is why "many people in the Monero community dont understand the importance of Monerochan."
11:24:25 <spirobel[m]> nobody cares about CBDC the government, taxes, the darknet markets and all this other BS. We are all just here because of Monerochan. 
11:24:44 <recanman[m]> Really? I don't agree
11:25:08 <spirobel[m]> This is not a matter of opinions. And also: no one asked. 
11:25:26 <spirobel[m]> It is a fact.
11:25:32 <recanman[m]> >This is not a matter of opinions.
11:25:32 <recanman[m]> You gave me two opinions just now
11:25:40 <recanman[m]>  * > This is not a matter of opinions.
11:25:40 <recanman[m]> You gave me two opinions just now
11:26:18 <recanman[m]> spirobel[m]: Looks like you may be wrong, I generally oppose too much financial regulation, and I like financial privacy, so I use Monero. Seems there is at least one person
11:26:25 <recanman[m]> > <@spirobel:monero.social> It is a fact.
11:26:26 <recanman[m]>  * Looks like you may be wrong, I generally oppose an abundance of much financial regulation, and I like financial privacy, so I use Monero. Seems there is at least one person
11:26:28 <recanman[m]>  * Looks like you may be wrong, I generally oppose an abundance of financial regulation, and I like financial privacy, so I use Monero. Seems there is at least one person
11:26:42 <recanman[m]>  * Looks like you may be wrong, I generally oppose an abundance of financial regulation, and I like financial privacy, so I use Monero. Seems there is at least one person who isn't here for Monerochan
11:27:10 <spirobel[m]> 0
11:27:55 <recanman[m]> I'm not sure how to respond
11:28:24 <recanman[m]> I clearly outlined the invalidity of your claim, but you are still insisting on saying you are correct
11:28:44 <spirobel[m]> recanman[m]: because you are an AI language model?
11:28:45 <recanman[m]> No, I am a real person
11:28:59 <recanman[m]> What's so funny?
11:29:27 <recanman[m]> What would you like as a "verification" of some sorts, I'm not willing to send a picture or anything like that
11:29:40 <recanman[m]> https://pastebin.com/EeTnRNWL
11:31:21 <recanman[m]> I will be back soon, we will continue our argument, debate, whatever it is
11:32:46 <recanman[m]> LocalMonero can vouch for me being a real human, I submit a weekly article for [The Monero Standard](https://localmonero.co/nojs/the-monero-standard)
11:34:15 <spirobel[m]> recanman[m]: no. I dont want to have a debate with chatgpt if it is a real human being or not. You will never be a "real person". We are all just here for Monerochan.
11:52:51 <Monerochad[m]> <Monerochad[m]> "Hello 👋 superbblue..." <- Thanks a lot for the Gimp file it means a lot. You are the best. 👍💙
11:53:26 <recanman[m]> <spirobel[m]> "no. I dont want to have a debate..." <- I am back, if you don't want to continue it, that is ok
11:53:27 <Monerochad[m]> Hm
11:53:54 <Superbblue> Monerochad[m], wat?
11:55:04 <Monerochad[m]> Hello 👋
12:35:45 <Stnby[m]> Jesus Christ, ChangeNow does not understand how Monero transactions work
12:36:53 <Stnby[m]> They asking me to record wallet with a phone and show TX details (They have no idea what TX keys are) or send dust transaction (which would not work because of stealth addresses)
12:37:13 <recanman[m]> Stnby[m]: Record wallet with a phone?
12:37:32 <recanman[m]> Send them a youtube link to a monero tutorial 😄
12:37:38 <recanman[m]> s/😄/😆/
12:37:40 <Stnby[m]> I kindly ask you to verify this address via a video recording.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/fb09fb3292441648d1afad348688a821a57c3bc5>)
12:38:01 <Stnby[m]> I responded with:
12:38:01 <Stnby[m]> I am a bit confused about the steps. I used Monero -> BNB exchange. Can I just send the TX ID and the TX Key. Which should be enough information to prove that I made that transaction.
12:38:18 <Stnby[m]> Unfortunately, we would either need a video or a dust transaction from you to prove the address is yours
12:38:22 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> https://trocador.app/en/. ? 
12:38:26 <recanman[m]> Stnby[m]: > <@stnby:kernal.eu> I kindly ask you to verify this address via a video recording.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/e9c2fabba1b25b2b365956cc855583bd2a4aa653>)
12:38:31 <Stnby[m]> I responded with:
12:38:31 <Stnby[m]> I am confused about the steps. I need to prove that I own which address? Because I used Monero you don't have my Monero address. https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/stealthaddress.html The way I can prove that I made the transaction is by providing you with my TX Key. Is there something I don't understand?
12:38:57 <Stnby[m]> In such cases, our protocol requires our clients to show, that a transaction in question was created by them. So you need to show your wallet, where this transaction is visible
12:39:10 <Stnby[m]> recanman[m]: I know.
