11:54:19 <azerx> I have 2 "issue" or maybe bugs i want to check with you guys if i should report....
11:55:06 <azerx> 1) now that my node is finally synced i send a small tx to myself from exchange and it did not appear in the wallet even after 1 confirm....i restarted the wallet and i poped up! is that normal? 
11:56:42 <azerx> 2) when i have the gui wallet open my screen keeps sort of doing these flickering, like the refresh rate change or something that is noticable.... This is only happening when i have teh wallet visible i think
12:31:58 <selsta> azerx: which operating system are you using?
12:43:11 <azerx> Win11 x64, highend pc ...
13:39:52 <selsta> azerx: can you try to start low-graphics-mode.bat ?
14:22:03 <azerx> Sure i can ...testing a bit more it seems this happens when i recently started the wallet or when it does something in background...it was stable just now and i shutdown the wallet and restarted and it came back....one other funny thing is that monero is time to time not even showing in task manager of windows! Isn't that odd? i search and nothing 
14:24:50 <azerx> See this screenshot https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ag9C_L5-r1Cxifxl7Lx1bvw7EfDtqw?e=7TJaWG
14:26:06 <azerx> btw my GPU is 4090 so it should not have issue with graphic ....
14:29:36 <Rucknium[m]> azerx: Is Windows killing the process? Sometimes Windows thinks monero is malware since malicious covert XMR miners exist.
14:35:19 <selsta> azerx: I didn't mean to imply that your GPU is too weak lol just trying to isolate the issue
14:35:40 <selsta> something is off, all these issues you are mentioning are not normal
14:37:01 <selsta> are you running a insider version of Windows?
14:57:50 <Rucknium[m]> 0xffc: There is a MoneroKon 2019 presentation on reforming wallet2 IIRC
14:58:00 <Rucknium[m]> Status: Still not reformed :P
14:58:52 <Rucknium[m]> People don't like to write docs. The code changes so much over the years, too
15:00:02 <Rucknium[m]> There is Mastering Monero and Zero to Monero 2.0 . They are both out of date, the former more than the latter
15:32:17 <azerx> selsta: no windows is not killing the app, if you see the image wallet is running side by side of task manager :) 
15:32:36 <azerx> And no i run the zip version, always 
15:34:31 <azerx> and task manager shows it now, but that is not the case all the time, maybe also when i restart the wallet in the first few minute, still odd, let me try the low gpu thing
15:38:19 <selsta> the process not showing up in the task manager sounds like a windows bug
15:38:53 <azerx> yeah perhaps, i can't even find it in the list of processes and then it suddently shows....
15:39:21 <azerx> i have just win anti virus nothing special + excluded the whole folder with monero
15:39:48 <azerx> the start-low-graphics-mode seem to help with the flickering with this little test so far
15:40:47 <selsta> do you have the latest version of your graphics drivers installed?
15:40:48 <azerx> whats the difference using the bat file? looks low resolution :)
15:41:14 <selsta> low-graphics-mode uses software rendering, the normal version renders using your graphics drivers with opengl
15:41:35 <azerx> pretty much yeah, nvidia 536.40
15:45:54 <azerx> thanks for info
17:42:38 <droid192> what you guys think of ERGO? https://twitter.com/mahatma_crypto/status/1685908153433493504/photo/1
17:43:21 <droid192> they recently enabled nipopows on mainnet
17:43:42 <droid192>  * what you guys think of ERGO as a foundation layer for privacy protocols https://twitter.com/mahatma_crypto/status/1685908153433493504/photo/1
17:46:30 <chesterfield[m]> Let me guess… a link to a chart where ergo has all green checkboxes and Monero and other protocols all have at least one red X
17:46:45 <recanman[m]> Yes
17:47:11 <chesterfield[m]> If it’s not a 10x improvement on Monero from user perspective, it’s a nothingburger
17:47:23 <chesterfield[m]> Nipplepows does sound nice though
17:47:36 <droid192> chesterfield[m]: that is the question chester... they know their stuff; 
17:48:15 <droid192> i now the basics but not the crypto for privacy 
17:48:30 <droid192> s/now/know/
17:48:32 <chesterfield[m]> Tell me what makes it 10x better.  Some minor tech improvement is meaningless.  Does it get rid of scanning, can it be 10x more decentralized
17:50:52 <chesterfield[m]> Doesn’t bch do something similar?
18:34:08 <SNeedlewoods> is it bad though, that monero doesn't have "Non-monotonic UTXO set" or "Non-generic NIZKs"? I haven't looked into what those mean
18:47:40 <chesterfield[m]> Any coin with one of those comparison charts goes right into the brain dumpster for me.  I’m not buying your onlyfans and your coin doesn’t have default privacy.
18:52:30 <hv-bridge> <the_forlorn_hdd_farmer> Every privacy chain can’t and shouldn’t use every obfuscation method concurrently - I’d be silly at best but probably also unusable.
19:09:32 <Rucknium[m]> SNeedlewoods: "Non-monotonic UTXO set" looks like it means coins are going into and out of the privacy protocol. I don't think there is any argument out there that says doing that increases user privacy. Looks like it's a blockchain database size feature.
19:23:22 <rbrunner> Took the latest Ergo block, with 11 transactions: Seems *all* 11 are not of the private sort - addresses and amounts visible. Solid.
19:23:25 <rbrunner> https://explorer.ergoplatform.com/en/blocks/6af5cc7327e2f3cfbe9b87fc8042bc70d8729a3d8fa32eb12551778f70180bc1/transactions
19:31:10 <SNeedlewoods> thanks for clarifying Rucknium[m] 
20:44:19 <wrightpt1[m]> anyone know the difference between monerod.conf and bitmonero.conf?
20:45:41 <wrightpt1[m]> its when utilzing the cli in linux. 
22:59:12 <gingeropolous> great. i updated element and now it won't open
22:59:16 <gingeropolous> why do i update software
22:59:20 <gingeropolous> working software. blargh.