03:05:49 <m-relay> <p​yromaniaco:matrix.org> Hello monerobros, I created a Kuno to accept donations for the channel, and I would be grateful if you could take a look ☺️.
03:05:49 <m-relay> <p​yromaniaco:matrix.org> I have a channel focused on posting arts and translations encouraging the use of Monero in Brazil. I hope to continue contributing to the community, Monero is a good project and its use should be increasingly encouraged here.
03:05:49 <m-relay> <p​yromaniaco:matrix.org> https://kuno.anne.media/fundraiser/5ia2/
03:05:50 <m-relay> <p​yromaniaco:matrix.org> https://t.me/MoneroPropagandaBR
03:29:43 <m-relay> <s​kdkfke:matrix.org> Kys
03:29:57 <m-relay> <s​kdkfke:matrix.org> Jk ❤️
03:30:07 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Monero propaganda BR is very good
03:51:06 <m-relay> <p​yromaniaco:matrix.org> thank you ❤️
04:28:15 <Fibonacci12358> Gene7au U R newb I NiCe U Be Me 
10:15:21 <narf> how good is monero
10:18:46 <gingeropolous> like super good
10:18:56 <narf> omg true
10:18:57 <gingeropolous> like totes amazeballs
10:19:03 <narf> slay
10:23:37 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> just really bad as an investment
10:25:33 <gingeropolous> depends what you're investing in. id say its a pretty good investment for change
10:31:57 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> the s&p500 is winning by a longshot
10:35:57 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> my average yearly return on monero is ~3.7%
10:37:22 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> and that is including a bunch of coins that i got "for free" by mining ETH, massive gains from nfts, etc
10:50:29 <gingeropolous>  #monero-markets is calling ....
10:58:21 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> i almost forgot about the strict no price/market talk meta
11:01:16 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Someone asked about how good monero is and I answered it's a bad investment 🤷‍♂️
13:22:45 <m-relay> <m​eow_the_hash_cat:matrix.org> hello, monero newcomer here :-) i am a software developer who managed to miss the whole cryptocurrency story until some months ago. so i am new to all kinds of crypto, but have much experience developing software i general. monero caught my interest. i would like to explore things deeper and then maybe i'd like to dedicate my time to cryptocurrency development. 1) did i come to th<clipped message>
13:22:46 <m-relay> <m​eow_the_hash_cat:matrix.org> e right place here? 2) are there still opportunities to work full time for monero project via the crowdfunding tool on getmonero.org? 3) where can i get information how the mining process can be set up to really mine something (couldn't get a single reward so far) any hints?
13:23:42 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> no way
13:23:49 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> nioc:
13:24:37 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> meow_the_hash_cat: check out gupax.io for mining
13:24:39 <m-relay> <m​eow_the_hash_cat:matrix.org> sorry didnt get your point?
13:25:02 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> dont worry about it, nioc has been talking a lot about cats recently
13:25:10 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> dont worry about it, nioc has been talking a lot about cats lately
13:26:05 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> while we have a few ccs funded devs  working fulltime on the project, i dont think its the best place to get started
13:26:45 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> i think https://bounties.monero.social/ could be a good start for you
13:28:54 <m-relay> <m​eow_the_hash_cat:matrix.org> thanks i will take a look at the suggested starting points, i will check how far i get with them. thank you for now!
13:30:44 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> if you have any further questions ask our secretary plowsof :D
13:37:52 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> the perfect blog post from rbrunner for youmeow_the_hash_cat https://www.getmonero.org/2023/02/02/seraphis-jamtis-developer-opportunities.html
13:44:55 <m-relay> <m​eow_the_hash_cat:matrix.org> plowsof: great, i will come back to this one, when i got comfortable with the existing code base :-)
13:54:07 <m-relay> <h​bs:matrix.org> Block 3,000,000 is about 24 hours away...
13:56:11 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> isnt cake doing some giveaway if you can guess the last x chars of the block
13:58:55 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20231008#c287599
14:00:20 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> nice
14:00:26 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ill have to get a tx in there
14:00:42 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> ping me pls thanks
14:03:30 <m-relay> <h​bs:matrix.org> I'll try to remind you.. My advice would be to sign the tx ahead of time and broadcast it once 2999999 is mined
14:07:16 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> need to refresh my memory. it can be done via wallet-rpc (do_not_relay:true, get_tx_hex:true with transfer, then you can broadcast the tx hex data with send_raw_transaction) but for the cli you start it with a do not relay flag, and it will save the signed tx to file in the same dir...
