00:17:08 <m-relay> <K​eyMaster> On cam? can I see?
01:06:37 <m-relay> <r​anger_emdin:matrix.org> hey is this the real monero download? https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/792271147ad71a2eaa02fc37d61d72cd92f2f9857dcc09ea032f48481f87e279?nocache=1
01:16:55 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/releases/tag/v0.18.3.1
01:17:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Download from official source and make virus exclusions for the folder
01:17:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Windows doesnt like monero
01:19:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> According to windows, monero miners _are_ viruses.
01:26:05 <m-relay> <r​anger_emdin:matrix.org> i got it from here https://www.getmonero.org/downloads/
01:43:17 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Yeah “plowsof” offical
01:44:28 <m-relay> <r​anger_emdin:matrix.org> ?
01:44:51 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Its the offical site
01:45:10 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Or you can get it from github
10:07:37 <m-relay> <k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> While I don't mind stripe based pruning, I am begging projects to support only pruning below designated blocks and not just blind pruning :(
12:35:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> do you mean
12:35:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "still use stripe, but keep 1 months (21600 full blocks) before pruning?"
12:44:53 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> BTW. To top off yesterdays KYC story, I got a call from orbixtrade today, asking if I could answer a few questions, regarding my 2FA reset request.
12:44:53 <m-relay> <t​rasherdk:monero.social> After answering a few questions, asked in a hardly understandable English, my access has been restored. And I didn't even have to travel to Bangkok 😂
12:55:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Now you call back and say "my acct got drained!!"
13:28:37 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> https://x.com/watchfund/status/1732391070216908886 
13:28:37 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Ccs funds returned ?
13:31:08 <selsta> or someone has donated the equivalent amount
13:34:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yur welcum, sry
13:35:49 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Return = donation
13:36:03 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Soon Justin will have a chain analysis
13:36:16 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> To show it’s returned 😂
13:37:15 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Then take this analysis to exchanges and sell the product 😅
13:37:32 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> /s
16:58:02 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> So the person who stole it did exchange it for BTC, did ride the pump then returned the XMR with interests
16:59:29 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> -2675.73XMR
16:59:29 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> +2696.73XMR
17:16:18 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> lmso
17:16:18 <m-relay> <n​aphtha:kyun.host> lmao
17:26:58 <plowsof> >Stonks 
18:58:47 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> So it was just an investment loan
19:00:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its called "borrowing" without asking
19:00:54 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Neg
19:00:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Like "i borrowed your car. Why are you so mad? I put gas in it"
19:00:55 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> They left an “IOU”
19:01:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Noooo
19:01:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> I just got stuck in the drive thru
19:01:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And didnt return it before you noticed
19:02:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Came back and the garage was closed and police in front yard
19:02:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Had to wait for things to calm down, then i casually parked it at the side of the house and left before i was seen
19:04:25 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> So moral of the story is ssh password is safe cause they will return the funds gotcha. ed25519-sk is a waste of time
19:11:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yeah. 
19:11:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> and we should bullshit about how keys arent safe, then point to rsa
19:12:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2fa is a waste of time
19:12:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> just use a strong password 👍
19:12:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> dont back thinks up 3 times. 0 backups is more than enough 🙏
19:14:25 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> I have some monero if the hacker wants to invest
19:14:33 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> No permission required!
20:47:02 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> https://www.wired.com/story/binance-settlement-transaction-histories/ 😂
20:47:09 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> "Binance’s settlement requires it to offer years of transaction data to US regulators and cops, exposing the company—and its customers—to a “24/7, 365-days-a-year financial colonoscopy.”"
20:49:30 <slave_blocker> wow
20:49:38 <slave_blocker> that sounds hot
20:49:58 <slave_blocker> if they blow themselves is that gay?
20:50:19 <slave_blocker> hum
20:50:40 <slave_blocker> i would like to have 10 new inputs on my cakewallet
20:51:01 <slave_blocker> is there a fancy way to send to 10 sub-addresses?
20:56:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "add recipient"
21:03:03 <slave_blocker> niiice
21:03:13 <slave_blocker> new template
21:03:15 <slave_blocker> :)
21:03:21 <slave_blocker> add recipient
21:03:24 <slave_blocker> man 
21:03:30 <slave_blocker> long live cake
21:03:35 <slave_blocker> so sexy
21:18:11 <plowsof> You had to ask though so technically it failed you
21:22:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > <s​lave_blocker> is there a fancy way to send to 10 sub-addresses?
21:22:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Btw, im not sure why youd do such a thing
21:28:35 <slave_blocker> so i wont wait on the lock time
21:28:39 <slave_blocker> and
21:29:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Then you you split funds in half
21:29:44 <slave_blocker> if i only have one output the decoy selection can not work well if i am using it very often right?
21:30:12 <slave_blocker> if my output is always the "uppest"
21:30:21 <slave_blocker> does not sit weelll
21:30:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> half Or 16 subaddresses
21:30:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> not 10
21:30:55 <slave_blocker> whatever
21:31:04 <slave_blocker> i send to 5 outputs
21:31:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> whatevrr nothing
21:31:12 <plowsof> Watever??
21:31:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> youre talking random nonsense about privacy protections by suggsting ruining your privacy
21:31:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Xyproblem.info
21:31:52 <slave_blocker> i just sent to 5 outputs
21:32:32 <plowsof> Research the terms inputs/outputs 
21:32:33 <slave_blocker> is that not good for my privacy?
