01:46:44 <m-relay> <j​k:vin.ovh> hello
08:06:58 <m-relay> <m​wkbarnjbblghgo4gudng:karp.lol> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/248489
08:56:08 <m-relay> <m​arcmus:matrix.org> would anyone here recommend the offline generator at: https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/monero-wallet-generator/archive/master.zip ?
09:16:07 <moneromooo> Very likely. AFAIK it's solid.
09:16:37 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> lol
09:16:45 <moneromooo> I wrote it though, so that doesn't count as a second opinion.
09:42:14 <rbrunner> It's more or less *the* offline generator. I vote for it.
10:54:58 <m-relay> <m​arcmus:matrix.org> Thanks for confirming it's still solid @m​oneromooo and for your vote rbrunner
12:09:46 <aog> do you guys know which is the service I can use to topup my stagenet wallet?
12:14:30 <rbrunner> https://community.rino.io/faucet/stagenet/
12:18:24 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://milksad.info/
13:44:04 <m-relay> <o​monerista:matrix.org> Olá pessoal, estou vendendo duas trezor one na cor preta sendo novas e lacradas. Pagamento preferencialmente em critpos, mas tbm podemos fazer via pix em últimos casos.
13:44:04 <m-relay> <o​monerista:matrix.org> Motivo da venda: Comprei 3 numa promo e tô usando só uma, as outras já tinha a intenção de vender. 
13:44:05 <m-relay> <o​monerista:matrix.org> Valor: R$550,00 cada. 
13:44:05 <m-relay> <o​monerista:matrix.org> Interessados me chamem!
13:45:09 <moneromooo> FWIW, I would not buy a trezor from some random. Much risk.
14:33:56 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> has anyone tried mining monero ?
14:33:56 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> how was it  ? any profits you had ?
14:34:16 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I mine monero 24/7
14:34:24 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> You don't really make profits by mining Monero
14:34:28 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> whats your setup ?
14:34:29 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I have yet to mine a block
14:34:37 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> The point is to strengthen the network
14:35:04 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> naah....i asked from profit pov
14:35:38 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I have two dell PowerEdge R620's, each with two intel E5-2420s
14:35:44 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I also have a desktop with a ryzen 9 5950x
14:35:49 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> so you mine solo ?
14:35:50 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Those are mining 24/7
14:35:51 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I mine in P2Pool
14:35:53 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> okay
14:36:13 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> how much time it has been you have been running it ?
14:37:07 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Maybe 4-5 months
14:37:30 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> you still don't have a return ?
14:37:59 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> It's decentralized, peer-to-peer. Read [this](https://www.getmonero.org/2021/10/05/p2pool-released.html)
14:38:04 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Not at all
14:38:20 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> My electricity bill has not differed that much
14:38:35 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I have solar
14:38:58 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> So when I use 'too' much I get billed, but it isn't expensive, under $100 a month
14:41:00 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> i better not try it then
14:41:45 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Why not?
14:41:46 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> i have very limited no. of devices that too having very low specs
14:41:52 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> That's ok, mining on a small device is not a problem
14:41:53 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Still helps the network
14:42:44 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> yeah , but i am not even sure i can keep them running 24/7
14:42:45 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> That is still not a problem
14:42:49 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> When you want to, you can mine a bit
14:42:51 <DataHoarder> ^
14:42:58 <DataHoarder> mining process is random
14:43:10 <DataHoarder> you lose nothing by stopping or starting again
14:43:30 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> today i tried to download the blockchain , it seems it will take over 2-3 weeks to just do that.
14:43:32 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> What's your internet speed?
14:44:22 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> its around 100mb/s up/down
14:44:24 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Are you using a proxy?
14:44:25 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Tor or whatnot?
14:44:38 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> nope
14:45:19 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Are you on the monero-wallet-gui?
14:46:15 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> With 100mb/s, it should be pretty fast
14:46:18 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Less than a day
14:46:35 <nioc> usually the limiting factor in sync speed is the drive HDD = slow  SSD - fast
14:47:48 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Right, I forgot to consider that
14:47:50 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> yes
14:47:50 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Are you on an SSD or HDD?
14:47:51 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> yeah , i have a hdd.
14:47:52 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> should i buy an ssd ?
14:48:31 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> It will be very slow and lag behind on hdds, you should use an ssd instead
14:48:33 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I recommend it
14:48:34 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> 1tb ssds are $50 now
14:48:34 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> ok i will try
14:48:45 <nioc> for initial syncing it helps a great deal, once synced an HDD will keep up just fine if you keep it running
14:48:46 <DataHoarder> you can use [Gupax] in the interim https://gupax.io/ while you sync
14:48:48 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> would about processor ?
14:48:48 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> i have an intel 7th gen i3
14:49:05 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Yep, that's good
14:49:36 <nioc> if the processor does not have AES it will be a bit slow
14:49:56 <nioc> I has an i3 which did not have AES
14:50:11 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> we can do mining , without installing XMrig right ?
14:50:13 <nioc> *had
14:50:27 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I'm seeing some of the 7th gen i3's have AES
14:50:41 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> how do i check ?
14:51:05 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Try cat /proc/cpuinfo
14:51:23 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Wait, what operating system are you on?
14:51:30 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> bindows user sir 🙊
14:52:10 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I'm not sure
14:52:14 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> try installing cpuz
14:52:31 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
15:07:02 <nioc> just search your CPU and the info should be there
15:07:23 <nioc> the entire knowledge of the human race is at your fingertips  :)
15:07:58 <nioc> the first result is usually intel 
15:13:44 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> mining on cloud wouldn't be feasible right ?