14:09:12 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> --do-not-relay
14:11:13 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> you'll then see "Transaction successfully saved to raw_monero_tx, txid <...>"
14:11:22 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> that is ... too involved
14:12:12 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> watch it be one of those blocks that gets mined in 3 seconds with 2 transactions
14:12:52 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> raw_monero_tx will contain the hex that you can paste into here https://xmrchain.net/rawtx
14:14:51 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> hm
14:16:42 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> or you could send orly_owl your seed phrase and he can handle the rest
14:42:47 <m-relay> <j​ohnfoss68:matrix.org> https://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-63
15:30:57 <m-relay> <m​hx:matrix.org> Is there something I can do to fix the extreme unresponsiveness of the monero cli? It's almost unusable for me. Is this a known issue?
15:33:25 <moneromoooo> Is your daemon very busy (such as syncing historical blocks) ?
15:39:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> monerod, right?
15:40:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> @mhx:matrix.org:
15:43:30 <m-relay> <m​hx:matrix.org> Yes, monerod takes forever to sync too, and the cli wallet can take minutes before it responds to a command.
15:46:41 <MeowingCat> hi
15:47:49 <MeowingCat> i have an issue with monerod
15:48:11 <m-relay> <m​eow_the_hash_cat:matrix.org> hi relay ;-P
15:49:30 <MeowingCat> rpc server is saying "method not found" for everything
15:49:50 <MeowingCat> and i don't think so it is connecting to other nodes properly
15:50:04 <moneromoooo> if monerod is syncing, and if your storage is very slow, it'll hog the main lock to add blocks to the database, and the wallet will have to wait its turn.
15:50:44 <moneromoooo> So if you want to refresh your wallet, you want to avoid your daemon syncing while you're doing so.
15:51:06 <moneromoooo> Exit/restart with --offline is best. But of course you'll have to refresh again once it's actually synced.
15:51:10 <MeowingCat> the issue is im using public WiFi or hotspot
15:51:28 <moneromoooo> Also, buy better storage. Spinning HDDs are very slow for syncing, SSDs are much better.
15:51:41 <MeowingCat> im seeing tons of logs from monerod but im not sure if they are errors or not
15:51:50 <MeowingCat> so
15:52:05 <MeowingCat> is it an issue im using WiFİ or mobile hotspot?
15:52:31 <MeowingCat> if my monerod connects other nodes
15:52:37 <MeowingCat> it will work
15:53:03 <MeowingCat> but my computer is not reachable by IP address
15:53:32 <MeowingCat> so is monerod supposed to work with a router and without port forwarding?
15:54:44 <MeowingC_> damn
15:54:49 <m-relay> <m​eow_the_hash_cat:matrix.org> it works but you wont get incoming connections without port forwarding
15:55:38 <MeowingCat> moneromoooo: do you have an idea?
16:07:14 <lza_menace> MeowingCat monerod doesn't need to be publicly accessible for you to query the RPC interface - it reaches out to other nodes over p2p connections and can serve it's data to you locally 
16:10:35 <lza_menace> which RPC method are you using? the node bootstrapping shouldn't be an issue - I temporarily renamed my lmdb directory to have my node sync from scratch and I can still get RPC responses https://irc.cloud.lzahq.tech/uploads/88c80bd702f5c9f7/image.png  
16:22:40 <moneromoooo> Early block spans are very quick to sync. Most are empty.
16:45:12 <MeowingCat> lza_menace: so i can use it behind routers
16:45:24 <MeowingCat> but im not sure it is working properly or not
16:45:30 <MeowingCat> there are too many output
16:45:42 <MeowingCat> it made me crazy
16:58:59 <MeowingCat> it is saying "handshake failed" after something
16:59:01 <MeowingCat> damn thing
16:59:10 <MeowingCat> i really don't understand why everything is buggy
16:59:20 <MeowingCat> i think it is working now
17:00:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> User error
17:00:15 <MeowingCat> curl http://127.0.0.1:38081/json_rpc -d '{"jsonrpc":"2.0","id":"0","method":"create_address","params":{"account_index":0,"label":"new-subs","count":2}}' -H 'Content-Type: application/json'
17:00:18 <MeowingCat> when i do this
17:00:21 <MeowingCat> it is saying "method not found"
17:00:23 <MeowingCat> :((((
17:01:58 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> turn that frown upside down
17:02:24 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> you are talking to your Monerod
17:03:26 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> unless you have your monero-wallet-rpc bound to port 38081?
17:03:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> and did you open/create a wallet first?
17:03:55 <MeowingCat> one second
17:04:19 <MeowingCat> --rpc-bind-port 38081 i have this
17:04:28 <MeowingCat> isn't this monero-wallet-rpc?
17:04:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> For monerod?
17:04:34 <MeowingCat> is there another RPC server?
