00:50:30 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> what is that
00:50:35 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> does it work with matrix
00:50:37 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> .bal
00:51:36 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> no worky 😿
02:27:17 <m-relay> <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> how much do you guys make from solo mining per month
02:27:20 <m-relay> <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> or p2pool
02:29:11 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> like 15$ or so (free electricity)
02:29:46 <gravimatrix> that sucks
02:30:39 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's mainly to burn the production surplus
02:30:53 <m-relay> <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> i make like 15¢
02:49:34 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai> i have ~¢40 rn and have been p2pool mining in the mini sidechain for only a few days
02:50:16 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai> i am entirely unconcerned in regards to electricity costs
02:50:17 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai> i have ~¢40 worth of monero rn and have been p2pool mining in the mini sidechain for only a few days
02:51:12 <m-relay> <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> I don't mine all the time anyway.
02:51:14 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai> i could play a game of pac-man with that much monero
05:05:34 <m-relay> <m​wkbarnjbblghgo4gudng:karp.lol> solo mining? On what?
09:26:31 <Afroboy> Hi, what the best mining software for linux on server with latest intel CPUs? (cli)
09:35:48 <moneromooo> I think xmrig.
12:13:29 <m-relay> <f​rencewise118_61762> Hey,
12:13:29 <m-relay> <f​rencewise118_61762> @everyone I’ve made  $437K+ with their alerts, Make as much as you want;;
12:13:30 <m-relay> <f​rencewise118_61762>          @here https://discord.io/Todayinfiniteoptionpre-member-chat
13:22:08 <m-relay> <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> scam
14:35:31 <rahl> just getting started with monero. trying to wrap my head around the basics. using the cli version. Have another machine where I can use tails to set up a paper wallet if need be
14:36:50 <rahl> So, I'm thinking paper wallet or not, run node? (can't atm for lack of space), how to get going without downloading the full blockchain...
14:37:09 <rahl> I do also have multiple pages from the docs open :)
14:38:11 <rahl> Presumably I have to pick a semi-trusted 3rd party source for now
14:42:42 <moneromooo> Yes. You gotta hope those people are not spying on you. Most probably are.
14:42:54 <moneromooo> A pruned chain is... maybe 60 GB ?
14:47:08 <rahl> Don't have a stable enough home setup currently, and can't afford to add 60GB to my vps
14:47:40 <moneromooo> Your node does not have to run all the time.
14:47:59 <rahl> hmm ok
14:50:07 <rahl> I got bitten with bitcoin block chain in the past. Quite a few times. Where pruned chain gets a little corrupted and I had to re download the entire chain again. In the end it also showed up faults in the external hdd it was on.
14:50:38 <rahl> The repeated downloads of the full chain was quite a problem. Any ideas if it's more or less likely with monero?
14:50:45 <moneromooo> It is.
14:51:00 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai> are there any downsides to running a pruned node
14:51:59 <moneromooo> Compared to running an unpruned node: you can't get the details of most old txes, and you can't serve these to another node. Not much of a problem.
14:52:55 <moneromooo> Compared to not running a node: you can't use monero (unless you capitulate to some person to make their the arbiter of your choices).
14:53:51 <moneromooo> rahl: if you have a broken disk, it will sooner or later corrupt the chain.
14:54:01 <moneromooo> Just get rid of it.
14:54:25 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> rahl: Don't use a HDD, especially an external one, for a Monero node. Monero requires a lot of random reads. If you use a HDD, it can take weeks to sync. With a SSD it will take days at most.
14:54:50 <rahl> m-relay: ack, much obliged
14:56:26 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai> yeah i have an SSD and it only took around one day to sync the unpruned node
14:56:58 <rahl> reasonable node basis? https://thepihut.com/blogs/raspberry-pi-tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-ssd-with-the-raspberry-pi
14:57:01 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai> i personally wouldn't even use an external SSD because of the overhead USB has compared to both SATA and PCIe
14:57:12 <rahl> fair
14:57:19 <rahl> was my main concern
14:57:48 <moneromooo> The rpi is bad at running a node. I think it's bad I/O performance and no HW AES (though not sure how much HW AES mattesr nowadays).
14:58:07 <rahl> sorry rucknium: ack, much obliged ;)
14:58:18 <moneromooo> There are other arm boards that are much better at it though.
14:58:27 <rahl> moneromooo: good to know
14:58:50 <rahl> arm boards that have a more direct ssd connection?
14:59:23 <moneromooo> I have not much experience of this so I won't comment further.
14:59:41 <rahl> np, I appreciate the help
15:01:49 <rahl> wonder how this might shape up https://www.pine64.org/rockpro64/
15:03:15 <moneromooo> I think this one qualifies as good.
15:03:55 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> IIRC, people do recommend rockpro64 for running monero nodes on single board computers
15:04:51 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/search/?q=rockpro64
15:10:18 <rahl> cool. 
15:10:52 <rahl> So running a pruned node is one thing. Then it's the choice of hot or cold wallet; cold being paper or hardware?
15:29:14 <m-relay> <s​hermand100:matrix.org> In my experience creating PiNodeXMR I'd suggest the Rock Pi 4 series for value.
15:29:14 <m-relay> <s​hermand100:matrix.org> Same processor and specs but cheaper accessories like the case, expansion boards etc.
15:29:15 <m-relay> <s​hermand100:matrix.org> They also have a newer Rock Pi 5 that's even better
15:34:44 <rahl> cheers
15:35:02 <rahl> Also also, to zmq or not?
15:35:35 <rahl> I tend to default to turning things off at least until I have some vague notion of what they're doing
15:40:49 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> Its very hard to beat a used mini PC in value. You can get an i5 6500T, 8GB ram, 256GB SSD for about 100€ - including case, heatsink, fan, and power supply
15:41:38 <m-relay> <c​trej:matrix.org> Idle power is about 6W, monerod takes about 2% of the CPU
15:48:05 <m-relay> <s​needlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> why not both!? cold wallet for big amounts and long term storage, hot wallet for pocket money that you can easily spend
15:48:26 <m-relay> <s​needlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> and personally I prefer paper over hardware
15:49:16 <rahl> ctrej: also totally reasonable, thanks
15:50:04 <rahl> sneedlewoods_xmr: ok, that makes sense. Slowly building a better picture
19:50:29 <m-relay> <k​ilopool:matrix.org> Does P2Pool reject valid solutions sent for the previous job (which can happen frequently with high-latency connections)?
19:59:13 <sech1> P2Pool remembers 4 last mining jobs sent, so it shouldn't reject previous job
20:12:10 <m-relay> <k​ilopool:matrix.org> Ok, thank you.
22:40:28 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai> would it be in any way worthwhile to try compiling the Monero tools on modern OpenVMS
22:43:31 <m-relay> <s​adlittlewannabesamurai> oh it wouldn't VSI says that virtualization support is a requirement for OpenVMS