21:32:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://xmrchain.net/tx/e82384228ae85be90b4e856e2fcc28cd6fa4cb6703a7f4666ee0283c7fb884b1
21:33:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Is that you? I didnt look very hard
21:33:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Now, if you said "2" id say "lol, i have nonidea which one is yours"
21:33:41 <plowsof> oops
21:35:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Must be the right one. All others are old
21:35:43 <plowsof> Also search for "stealth addressss" then ask if/why sending to different subaddresses matters for privacy 
21:36:17 <slave_blocker> :)
21:36:20 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> There is a website for that
21:36:20 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Cant remember the name
21:36:47 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Oh getmonero.org
21:37:00 <slave_blocker> i just dont know the decoy selection algorithm that well
21:37:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Well dont wutevr me next time
21:37:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2 and 16 plz and thx.
21:37:31 <slave_blocker> i send to myself and for me thats good privacy
21:37:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Half or 16 and i'll have no idea
21:38:12 <slave_blocker> i dont care and dont be hostile please im sensitive to dopamine irregularities
21:38:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Water is wet!
21:38:36 <slave_blocker> might need all of it when i do the ztm to german
21:38:45 <m-relay> <r​anger_emdin:matrix.org> hey is this the real monero merch? https://moneromerch.com/
21:38:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> If that is hostile, idk what to tell you
21:38:54 <slave_blocker> bjs fofs pa ti tb
21:38:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> There is no official monero merch
21:41:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> If the question is "can i trust this website". Idk, i havent used it. Not sure who runs it, but i imagine someone here has used or know who runs it.
21:45:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monerosupplies.com
21:45:18 <m-relay> <-​coffeeplease-:matrix.org> Nope, something is wet because it has water on it.
21:45:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> But can water actually touch you?
21:46:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> alt 62617, where have you been ❤️
21:47:05 <m-relay> <-​coffeeplease-:matrix.org> It's been a long time, I know. Glad to see you again.❤️
21:48:53 <m-relay> <-​coffeeplease-:matrix.org> Don't tell we are alts. They may or may not believe us.
21:49:22 <m-relay> <-​coffeeplease-:matrix.org> *me
21:50:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yE8rkG9Dw4s
21:50:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > Don't tell we are alts. They may or may not believe us.
21:50:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> If they dont believe us, i think we win
21:51:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> If they believe us, i think we win too
21:51:56 <slave_blocker> then ask if/why sending to different subaddresses matters for privacy ?
21:52:46 <slave_blocker> as far as i remember a stealth address does not distinguish between main addr and sub addr
21:53:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The originating transaction is fingerprintable if you split into random numbers
21:53:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> it LOOKS like a churn, putting you in a very tiny pool of users who did the specific churn that you did (5 outs)
21:54:13 <slave_blocker> ok
21:54:19 <slave_blocker> makes sense
21:54:38 <slave_blocker> i get your point
21:55:04 <slave_blocker> but im not the guilty one
21:55:23 <slave_blocker> the guilt lies in the others not doing the same
21:55:26 <slave_blocker> thx
21:55:29 <slave_blocker> ;)
21:55:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> No, youre not. 
21:55:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> its been suggested in MRL to restrict outputs to specific numbers such as 2,4,6,8,16
21:56:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> i believe 2,16 is all we need. 4-8 are extremely rare, and dummy outs are that big (like the fake change output)
21:56:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Arent*
21:57:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> ("youre not" the guilty one )
21:57:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> On reread it sounds like in being a dick, but im agreeing that it shouldnt be so easy to make mistakes
21:58:05 <m-relay> <-​coffeeplease-:matrix.org> I stand corrected. As I know now, nothing is ever gonna get wet.
21:58:15 <slave_blocker> that lies on each users need
21:58:32 <slave_blocker> i need the pocket change as is
21:58:45 <slave_blocker> that was the reason nr 1
21:58:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> a user can send 10 outs if there are 6 dummies attached to make it look like a 16 out
21:59:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> For pocketchsnge, 
21:59:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 1. Split in half
21:59:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2. Do it again
21:59:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 3. Do it again
21:59:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 4. Wait for cake to listen to me
21:59:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 5. Have it done automatically
22:00:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> (obviously with user interaction)
22:03:12 <slave_blocker> how is a tx with 16 outs any good besides a convention that gets used a lot?
22:03:29 <slave_blocker> ringct mixes 16 ins not outs
22:03:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> A lot of services send 16 outs
22:03:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> They arent rare
22:03:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> 16 is max outs
22:04:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Employers, exchanges etc use 16 outs
22:04:41 <slave_blocker> 16 is max outs?
22:04:51 <slave_blocker> per input?
22:05:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Per tx. Coinbase can have more
22:05:29 <slave_blocker> hum
22:05:56 <slave_blocker> i did not remember that from ztm
22:06:03 <slave_blocker> thx i guess
22:06:14 <slave_blocker> too lazy to verify
22:16:30 <slave_blocker> bye ofrnxmr
22:17:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Take care
23:38:56 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> For press inquiries: press[at]getmonero[dot]org
23:38:57 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Who handles this ?
23:58:28 <selsta> core team maybe? and possibly at some point justin / sgp