17:04:40 <MeowingCat> siii monerod
17:04:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Slow
17:05:21 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> you need to consult the monero-wallet-rpc department instead of the monerod department https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html#create_address
17:05:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monerod startup command flags or config
17:05:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> wallet rpc startup command flags or config
17:06:04 <MeowingCat> it is saying "method not found" for curl http://127.0.0.1:38081/json_rpc -d '{"jsonrpc":"2.0","id":"0","method":"create_address","params":{"account_index":0,"label":"new-subs","count":2}}' -H 'Content-Type: application/json'  
17:06:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You said that already
17:06:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Didnt say this though
17:06:40 <MeowingCat> damn
17:06:41 <MeowingCat> wait
17:06:51 <MeowingCat> there is a "monero-wallet-rpc" executable
17:06:52 <MeowingCat> damn
17:06:54 <MeowingCat> where is that
17:06:57 <MeowingCat> :(((
17:07:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ...
17:07:11 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> do we have to explain that monerod is a daemon? and not a wallet ... like how much help do you need
17:07:18 <MeowingCat> lol
17:07:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its in the same folder as monerod
17:07:32 <MeowingCat> so "daemon" means the same thing for both
17:07:41 <MeowingCat> monerod app could have both
17:07:47 <MeowingCat> could do that in many ways
17:07:52 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> a daemon is a generic computing term but aroudn here we mean the "node"
17:08:06 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> node and wallet
17:08:15 <MeowingCat> it means "service" "server" and things like that
17:08:18 <MeowingCat> daemon
17:08:19 <MeowingCat> damn
17:08:41 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> monerod is the node (cant ask it to create an address because its not a wallet)
17:09:04 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> is that frown turned upside down yet
17:09:18 <lza_menace> looks like it's solved
17:09:36 <lza_menace> Meowing refer to this page for monerod RPC: https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/daemon-rpc.html
17:09:47 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks!
17:10:00 <lza_menace> and this one for monero-wallet-rpc https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html
17:10:06 <lza_menace> MeowingCat ^
17:10:22 <lza_menace> run monerod in conjunction with monero-wallet-rpc
17:12:29 <MeowingCat> so Bitcoin client is actually a node and also has wallet fundamentals
17:12:36 <MeowingCat> how could i know how you designed this thing?
17:12:44 <MeowingCat> :(((((
17:13:06 <MeowingCat> actually i did this things before but im so stupid i forgot things
17:13:29 <MeowingCat> thank you
17:13:42 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> Bitmonero?
17:13:58 <lza_menace> idk what wallet fundamentals means
17:14:23 <lza_menace> node and wallet are different for separation of concerns/duties
17:14:37 <MeowingCat> actually i checked it
17:14:42 <MeowingCat> like "monero rpc"
17:14:58 <MeowingCat> for is there another "monero rpc" thing because
17:15:09 <MeowingCat> it is called "wallet rpc" but
17:15:26 <MeowingCat> as "rpc" meaning there was resources about only "wallet rpc"
17:15:33 <MeowingCat> but you said "it is monerod rpc"
17:15:52 <MeowingCat> so is monerod's RPC too is a HTTP interface?
17:16:23 <MeowingCat> and do nodes communicate on that isn't there a custom protocol?
17:22:30 <lza_menace> not sure i can help any further
17:22:53 <lza_menace> rpc == api
17:22:59 <lza_menace> monerod has an api and wallet has an api
17:23:20 <lza_menace> monero-wallet-cli is a command line wallet client
17:23:33 <lza_menace> monero-wallet-rpc runs a web service with api
19:03:58 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Is there a book “monero for dumbies” ?
19:04:02 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Is there a book “monerod for dumbies” ?
19:06:43 <moneromoooo> Maybe "Mastering Monero" ?
19:07:00 <moneromoooo> It's not a man page if that's what you're asking though.
19:07:59 <rbrunner> Wondering what a dummy would want to learn about Monero. Wouldn't that rather be first "Cryptocurrencies for Dummies" and then Monero?
19:10:05 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> More talking about the above convo about monerod daemon and wallet
19:10:54 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> “ cryptocurrency for dumbies” first line use monero
19:13:58 <rbrunner> So that would be "How to get Monero up and running on your system, for dummies?" I don't think that would give a whole book.
19:15:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Xyproblem.info
19:15:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Plz
19:16:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> n thx
19:19:10 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> My book name is for catchy
19:19:19 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> ©️
19:19:29 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> My book name is more catchy
23:01:00 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero Issue 189: October 5 - 19, 2023. https://revuo-xmr.com/issue-189.html
23:22:43 <m-relay> <n​ullifydev:matrix.org> hi!
23:22:45 <m-relay> <n​ullifydev:matrix.org> i am thinking of going into Monero and i am interested in what kind of Crypto Exchanges There are that support Withdrawals and Deposits that do not collect data on anyone at all (security and privacy oriented). An example is Signal and Session for chatting but in Crypto aspect of Getting money to and from Monero Crypto wallet to and from bank card.
23:23:34 <m-relay> <n​ullifydev:matrix.org> does anyone have any suggestions?
23:23:46 <m-relay> <n​ullifydev:matrix.org> *pls ping when responding*