06:02:05 <m-relay> <A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑> We should start castrating scammers and weirdos in the community
11:21:38 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> Punishments for scammers/weirdos is off topic
11:23:20 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> They are handled appropriately on IRC/Matrix side, please find your nearest discord mod and report them
12:40:23 <m-relay> <w​rightpt1:matrix.org> I want to be sure I am thinking about this correctly. if one has a webpage that users can log into. the code is hosted on github. is it safest to put api keys, wallet addresses, seed phrases, login credentials in databases located on aws or azure correct? away from the logic of the website?
12:41:51 <m-relay> <w​rightpt1:matrix.org> i am starting up a supabase server for oauth and want to be sure i am seperating everything correctly
12:49:39 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> If you are planning to use aws or similar cloud providers they usually offer a service named secret manager. Which is safer than storing those in a dB. Obviously you have to secure secret manager as well with the right IAm roles
12:50:57 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> User credentials, after hashing can be stored in a dB.
14:31:36 <slave_blocker> hello, good day
14:31:53 <slave_blocker> i want to understand full membership proofs. Where can i get slides or info about it?
14:36:40 <rbrunner> You could watch this MoneroKon 23 presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAcdRZSsIQo
14:36:52 <rbrunner> It's a bit raw, the talks starts around minute 13
14:38:24 <rbrunner> In case you wonder about the dress: It was a joke along the lines "I want to be a servant to the Monero community" :)
14:38:51 <rbrunner> Monero devs can be super dedicated to the cause, you know ...
14:48:17 <slave_blocker> well i am called also dollner so
14:48:22 <slave_blocker> the doll is in there
14:51:52 <slave_blocker> i have seen that
14:52:04 <slave_blocker> i need the math behind it
14:52:13 <slave_blocker> where do i find it?
14:53:07 <slave_blocker> also i just installed the matrix client nheko with the solo purpose of chatting on matrix about monero
14:53:19 <slave_blocker> what server do i use ?
14:54:36 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> slave_blocker: https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20230816#c272786
14:55:31 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> You can use the server that you prefer. monero.social can be your home server
14:57:58 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> A few things are added to Curve Trees. Check the bullet points in the introduction: https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/403
15:03:46 <rbrunner> slave_blocker, just curious, can you reveal already what you will do with the math once you see it?
15:07:50 <slave_blocker> :)
15:08:25 <slave_blocker> im inside the matrix
15:08:29 <slave_blocker> i guess
15:08:33 <slave_blocker> nice
15:08:50 <slave_blocker> dont understand why the e-mail though
15:10:24 <slave_blocker> i wont do nothing with the math
15:10:47 <slave_blocker> math simply is you cant really do anything with it
15:11:03 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> slave_blocker: I think people were signing up and then spamming other Matrix rooms. monero.social admins got complaints, so they put up email as a small barrier
15:11:07 <slave_blocker> i want to understand it first
15:14:54 <slave_blocker> rbrunner, you know a man has 3 things to do in life
15:15:23 <slave_blocker> procriate, plant a tree and write a book.
15:15:40 <rbrunner> :)
15:15:43 <slave_blocker> i like the translation that i did so far for ztm
15:16:03 <rbrunner> I currently stand at two. Planting the tree is left.
15:16:05 <slave_blocker> and as the chapers are divided in latex files
15:16:15 <slave_blocker> fmp's would just be a new one
15:16:59 <slave_blocker> *chapters
15:19:20 <slave_blocker> the thing of H' in bulletproofs got me all confused, until i understood it.
15:20:34 <slave_blocker> H' = y⁻1 H <=> y H' = H 
15:21:28 <slave_blocker> does not mean that H' is multiplied by y ...
15:21:39 <slave_blocker> its a veeery subtle brainfuck
15:26:26 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> My first barrier with the cryptography papers is notation, yeah. Need to get the notation understood first. That requires time investment at the beginning.
15:27:41 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> Or any computer science papers. Took me a while to figure out lg() means log with base 2.
15:32:19 <m-relay> <s​lave_blocker:monero.social> :)
15:32:36 <m-relay> <s​lave_blocker:monero.social> well i got this paper here :
15:33:39 <m-relay> <s​lave_blocker:monero.social> https://www.usenix.org/system/files/usenixsecurity23-campanelli.pdf
15:33:40 <m-relay> <s​lave_blocker:monero.social> are there other ones that are relevant?
20:23:31 <pickles> If Monero we're to become adapted by the masses somehow, could it potentially be more dangerous than cash? Let's say someone gets busted and need to link transactions to them, how are the police going to have any evidence to convict this person?
20:30:11 <slave_blocker> pickles, 
20:30:53 <slave_blocker> not only dangerous but also elegant as hell.
20:31:25 <slave_blocker> proof of work blockchains are scalable
20:31:42 <slave_blocker> sun is yellow and the gras is green
20:31:45 <slave_blocker> ommm
20:32:08 <slave_blocker> and you could arrest yourself, pickles ?
20:33:05 <pickles> yes
20:33:40 <pickles> dangerous = bad
20:33:49 <pickles> we want to keep america safe
20:34:39 <pickles> because i put my ass in grass
21:28:19 <louipc> i don't see how cash or monero are themselves dangerous or bad
21:28:53 <slave_blocker> who is we pickles?
21:29:06 <slave_blocker> do you mean when you go to we?
21:29:52 <slave_blocker> and the sarcasm even makes sense
21:29:55 <slave_blocker> uhou
21:30:04 <slave_blocker> one point for me i guess
21:30:06 <slave_blocker> uhahaha
21:33:36 <louipc> must be the singular royal "We"