05:47:56 <m-relay> <j​k:vin.ovh> henlo
05:48:55 <m-relay> <m​onerochad> Nothing happened we good bought monero to make monerochan happy. 😹😞😉
05:50:13 <m-relay> <m​onerochad> Nothing happened; we good some bought monero to make monerochan happy. 😹😞😉
05:59:36 <m-relay> <c​honky.rocks:matrix.org> m-relay: njal.la by those fun people who built piratebay
06:00:37 <m-relay> <c​honky.rocks:matrix.org> njalla also runs a covert domain registration thing if you need reasonably non traceable domain name
06:10:34 <m-relay> <c​honky.rocks:matrix.org> my own setup is njalla VPS paid with XMR + running .onion service, no domain name access at all
06:11:56 <m-relay> <m​onerochad> Nothing happened; we good bought some  monero to make monerochan happy. 😹😞😉
06:18:55 <m-relay> <c​honky.rocks:matrix.org> dumb question I get asked lately, is there something like localmonero but in the reverse
06:19:30 <m-relay> <c​honky.rocks:matrix.org> or is localmonero available for anyone to sell their xmr for people who want to buy
06:22:28 <m-relay> <p​atchy319> Yes you can both buy and sell on there
06:39:25 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> i remember years ago pirate bay was seized by fbi and the main guy got arrested in Thailand or somewhere there
07:06:08 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> njalla sucks cock
07:25:11 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> tell us what you really think
08:34:47 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> i think that njalla sucks cock
09:58:00 <m-relay> <x​fedex:matrix.org> cockbox > njalla
10:12:28 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> kyun >>>>>
10:12:38 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> absolutely 0 bias
12:13:33 <m-relay> <s​uitslie:hackliberty.org> surprised to see how few nodes received donations on your platform
12:13:38 <m-relay> <s​uitslie:hackliberty.org> or rather
12:13:45 <m-relay> <s​uitslie:hackliberty.org> that was worded wrongly
12:14:05 <m-relay> <s​uitslie:hackliberty.org> surprised to see that few donations have been made on your platform
12:14:14 <m-relay> <s​uitslie:hackliberty.org> like 0.3 XMR in total?
12:19:12 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> reiya.io?
12:20:00 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> yeah i kinda put the shilling and development on hold for now
12:52:31 <m-relay> <s​uitslie:hackliberty.org> ok
12:53:19 <m-relay> <p​oyo_poyo_ploof:matrix.org> question
12:53:34 <m-relay> <p​oyo_poyo_ploof:matrix.org> does the community have an in-depth exploration of how XMR actually works?
12:53:57 <m-relay> <p​oyo_poyo_ploof:matrix.org> like a code walkthrough for someone that's a developer
12:57:50 <moneromooo> "Zero to Monero".
12:58:22 <rbrunner> Jep: https://www.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf
12:58:46 <rbrunner> I think you can only start to "walk through the code" after you understand the theory behind everything
14:35:02 <m-relay> <m​lcboss:matrix.org> do you guys use your monero for daily transaction? 
14:35:03 <m-relay> <m​lcboss:matrix.org> currently is very giftcard dependent and cash would be better for privacy in this case.
14:35:14 <m-relay> <p​atchy319> I wish it was possible to use
14:35:35 <m-relay> <p​atchy319> I wish it was possible to use XMR as a bank account
14:37:50 <m-relay> <m​lcboss:matrix.org> with the help with local xmr it will work but no practical due to fees
14:37:50 <m-relay> <m​lcboss:matrix.org> i have a prepaid card & mobile payment which i can add credit by selling my xmr.
14:37:51 <m-relay> <m​lcboss:matrix.org> i don't think it will work in the US , cause PayPal required to linked your name & bank acc
14:40:16 <m-relay> <m​lcboss:matrix.org> i can withdrew to cash but again (fees) , people usually charge 5-10% for cash by mail or atm withdrawal.
14:42:43 <m-relay> <m​lcboss:matrix.org> i want to remind you that it is not trocador fault , is the exchange problem.
14:42:43 <m-relay> <m​lcboss:matrix.org> please read their terms
15:16:39 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> xmr hasn't got much attention yet.
15:16:40 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> Maybe the next gen will.
15:17:30 <m-relay> <m​onerochad> Gen alpha 😺😭
15:18:21 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> though currently their is heavy pressure from governments on crypto market , but eventually they are here to stay.
15:20:01 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> i hope they stay alive atleast in my life span :)
15:21:44 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> you can keep some xmr as an investment for now. 
15:21:44 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> I agree there is a lot of fee involved for just acquiring it. So its okay to not transact in it for now.
17:23:14 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> https://miningpoolstats.stream/monero
17:25:18 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Are we getting  majority hash attacked right now? What's up with hashvault crazy hash spike
17:40:16 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Maybe just CIA needed some Monero for one of there ops
17:50:01 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> That info is legit though right? That some entity just suddently decided to flare up a bunch of hash?
17:52:22 <gingeropolous> looks like that is whats happenin
17:54:07 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> If they aren't mining empty blocks then we can assume they aren't behaving in "maximally malicious", right?
