05:04:45 <recanman[m]> Ouch
05:37:52 <Tanvir[m]> <TrasherDK[m]> "Element Installer severely..." <- discuss about it in element room, ig?
12:44:19 <Stnby[m]> ChangeNow adventures continue...... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/7830a39760d1a29df5c486933296941488d9f6e6>)
12:44:44 <Stnby[m]> I think I might need to charge interest rate after all of this finishes.
12:45:26 <Stnby[m]> * this finishes. I think it's 4th day already
17:03:33 <MaddieKalan> Excuse me what is this I'm seeing in my logs? "2023-08-03 14:06:42.593 I ###### REORGANIZE on height: 2943923 of 2943923 with cum_difficulty 296414540707750474" --> cum difficulty? <--
17:06:49 <zerglingman[m]> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
17:06:50 <zerglingman[m]> It's probably short for cumulative.
17:07:57 <MaddieKalan> But my teen brain is telling me someone has testicular disfunction, LMAO :table flip emote:
17:12:18 <rbrunner> Yup, it's "cumulative"
17:13:28 <rbrunner> Because if you have 2 chains that compete for being the one "true" chain, you do not simply compare which one has more blocks, but you compare the cumulated difficulty
21:19:13 <Stnby[m]> One more update from NowPayments chronicles.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/dabf07f896061592e4cfec12589529696aa31436>)
21:21:12 <Siren[m]> They need to sync their monero wallet with Sri Lankan DSL internet 
21:28:45 <agentsmith09[m]> Thank you guys
21:28:45 <agentsmith09[m]> I've just uploaded my first prototipe of Monero web app
21:28:45 <agentsmith09[m]> http://143.110.154.59:5000/
21:28:45 <agentsmith09[m]> Now work only Monero wallet, in the next day I'm gonna fix thing and keep you updated 
21:36:12 <wrightpt1[m]> does anyone run a node on aws? what is the avg cost
21:38:20 <lza_menace8> Depends on your instance size, disk configuration, and typical bandwidth each month. AWS is generally pretty expensive
21:38:27 <edge7[m]> wrightpt1[m]: https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/?nc1=h_ls
21:40:10 <wrightpt1[m]> lza_menace8: how do you recommend running one if accepting monero for payment through ecommerce?
21:40:23 <wrightpt1[m]> are there enough nodes?
21:42:43 <wrightpt1[m]> data from 2019 "We show that Monero’s network
21:42:43 <wrightpt1[m]> is highly centralized — 13.2% of the nodes collectively maintain 82.86%
21:42:43 <wrightpt1[m]> of the network connections. We have identified approximately 2,758 active nodes per day, which is 68.7% higher than the number reported by
21:42:43 <wrightpt1[m]> the MoneroHash mining pool. "
21:43:58 <wrightpt1[m]> https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/411.pdf
21:46:49 <lza_menace8> old doc, i regularly see 20,000+ nodes running in a day
21:47:03 <lza_menace8> always could use more
21:47:23 <lza_menace8> bite the bullet and pay for a large enough machine or use a public node
21:48:34 <wrightpt1[m]> lza_menace8: can i run the machine from home with non business internet connection? vs cloud
21:49:05 <Rucknium[m]> lza_menace8: Do you have a methodology for the node count on monero.fail?
21:50:24 <lza_menace8> brute force :D
21:50:36 <lza_menace8> I get an initial list of peers from my source node (singapore), then ask them for their peers, then ask them for their peers, ad infinitum until I cannot find any more
21:50:36 <Rucknium[m]> wrightpt1: Yes. Easy. A pruned node is about 70GB of storage. The only hard part is if you want to have incoming connections (connections that other nodes initiate). If you want that, you need to open ports on your computer and network device (probably a router). 
21:51:24 <Rucknium[m]> lza_menace8: Thanks. Do you refresh the list every 24 hours, i.e. remove nodes that do not show up in a new scan?
21:56:36 <lza_menace8> the script is very resource intensive (poorly written + python), so i scan once weekly to prevent sluggishness on the site. nodes not seen on current scan are removed
21:56:54 <lza_menace8> *nodes in the database that are not seen in each scan are removed
22:01:58 <wrightpt1[m]> I am using the cli wallet and try to connect to a public node. get this error message: 
22:01:58 <wrightpt1[m]> "This is the command line monero wallet. It needs to connect to a monero
22:01:58 <wrightpt1[m]> daemon to work correctly."
22:02:17 <wrightpt1[m]> are the urls on monero.fail not daemons?
22:03:35 <wrightpt1[m]> --daemon-address --wallet-file and --trusted-daemon
22:04:23 <lza_menace8> suspect your arguments are being incorrectly passed
22:04:58 <wrightpt1[m]> monero-wallet-cli --daemon-address https://bunkernet.ddns.net:18089 --wallet-file /home/wallet/file --trusted-daemon
22:07:10 <wrightpt1[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: thank you
22:07:20 <wrightpt1[m]> This is the command line monero wallet. It needs to connect to a monero... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/d8145d26fca8e95824f1b4e6af43085a61076db1>)
22:07:30 <wrightpt1[m]> i am doing the wallet file wrong then thanks
22:08:06 <lza_menace8> i just did the wrong thing :D
22:08:08 <lza_menace8> --generate-new-wallet /tmp/test
22:08:49 <lza_menace8> s/wrong/same/
22:11:16 <wrightpt1[m]> one has to put the actual name of the wallet in the file path
22:12:03 <wrightpt1[m]> I still get this error though: Wallet password: 
22:12:03 <wrightpt1[m]> Error: failed to load wallet: basic_string::_M_replace_aux
22:12:03 <wrightpt1[m]> Error: You may want to remove the file "/home/p/Monero/" and try again
22:13:08 <wrightpt1[m]> wallet works with gui
22:17:24 <wrightpt1[m]> sudo apt install monero
22:17:25 <wrightpt1[m]> install the older version
22:18:15 <wrightpt1[m]> it worked
22:18:18 <wrightpt1[m]> thank you so much
22:20:22 <wrightpt1[m]> how efficient is the Cli mining? assume not much bc its so generalized for any hardware
22:20:33 <wrightpt1[m]> anyway, thank you all for the help
22:23:48 <lza_menace8> it's not
22:23:54 <lza_menace8> xmrig is much more performant
23:00:59 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero Issue 181: July 27 - August 3, 2023. https://revuo-xmr.com/issue-181.html