15:13:45 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> If you want to, you can
15:13:45 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> You won't really make much profit regardless
15:14:22 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> rasberry pi ?
15:14:22 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Sure
16:37:21 <m-relay> <e​ndor00:matrix.org> Waste of time, it will earn like 5$/year
16:38:43 <m-relay> <e​ndor00:matrix.org> Pretty much every x64 cpu you can find these days has hardware aes instructions
16:39:15 <m-relay> <e​ndor00:matrix.org> Only some low power arm stuff (like the raspberry pi) lacks them
17:17:42 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> rasberry are waste of money (except if you got them before they inflated)
17:17:42 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> for the price of a rpi, you can get a 1L tiny computer like Lenovo or Dell, with a 4 or 6 cores Intel i5 and 16GB of ram.
17:17:43 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> And unlike the rpi, it have nvme support and usb3
17:18:11 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> What are the prices now?
17:18:14 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I bought a 3b+ four years ago for $30
17:18:36 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I unfortunately broke an inductor on it around a month ago
17:21:20 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> four year ago being the keywords.
17:21:20 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> rpi are over hyped, people buy them because they are inferior to other cheaper solution or something.
17:21:21 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> rpi4 8GB model is 100$ to 190$ depending where you get it, it's usually out of stock for the cheap one
17:21:35 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Wow, that's expensive
17:22:09 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> a mini PC with i5-6500T 8GB RAM 256GB SSD is 100€
17:23:17 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> https://www.ebay.com/itm/354971891017 😂
17:23:42 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Exactly.
17:23:42 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I got one upped to 64GB of DDR4 and 4TB of SSD (2TB nvme)
17:23:44 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> rpi are just jokes compared to these small pc
17:25:04 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> If what you want is the headers to control other shenanigans, get an Arduino instead...
17:26:15 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> they are lower power though and you don't have a management engine
17:26:26 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> Plus better to integrate in custom hardware
17:26:57 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's still quite related.
17:26:57 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> These thinkcenter use like 8w idle, it's not bad
17:26:57 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> at full power it going to use 40 to 70w depending of what CPU
17:26:58 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> But it's order of magnitudeS faster
17:28:31 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> compared to my gaming/mining rig
17:28:31 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> 120W IDLE
17:28:31 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> 600W full throttle
17:28:32 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> 😂
17:29:16 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> If you don't need the compute a RPI is fine
17:29:46 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yeap, but you pay more for a lot less, that was the point.
17:29:46 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> You can get other SBC for less than the rpi if you really want a sbc
17:30:09 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> I am currently running a mini PC, and not a RPI despite having both
17:30:32 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> lol, my cheapo 40$ Asus TinkerBoard is over 100$ now 😂
17:30:51 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> My Tinkerboard is just accumulating dust
17:31:14 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I do use Arduino, there cheap and also have header pins.
17:32:34 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I'm running 4 mini PC right now (actually they stay on 24/7).
17:32:34 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Thanks to there low power usage, it's not a problem even if i'm totally offgrid solar
17:33:05 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> They are nicely stackable :)
17:33:30 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> If you want to stack up rpi, you need to also get case for them, increasing the price more
20:51:40 <MajesticBankd> dukenukem
20:55:28 <m-relay> <r​ymdlord:matrix.org> I have a transaction that is confirmed when I look at the transaction ID but it doesn't appear in my monjuro wallet. I am 100% its the right adress. It also appears that the sender has used pocket change. Is there something I can do?
20:59:24 <MajesticBankd> dukenukem
21:18:16 <m-relay> <s​ide-trips:matrix.org> Is the monero-offtopic channel kill or did I get banned?
21:23:57 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> You confirm that you're monejuro wallet is synced?
21:24:43 <m-relay> <r​ymdlord:matrix.org> Yep
21:25:30 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's more than 10 confirmations?
21:33:32 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> Hi.
21:33:32 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> I am searching for a reliable source to check xmr number of transactions daily. Excluded coinbase ones.
21:33:33 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> Found this
21:33:34 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-transactions.html#3y
21:33:34 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> Anything to suggest? Thanks
21:39:32 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> That's fine.
21:39:42 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/lUGHQXrDWdPCqZVnhOJyBuEB
21:39:45 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Fix it
21:42:14 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> Do you know if that source above includes coinbase transactions or not?
21:47:41 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> IT's a number of transaction.
21:47:41 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> it count for "1" transaction. at that point it make literally no difference
21:47:41 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> You could also use https://xmrblockexplorer.org/
21:47:42 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's the opensource onion explorer. It have lot of details.
21:54:51 <m-relay> <r​ymdlord:matrix.org> Yes 22
21:59:36 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> You sent it from a wallet you control (one you have the private key for) ?
22:01:35 <m-relay> <r​ymdlord:matrix.org> No its from local monero
22:19:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Huuh?
22:19:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> tell the story again
22:19:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Since it doesnt make sense
22:19:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> What doesnt make sense?
22:19:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> the sender (from localmonero) doesnt send you anything. Localmonero's escrow does
22:20:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And localmonero definitely doesnt use monerujo lol.
22:21:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> If the xms is from localmonero.. check the trade conversation page.. it shows 1. The address the xmr was sent to 2. The status of the transfer
22:24:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 1. the address should (must) match an address that belongs go you
22:24:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2. The status should show completed
22:25:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> assuming both of these to be true, 
22:25:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> the problem is either 
22:25:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> A) Monerujo isnt synced (wait for sync to complete)
22:25:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> B) monerujo is an old version (update it) or
22:25:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> C) monerujo is connected to a bad node (use a good node)