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05:32:34 <m-relay> <f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> "Hi, I have lost all my saved money in FTX scam"
05:32:37 <m-relay> <f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> 20k?
05:32:48 <m-relay> <f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> im trying not to be such a dick but damn
05:33:03 <m-relay> <f​orbidden_island:ihazurinter.net> you were that deep into it and never got your own wallet
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11:18:32 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Ask sam for it back
18:23:51 <great_taste> bisq always pays too high of a transaction fee... there's no setting to change that apparently
18:35:16 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Anything using btc will have huge fees 😅
18:35:37 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> We should look at ltc bch atomic swaps
18:46:12 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> on btc side, right? How much did you pay?
18:53:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "too high"
18:54:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Would you rather "too low"?
18:54:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Basicswapdex has ltc
18:55:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And soon bch
18:55:36 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> I wanted to see the explicit amount. I derive some shadenfraude pleasure from btc tx fees.
18:56:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Tbh, me too
18:56:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Im giggling like a schoolgirl
18:56:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Chain designed to support those who have the most money
18:56:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> #freedommoney 😂
18:57:30 <great_taste> I am speaking relatively
18:57:52 <great_taste> is there a way to configure this?
18:58:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> relative to?
18:58:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Mempool.space?
18:58:12 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> post the tx fee first
18:58:13 <great_taste> there should be but I cant find any
18:58:20 <great_taste> any info on this
18:58:48 <great_taste> relative to current acceptable fees to get a transaction to go through in a couple hours
19:01:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> So..
19:01:09 <great_taste> "How much did you pay?" $8
19:01:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Itnpaid a LOW fee?
19:01:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> A good fee targets mid of current block
19:01:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> High fee targets higher than the current block
19:02:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> A low fee targets "a couple hrs"?? 
19:02:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> thats 12+blocks behind
19:02:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Insane
19:02:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Your tx may never confirm at that rate
19:02:37 <great_taste> you cant choose the fee in Bisq
19:02:43 <great_taste> really annoying'
19:02:58 <great_taste> It just pays as much as possible to get the tx through fast
19:03:13 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> 8 bucks is not "too high" in the current mempool state
19:03:25 <great_taste> "as little as possible" rather, kinda
19:03:27 <m-relay> <r​eelspooky> hey
19:03:28 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> I was expecting you to complain that bisq made you pay 30 bucks or something
19:03:48 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> the way you described
19:03:52 <great_taste> yeah not the end of the world
19:04:07 <great_taste> but I'd rather pay $4
19:04:09 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> sorry bro but get used to it. 8 dollar is really the lowest you can go, probably, without waiting for days to get a conf on the bloated btc chain.
19:04:24 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> you can't. not anymore. it is btc.
19:08:25 <great_taste> but bisq creates 3 txes in one trade I think
19:08:45 <great_taste> I have never fully understood the steps involved
19:09:49 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> I don't get your point? It doesn't matter specifically how bisq constructs its btc transactions (as long as it uses segwit, which is the cheapest tx-form in btcland)
19:09:57 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> the btc is entering its high-fee regime/era.
19:10:05 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> it will only get worse before it gets even worse.
19:10:28 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> afaik, if you are sincere in your curiousity, you should ask that question in the bisq forums.
19:12:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Also, i assume answer youd get from maxi's to be entertaining
19:12:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "why are you spending btc?!"
19:13:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "btc isnt meant to be spent on chain! Use custodial LN"
19:13:13 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> "uhmm sweaty, you should've been using LN already"
19:13:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nvm
19:13:32 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> "you don't have a channel opened yet? that's problematic"
19:13:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> "use ln on liquid. #2024"
19:13:35 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> instant red card if you mention monero (yellow/orange is skipped)
19:13:53 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> probably will be one of the best memes of 2024
19:14:01 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> funniest*
19:14:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Liquid is literally adding ln
19:15:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ln ontop of a custodial sidechain or whatever tf liquid is 😂
19:15:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> We should LARP in monero
19:15:29 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> I heard they hit 4 transaction/day a month ago. So, yeah, they need to solve their network congestion. /s
19:15:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> hey everyone, check out moneronscaling
19:15:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its called "mymonero"n🤣
19:16:17 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> We have an even better one, called "wallet of fluffyhagen" and its custodial mymonero
19:16:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> You dont need keys at all! Just a password 🥳
19:18:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> My favorite wallet was binance!
19:56:33 <m-relay> <s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Will liquid network process ofac sanctioned coins?
19:58:25 <m-relay> <s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Someone should reach out to Back or that Grumbles guy
20:01:23 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> they don't have the balls
20:26:04 <slave_blocker> https://github.com/slave-blocker/voider_2