05:10:03 <m-relay> <d​ooropener:monero.social> will someone tell me did I lose all my BTC? I am doing atomic swap BTC->XMR and the other never locked XMR. And so swap failed after 12 hrs so that automatically broadcast BTC refund to me.
05:10:05 <m-relay> <d​ooropener:monero.social> HOWEVER
05:10:42 <m-relay> <d​ooropener:monero.social> Now is hours later without getting my BTC back, because I saw no confirmations on the payment. That refund was sent with 17.9sat/b fee only. So I will never get that BTC back. right?
05:21:46 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Swap through what?
05:23:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Unstoppableswap?
05:23:22 <m-relay> <d​ooropener:monero.social> that one
05:23:30 <m-relay> <d​ooropener:monero.social> Unstoppableswap
05:23:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> UnstoppableSwap
05:23:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ping @inarybaron in there
05:24:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Next time, use basicswapdex or localmonero
05:24:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Binarybaron*
05:24:18 <m-relay> <d​ooropener:monero.social> will do
11:43:19 <m-relay> <t​heaarush> tuno vusvean tutival, zomvesvear zozltvesu.
13:15:51 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> What happened to bulletproofs++ implementation? I remember it was said to reduce the 2-in 1-out tx size down to ~1 kb. Is its implementation merged to monerod?
14:05:33 <m-relay> <s​needlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> I think it needs peer review https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/413 but maybe someone else can clarify
14:15:09 <plowsof> sneedlewoods new scope was deemed 'OK' and the price difference handled. : https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/358#note_22874 and cypherstack are already working to that scope, luigi1111 can merge 
17:10:52 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de/sUtNImhH2NciyyDIt5Vi2ZZ2d10ZcQ1p
17:10:53 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> What the fuck
17:11:00 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> 1:3 XMRBTC
17:11:13 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> 1:3 BTCXMR
17:24:08 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> you verified your LN destination address?
17:24:09 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Fixedfloat don't update the rate until the address is validated (the fact that it is on "Fixed Rate" tell me it did validate it but 1:3 is way wrong, I never got that issue with FF LN)
17:24:12 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> atomicwallet having the same deal
17:24:18 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> ughh
17:25:28 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> yes i just get this when trying to exchange
17:25:29 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de/qdJNtri8DbkIggDNGqcsHSltJUtpvvDd
17:25:43 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> wait
17:25:45 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> it's not LN
17:25:51 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> It's fixedfloat
17:25:54 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> you are trying to pay BTC using XMRE
17:25:57 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> XMR*
17:25:59 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Seems to be the same for everywhere else
17:26:01 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> BTC fee are like 20$
17:26:04 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> yes
17:26:10 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> try to see if you can pay with BTC LN instead
17:26:22 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> what
17:26:34 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> most payment provider accept BTC lightning
17:26:40 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> so choose btc lightning
17:26:44 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> and set FF for LN
17:26:46 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> proton doesn't
17:26:55 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/hTxbkAtuXZIZGoEdMgkMBqMd
17:27:05 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> then don't pay them if they only accept BTC
17:27:26 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> https://mempool.space/
17:27:33 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Can look there to monitor the BTC scamfees
17:29:28 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> omg
17:30:02 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's been like that since last bull powerup coupled stupid ordinals
17:30:10 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's been like that since last bull powerup coupled with stupid ordinals
17:30:42 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Next halving I guess we see >100$ scamfees as normal
17:31:04 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> When will people finally deprecate BTC
17:31:05 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> it's an exit scam at this point
17:32:07 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> When satoshi dump it all
17:32:07 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Or some other big event
17:32:08 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> But yeah, BTC unusable for it's primary designed use case thank to blockstream hijack of the project
17:34:17 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> 99.988% of btc user are just there for number go up
17:35:01 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> oh BTC is at 40K i can finalkly sell my dump before the crash
17:37:58 <great_taste> 99% of monero users are drug addicts/dealers lmao
17:40:01 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> i ain't
17:40:30 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> wait i study medicine
17:40:32 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Coffee best drug
17:40:33 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> fair paint then
17:41:03 <m-relay> <-​coffeeplease-:matrix.org> It sure is.
17:41:18 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> hmm my accountant exchanged my BTC 1.5 months ago in precious silver
17:41:21 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> great..
17:41:45 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> lol
17:42:43 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Like it's still a profit from the investment but ffs
20:09:42 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Good
20:09:48 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> At least they are users
20:13:56 <m-relay> <f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> thankfully i'm not
20:32:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> > <g​reat_taste> 99% of monero users are drug addicts/dealers lmao
20:32:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Liar
20:36:27 <RavFX> Some monero user are there for the only viable internet money tech
20:41:19 <m-relay> <f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> XMR being mentioned less despite the technology being better than BTC in every way says a lot about the market
20:42:20 <m-relay> <f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> And also how many people are on custodial wallets because keeping 12 words saved somewhere was too hard
20:44:32 <RavFX> Most people in that space are only there for number go up. Tech is irrelevent.
20:44:49 <RavFX> And BTC get a voice in normies MSM
20:45:39 <RavFX> In the very rare time they talk about the monero, they say "Privacy enhencing coin" instead of naming it, probably by fear people would actualy adopt it
20:46:18 <m-relay> <f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> and its in the context of criminals or those "right wing extremists"
20:47:27 <RavFX> indeed
21:39:14 <great_taste> nobody cares about crypto. This is all about get rich quick
21:46:59 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> well
21:47:04 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> wrong coin for that
21:53:50 <great_taste> yeah monero's price only goes down :)
21:55:22 <great_taste> xmr is at bottom now so I expect a nice bullrun