17:54:44 <gingeropolous> thats a reasonable assumption at this point 
17:55:29 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's the best way for state operated cover ops to obtain monero...
17:55:30 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> That way they don't have to find place to buy them and to the whole cash->btc->xmr dance
17:55:49 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> And it's the most anon way to do it
17:55:51 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> You think that's really true though?
17:56:09 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Wouldn't it be easier to just open a trade on Local Monero for like $4,000 USD?
17:56:21 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Because they would've accumulated just shy of that from this recent stint
17:56:26 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I say it's a very possible situation.
17:56:26 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's not the first time we have huge surprise hash rate applied temporarly on the network
17:57:39 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It leave a trace on local monero.
17:57:40 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Then you have to find a peer with enough capacity and a good price, like not +30% with is normal in some places
17:58:09 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Probably not a US gov actor though, because they could just do an over the counter trade with exchange. I could see how your theory would make sense if it was a government entity that didn't have good relations with the West (US) and therefore exchanges
18:00:04 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Can they really just buy it from exchange if it's for a secret (or higher) security clearance ?
18:01:29 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> But what would they do with that Monero? The only marketplace that has robust acceptance of Monero is the Dark Net (drugs and carding) as far as I'm aware
18:02:21 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Then again China probably is heavily involved with the dArk net drug scene, so this would make sense if they wanted to get some
18:02:29 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Finance illicit operation in another country.
18:02:30 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I'm sur some of there operatives will gladly accept monero
18:04:15 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> maybe
18:04:31 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> but the operatives would have to possess a method of converting back to fiat
18:04:54 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> Some other theory a part from that?
18:09:07 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> edge7: The leading theory is always that someone took control of a lot of machines through an unpatched exploit. Then they mine XMR for their own benefit.
18:09:57 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> The hashrate disappears once the machines are patched or shut down.
18:10:18 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Why discount large hangars full of Epycs?
18:10:33 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Or threadrippers
18:10:37 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Finally, monero mining goes industrial..
18:11:31 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> I find it hard to believe it was profitable for the entity to fire up such large hash to just accumulate about $4,000 USD minus their fees paid to hashvault and therefore I agree with Rucknium
18:11:35 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> k4r4b3y: Because the hashrate doesn't last. And it doesn't ramp up slowly.
18:12:32 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Can use localmonero or maybe he want to keep them for 10 years or something
18:14:35 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> I think Rucknium's theory makes the most sense. Because if you were the botnet naughty boy who went out of your way to perform the hack, then you would mine with great urgency as you would expect to get caught at some point shortly after the exploit is executed
18:14:51 <m-relay> <f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Nobody is willing to take on such risky work without being able to spend their income on goods or services so the 10 yr hodler black op contractor is out of the cards IMO
18:16:36 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Maybe the black op contractor have already money so he don't care hodling the surplus
18:16:39 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> at the end, we don't know
18:17:46 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Rucknium can also be right
18:17:47 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Maybe someone found his way into some ovh server provisioning code and provisioned ell unused machine with miners... until he got caught and all machines deleted
19:00:31 <rbrunner> "77 blocks in the last 90 minutes". Yikes.
19:03:11 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> Transactions confirming lickety-split 😎
20:01:22 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> Hey guys, need some help getting p2pool working
20:01:22 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> - Im using monero-wallet-gui on a MacOS host with VPN.
20:01:23 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> - I'm using a Local node with the "prune" option set
20:01:23 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> - I can mine "Solo" just fine
20:01:24 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> But when I select the "P2Pool" mining mode, it says in the bottom left "connected+mining" for a split second before going "Disconnected". In my logs I have repeat messages of `2023-08-18 18:13:39.860 I Monero 'Fluorine Fermi' (v0.18.2.2-release)
20:01:24 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> Error: Couldn't connect to daemon: 127.0.0.1:18081` The daemon is running as I can mine locally just fine, and in my logs it shows its connecting when I mine locally: `[8/18/23 2:12 PM] 2023-08-18 18:12:32.006 I Monero 'Fluorine Fermi' (v0.18.2.2-release)
20:01:25 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> Height: 2954850, target: 2954850 (100%)
20:01:25 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> Downloading at 1 kB/s
20:01:26 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> Next needed pruning seed: 2
20:01:26 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> 1 peers`
20:01:27 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> What do I have to do to get p2pool mining working?
20:03:45 <moneromooo> Run everything with a higher log level. "Couldn't connect to daemon" seems wrong.
20:03:55 <sech1> "Couldn't connect to daemon" is not a p2pool error message
20:04:01 <sech1> It's coming from GUI
20:04:31 <sech1> You can open p2pool folder and check what's in p2pool.log
20:04:43 <sech1> p2pool folder is inside gui wallet folder
20:08:28 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> ok thanks, I'll increase logging and recheck there too
21:15:17 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> Switched over to Gupax, not having any problems now
21:15:50 <m-relay> <h​00:feds.punked.us> My hashrate is real slow though, does anyone have any links regarding XMRIG / CPU optimization?
22:32:31 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> If you provide a minimum config.json to xmrig it usually set up the best setting in according to your machine specs.