00:24:16 <m-relay> <t​ony42c9:envs.net> Hi, I am new to monero and crypto in general. I would like to understand how tor plays a part in monero? Is it advised to use tor with monerod? Basically, I am not so sure what I am supposed to be using tor for.
00:33:26 <ofrnxmr> You can use tor with your monerod to 1. Relay transactions to other nodes via onion (tx-proxy) 2. Connect your wallet via onion (rpc) (onion set to restricted rpc port) 3. disable incoming connections as a consequence of syncing blocks over tor exit nodes (--proxy clearnet connections to tor)
01:14:39 <m-relay> <t​ony42c9:envs.net> So in the case of running a node on a local machine, with a complete blockchain, are any of those applicable?
03:20:46 <ofrnxmr> Depends on your risk tolerance. Most people do only 2. 1+2 is ideal for those hoping to run monero in a more private manner than default. 3 is "paranoid" mode
03:41:34 <m-relay> <t​ony42c9:envs.net> I would like anything to do with monero going over tor. Can you elaborate on 1 and 3? No need for #2.
03:44:01 <ofrnxmr> Without 1, transactions are relayed to and from clearnet nodes. Node a 123.123.123.123 sends tx to node b 124.124.124.124 etc
03:45:26 <ofrnxmr> With --tx-proxy and --anonymous-inbound, transactions are sent out over onion to peers who have anonymous-inbound enabled. Anonymous inbound lets you set the hidden service to advertise to peers 
03:46:29 <ofrnxmr> If i have a node with --tx-proxy, and connect my wallet to it to send a tx, instead of it going through dandelion++ over clearnet, it will only send the tx to a hidden service (onion or i2p)
03:47:06 <ofrnxmr> Which gives you both the privacy of using a remote onion, + the security of running your own node. This is 1
03:48:28 <ofrnxmr> For 3, --proxy forces those 123.123.123.123 peers to be connected to over tor (exit nodes. Same as if you visit a clearnet website over tor). 
03:49:32 <ofrnxmr> Due to the nature of tor / exit nodes, you cannot receive incoming connections while maintaining privacy, so incoming connections to your public ip arent possible
04:46:53 <m-relay> <t​ony42c9:envs.net> Thank you. If you only do #1 are you exclusively going over onion for P2P? Or do you need a combination of #1 &  #3 (is monerod still connecting to clearnet?)
04:52:57 <m-relay> <t​ony42c9:envs.net> Avoiding clearnet entirely would be excellent. If I am able to participate entirely over onion that would be excellent.
05:13:19 <ofrnxmr> You arent able to participate entirely over onion.
05:16:16 <ofrnxmr>  p2p blockchain sync is "clearnet only" (no onion), but 3. Allows you to connect over tor by using a basic socks proxy (same as using tor browser to visit a website)
05:17:05 <ofrnxmr> Incoming connections arent possible with 3, so while your node will work just fine, it will not be able to contribute to nodes who similarly do not have incoming connections enabled
05:17:36 <ofrnxmr> Meaning the only nodes youll ever connect to, are nodes which DO have clearnet incoming enabled
05:23:53 <m-relay> <t​ony42c9:envs.net> I must have misunderstood some things that I have read elsewhere. With add-peer and onion seed nodes, does this not enable blockchain sync entirely over onion?
06:11:01 <ofrnxmr> correct. It does not
06:12:54 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Monerod can discover/connect to other tor nodes ?
06:31:34 <m-relay> <t​ony42c9:envs.net> polar9669: I thought so from what I've read but I suppose not. https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/node-i2p-zero.html and https://github.com/monerodocs/md/blob/master/docs/running-node/open-node-tor-onion.md
08:30:07 <ofrnxmr> "I'm curious to know why ofrnxmr, despite being banned, was able to participate to this meeting. He seems to be surprised himself, since in the log above we can see him asking if he is evading a ban, people answering positively to his question and then nothing happening when he decides to ignore the ban. To this day, he is still polluting community
08:30:07 <ofrnxmr> channels despite the ban." - erc
08:31:58 <ofrnxmr> Sorry tony42c9 - i think erciccione had a problem with my tone when responding to you. "pollution"
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21:51:14 <plowsof> Monerobull, has the discord spammer been banned 
21:51:36 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> the one from last time? obviously
21:52:51 <plowsof> Thanks (thought it happened 1 min ago)
21:54:02 <selsta> it happened 2h ago
21:54:42 <m-relay> <1​23bob123:matrix.org> timezone issue
21:56:42 <plowsof> Dan, just blind 
21:58:00 <plowsof> Can we stop bridgerton from spamming multiple rooms at the same.time? Do many people use the bridge in #monero? Have there been complaints about bridgertons removal in community?
21:58:30 <plowsof> I mean, becoming read only in community