12:39:20 <Stnby[m]> I will go steal money now from all Monero swaps
12:39:58 <Stnby[m]> By sending fake videos of bash script replicating cli wallet output
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12:42:53 <recanman[m]> Thankfully I've never had to deal with these things
12:42:59 <recanman[m]> If you can get your coins out of there, use Trocador
12:43:02 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Bot exploded
12:43:23 <Stnby[m]> I am loosing my brain cells
12:43:46 <recanman[m]> I can tell, you used "loosing" 😃
12:43:55 <recanman[m]> * used "loosing" instead of "losing" 😃
12:44:10 <Stnby[m]> s/loosing/losing/
12:44:42 <Stnby[m]> Imagine someone trying to make dust transaction to prove a monero payment. Different from address each time
12:45:52 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> I’ve had where i have put an address from a swap service they froze the transaction and said please verify
12:45:53 <Siren[m]> <Stnby[m]> "In such cases, our protocol..." <- you gave them tx key and they have the receiving address since they are the recipient so that should be enough but they're apes
12:46:15 <recanman[m]> That's all you need, just tx private key
12:46:54 <recanman[m]> Make an OutProof and tell them this proves the transaction and confuse them even more
12:48:28 <Siren[m]> Never shop at places that use coingate. We had to swap monero for bsc which was apparently suspended but the monkeys at coingate listed it as accepted anyway.
12:49:29 <recanman[m]> "Strong partnerships: Elliptic"
12:49:38 <recanman[m]> (blockchain analysis company)
12:50:06 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: they think crypto = token 
12:50:10 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Chain anal
12:50:13 <Siren[m]> LMAO
12:51:04 <Stnby[m]> I sent:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/27416783ccb526ad40afcb2cfe1998179d0ebd20>)
12:51:17 <Stnby[m]> I got:
12:51:17 <Stnby[m]> Let me consult our team to see if we can use this method.
12:51:30 <Stnby[m]> I hope their team has someone who has heard of Monero
12:51:34 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Escalating to irs
12:51:38 <recanman[m]> Good luck if you get anywhere other than the outsourced third-world workers
12:51:53 <recanman[m]> DanrdarkIsnotthe: Kek, very funny
12:52:12 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> They just read off a screen
12:52:14 <Stnby[m]> I hope I am the cause of them fixing the verification for Monero cuz this is comedy
12:52:32 <recanman[m]> I doubt that they will
12:52:33 <recanman[m]> Maybe
12:52:43 <Stnby[m]> DanrdarkIsnotthe: When they figure out Monero has private transactions they will drop it
12:52:58 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Create a github issue
12:53:20 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> TLDR learn how monero works
12:53:21 <Stnby[m]> getmonero homepage should say in bold how to prove transactions
12:53:31 <Siren[m]> DanrdarkIsnotthe: Block explorer at localmonero has prove payment section
12:53:36 <Siren[m]> I hope they can read that much
12:53:43 <Stnby[m]> And this page scares even me
12:53:43 <Stnby[m]> https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/prove-payment.html
12:53:58 <Stnby[m]> Dude I just want to prove a monero transaction. Not how to use a terminal
12:53:59 <recanman[m]> Stnby[m]: > <@stnby:kernal.eu> And this page scares even me
12:53:59 <recanman[m]> > https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/prove-payment.html
12:53:59 <recanman[m]> Why is that?
12:54:32 <recanman[m]> That is just for setting tx history
12:54:35 <Siren[m]> recanman[m]: Tech support at exchanges/swapping services/gateways are too incompetent to prove payments this way
12:54:37 <recanman[m]> Just use the monero-wallet-gui
12:55:04 <recanman[m]> Siren[m]: He is saying that is scares him though
12:55:35 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Tell them RTFM
12:56:01 <Siren[m]> recanman[m]: cli is spooky for him I guess
12:56:29 <recanman[m]> I don't think so
12:56:37 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Rm -rf monero.wallet
12:56:39 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> * Rm monero.wallet
12:56:44 <recanman[m]> I read the posts on kernal.eu yesterday, he has some posts where he uses the CLI by him
12:57:23 <Siren[m]> He has sustained brain damage lately from having to deal with changenow
12:57:35 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> I’ll like the account name in that guide
12:58:07 <recanman[m]> "Dad's account"?
