01:51:36 <gingeropolous> ugh. i feel like someones tryin to mess with xmrchain.net
02:40:59 <m-relay> <A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑> I hate scholars
03:11:46 <m-relay> <m​lcboss:matrix.org> Can threema change user id or it is fixed?
03:11:59 <m-relay> <m​lcboss:matrix.org> honestly prefer threema than signal , since signal put our phone number as user id
03:56:48 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Voip number wut wut
03:58:01 <m-relay> <A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑> This chat is just full of scholars bro
03:58:10 <m-relay> <A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑> @beatentodeath look at all these scholars
03:58:33 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> > having to provide a number in the first place
03:58:49 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> XMPP works great
03:58:56 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> IRC, matrix
03:58:59 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> All work grat
03:59:01 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> All work great
03:59:02 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Irc is email
03:59:02 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Matrix is email
03:59:22 <m-relay> <A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑> I hate scholars
03:59:30 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> What?
03:59:34 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Host your own server
03:59:36 <m-relay> <A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑> @beatentodeath don't we hate scholars?
03:59:38 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> And meta data leaking?
03:59:40 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Put
03:59:56 <m-relay> <b​eatentodeath> guys ignore Abo he's a bit special
03:59:56 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Put plug in it
04:00:08 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Yeah, you're right
04:00:19 <m-relay> <A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑> You're the one that made the phrase you racist @beatentodeath
04:00:30 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Matrix metadata protection isn't too good
04:01:01 <m-relay> <A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑> You dumb scholar
04:01:01 <m-relay> <A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑> He's a fed btw
04:01:36 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I feel that matrix overall is the best in terms of convenience
04:01:46 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I feel that matrix overall is the best in terms of convenience, best for normies
04:03:11 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Just run your own server and don't enable federation
04:03:11 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> That's what I do
04:03:58 <dasbii> testing testing  my ip  is visible?
04:04:29 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Yes
04:04:37 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> 192.168.1.1
04:05:06 <dasbii> :)
04:12:16 <m-relay> <A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/620459189097201669/1141585256537923667/image0.png
04:24:33 <m-relay> <m​onerochad> .
09:17:06 <m-relay> <a​lex:agoradesk.com> If the gift card didn't work there'd a be dispute and they would win and get their coins back.
09:23:24 <moneromooo> Why would they win ?
09:23:58 <moneromooo> (I assume coins back because escrow or 2/3 and not paid yet ?)
09:27:28 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk:
09:28:45 <m-relay> <a​lex:agoradesk.com> Because you wouldn't finalize the trade until you made sure the card works.
09:31:09 <moneromooo> "you" here is the buyer or the escrow ?
09:31:49 <moneromooo> What I'm saying is... it sounds like the oracle problem again. How to make tell which side is lying.
09:32:35 <moneromooo> "there'd a be dispute and they would win" sounds like there's a third party, not just the buyer not finalizing.
10:05:54 <m-relay> <t​iberius.maximus:matrix.org> Anyone ever had a bad experience using trocador?
10:10:59 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Nope
10:11:04 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Why?
13:11:56 <tux> hey I have a wallet in moneroju that for some reason is corrupted now (thank you moneroju, not the first time). I backuped the keys file and tried opening it on the computer. The password I used in moneroju is well nothing/empty password field. On the PC it doesn't accept the password. I assume what it is actually asking is the CRazyPass right?
13:16:39 <kico> tux, did you save the seed?
13:16:54 <kico> you can just recover from there and set a new password
13:17:41 <tux> kico: you mean the 25 words seed? No, the wallet was just a small wallet, like we are talking 2-4 dollars/euros at best. Of course for bigger wallets, I would never not write down the seed but this was more like a test wallet 
13:18:03 <kico> ic
13:18:15 <kico> have you tried to restore on the mobile instead?
13:18:47 <kico> not sure how the wallet is saved on monerujo mobile and if that would be compatible with desktop version
13:18:48 <tux> when I open the wallet / "subaddress"?, after entering the password, moneroju just crashes 
13:18:58 <kico> ic
13:19:13 <kico> not sure I can help you need monerujo support :)
13:19:28 <tux> This is the second wallet where this happend by the way, after yesterday, I am in the process of moving to a different app. Moneroju is shit, I am done with it.
13:19:48 <kico> never had any issues with monerujo so far
13:19:51 <kico> love it
13:20:06 <kico> strange this happened
13:20:15 <kico> contact their support I'm sure they have a fix
13:29:04 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> The assumption is right
16:04:26 <trynsta> jhk
22:53:39 <Den4ikRus> Hi, any recommendations for VPS providers
22:53:45 <Den4ikRus> that allow to pay in XMR
23:20:53 <SNeedlewoods> https://kycnot.me/search?q=hosting
23:21:06 <SNeedlewoods> haven't used one myself though
23:23:50 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://www.monerodirectory.com/
23:53:28 <Den4ikRus> thanks will check em out