12:58:23 <Stnby[m]> https://support.changenow.io/hc/en-us/article_attachments/360014717019/Guide__Proof_of_ownership_of_Monero_deposits_.pdf
12:58:31 <Stnby[m]> Siren: Deal with this
12:59:34 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Mum and dad’s account
13:00:34 <DanrdarkIsnotthe> Lol install guide too
13:32:27 <DataHoarder> https://matrix.org/blog/2023/07/bridges-security-updates/ < no idea if Monero.social needs to upgrade but here it is
14:03:37 <spirobel[m]> <anarkiocrypt> "I was looking for a cheap..." <- speaking of which: I read a few different wallet sync implementations. They all use different end points and often mix the block / transactions / output processing code with the fetching of the data. There is no clear documentation on this. So it is absolutely right to just use your own intuition on how to approach this problem and optimize the code. I think its great that you are making
14:03:37 <spirobel[m]> progress on this. We should make a retroactive CCS for kuno and bitejo. It clearly offers value to the community.
14:03:52 <spirobel[m]> * on this. Also: We should
14:07:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> Anark wont accept money
14:09:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hence recanman: 's proposal
14:18:15 <anarkiocrypto[m]> I am just trying to write something that doesn't require a full or pruned node. Regular get_blocks from the Onion Blockchain Explorer or the RPC only fetches the TXIDs, which means 1 API call for the block and 20~ API calls to get each TX. But get_blocks.bin and get_blocks_by_height.bin include the block's transactions, so it's only 1 API call, but it must be deserialized from binary (was able to write PHP code to do this).
14:19:21 <anarkiocrypto[m]> Recanman would be able to write better code and a better platform than me, but sadly his CCS is unmerged since 1~ month, so it seems there is low demand for Bitejo (neither in PHP nor in Node.js).
14:26:34 <ShaneonConduitrs> MajesticExchange: hey tried to use majestic exchange yesterday, but it can't do: I want X BTC so calculate how much XMR do i have to pay
14:34:07 <MajesticBank> ShaneonConduitrs: hi, fixed rate is available in stackwallet, elitewallet or from telegram bot
14:34:45 <MajesticBank> links are listed on site a bit below the top
14:36:00 <ShaneonConduitrs> Meh i want to do that from the web so that i can use it instead of fixed float
14:36:28 <ShaneonConduitrs> meaning fixedfloat.com
14:37:41 <spirobel[m]> <anarkiocrypto[m]> "Recanman would be able to..." <- No. There is tons of listings on bitejo and people like kuno. So its clear there is demand for it. What there is no demand for though: a rewrite of the same thing by someone else. You did the work so you should be rewarded for it and not recanman. 
14:41:28 <anarkiocrypto[m]> Bitejo's code is low quality. Recanman is a more professional and capable programmer than I am. And I was not able to make Bitejo popular since its release in 2021, I don't have the social skills, marketing skills or business skills for that, and I can't network/go on podcasts/visit conferences under this username (and most Bitcoin/Monero platforms spread by word of mouth and connections). I just don't have the required skills.
14:41:49 <anarkiocrypto[m]> If people would be interested in Bitejo, they would have merged and funded Recanman's CCS by now.
14:42:53 <anarkiocrypto[m]> Hopefully his Monero Integrations CCS will be merged. Many people use Monero Integrations (e.g. the WooCommerce plugin) and it seems like Serhack is open to someone taking over the maintenance.
14:45:36 <MajesticBank> ShaneonConduitrs: there is python-cli with fixed rate support also
14:48:30 <plowsof11> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/402
15:11:32 <nioc> https://ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required/
16:06:08 <M0xffc[m]> Quick question , what is the size of data.mdb for testnet? 
16:06:40 <M0xffc[m]> (at the moment, approximately) 
16:20:38 <edge7[m]> <nioc> "https://ccs.getmonero.org/..." <- What happens if the threshold is not reached? 
16:21:11 <nioc> the work does not get done
16:31:29 <plowsof11> Is it about 10GB? http://node.monerodevs.org:28089/get_info
16:34:45 <M0xffc[m]> plowsof:  thanks. 
16:45:04 <agentsmith09[m]> Hello everyone
16:45:04 <agentsmith09[m]> Anybody know a place where host a python flask web app interacting with Monero rpc?
16:45:04 <agentsmith09[m]> I tried python anywhere, flask works but can't connect with Monero rpc running in terminal... So it's useless 
17:33:48 <Rucknium[m]> edge7: "If it's not funded or finished by a certain time, the funds can be released to other proposals or the General Fund." https://ccs.getmonero.org/how-to-ccs/
17:34:02 <Rucknium[m]> AFAIK, that has never happened before
18:30:59 <lza_menace> agentsmith09: any datacenter, VPS, or cloud infrastructure provider. DigitalOcean, Heroku, Hetzner, OVH, GCP, Azure, AWS, etc etc etc
18:43:29 <agentsmith09[m]> <lza_menace> "agentsmith09: any datacenter..." <- Right.. I will check those in the list
18:43:29 <agentsmith09[m]> Any of these is sure to support Monero rpc?
18:43:29 <agentsmith09[m]> Also, iza menace, you are famous ;) 
18:51:59 <lza_menace> i am?