02:24:12 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> We're still early but your suggestion is helpful.
02:24:13 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help.
02:24:35 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> I'm glad you've found a temporary solution until hopefully something better comes along.
02:30:44 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Cake tends to be reliable, & helpful, I know cake pay had a rough patch last year but you can easily reach out to the support team, & they should be able to resolve your issues.
02:30:45 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Your best bet is usually emailing them, using the chat support in the app, or reaching out like ofrnxmr suggested, many people affiliated with cake are also in most monero groups. 
02:30:45 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> https://cakewallet.com/#contact
02:31:38 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Do you have a link, I'm curious 🤔.
03:46:27 <apotheon> mesaoptimizer: Actually, I was the person who recommended those two books.  I don't know that they're usually recommended in this channel generally, but I recommend them generally.
03:47:04 <Guest5> what were the books?
03:47:06 <apotheon> A couple other books to throw on the pile are Homebrew Industrial Revolution by Kevin Carson and In Defense of Anarchism by Robert Paul Wolff.
03:47:32 <apotheon> Guest5: An Agorist Primer, by SEK3, and Second Realm: Book on Strategy, by Smuggler and xyz.
03:47:48 <Guest5> ty for the reccos!
03:47:52 <apotheon> quote welcome
03:48:08 <apotheon> All are pretty easy/short reads except Homebrew Industrial Revolution.
03:49:12 <apotheon> I'm gradually working my way through The Monero Standard now, but I'm not sure yet whether I'd recommend it.
03:49:31 <apotheon> pre-ordered the hardcopy for my shelf
03:50:55 <apotheon> I wonder if there's a great civilian opsec book addressing both cyberspace and meatspace.  I'd love to broaden my understanding of these topics, but so far opsec stuff seems to be mostly a matter of oral tradition and the military industrial complex.
07:09:07 <Inge> Maybe something like "How to Disappear: Erase Your Digital Footprint, Leave False Trails, and Vanish without a Trace" by Frank Ahearn and Eileen C. Horan
11:24:09 <mesaoptimizer> apotheon: oh yeah it was probably you since anarkio isn't usually on IRC
13:49:46 <m-relay> <t​om:hackliberty.org> thanks for the answer, I understand you, I'll keep it in mind
13:54:18 <m-relay> <t​om:hackliberty.org> Hi all . I would appreciate any advice or recommendations. Please tell me what other marketplaces there are besides:
13:54:18 <m-relay> <t​om:hackliberty.org> 1.https://moneromarket.io
13:54:19 <m-relay> <t​om:hackliberty.org> 2.https://monerica.com/
13:54:19 <m-relay> <t​om:hackliberty.org> 3.https://xmr.director
14:26:47 <ofrnxmr> Particl's
14:30:50 <m-relay> <e​udaimon36:matrix.org> yea, then he can spend a month trying to get basicswapdex working
14:34:18 <ofrnxmr> Particl marketplace != basicswap
14:34:29 <ofrnxmr> And basicswap seems super easy now (?) 
14:34:48 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> How much time does it take for my balance to become spendable
14:35:00 <ofrnxmr> 20mins (10 confirmations)
14:35:02 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> I have already received more than 10 confirmations
14:35:19 <ofrnxmr> Is it a block reward? If not, 10 conf.
14:35:32 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> The wallet still shoes will till balance gets dependable even after like an hour
14:35:52 <ofrnxmr> which wallet are you using?
14:36:21 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> I withdrew xmr from my pool balance to my wallet
14:36:50 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> I used official desktop monero wallet
14:37:05 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> I withdrew from moneroocean pool
14:37:43 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> Waited for like 1.5 hrs after withdrawal took place to spend it
14:38:12 <ofrnxmr> What version of monero desktop wallet are you using?
14:38:30 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> Latest 18.1 i guess
14:38:37 <ofrnxmr> Seems like a very solvable issue, likely a problem with software version or the connected node 
14:38:58 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> 18.3.1*
14:39:22 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> My node should also be updated though
14:39:40 <ofrnxmr> correct version. Local node? In bottom left corner, are both lines showing synced?
14:39:41 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> Maybe network issue then
14:39:56 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> Yeah they were synced
15:45:58 <RavFX> I also got issue with basicswap, like send nero (work fine), send more nero later (no show). Node was synced and basicswap was showing the last block number. If it's still no show, you can get the wallet file from the basicswap installation and open it with feather and fish your monero our.
20:20:17 <ofrnxmr> https://prezi.com/view/ZmeQ4FeL8Tu0DD64Ys0R/
20:27:20 <trask> ./xmrig --donate-level 2 -o pool.supportxmr.com:443 -u  <adress> -k --tls -p <pass>
20:27:59 <trask> so how long time should i expect to wait for pay from my 5950x with limited cpu to 20%?
20:28:30 <trask> can you suggest a better pool for either speed on the pay or amounts?
20:31:07 <ofrnxmr> Dont mine to supportxmr pls and thx
20:34:24 <trask> sure more an example, what is better?
20:34:48 <ofrnxmr> If instant gratification is your thing: mine usi; p2pool - easiest is gupax.io . If high pay: moneroocean on rx/0
20:34:56 <ofrnxmr> Using* p2pool
20:35:05 <trask> perfect answer :)
20:36:32 <trask> hope to do first 1 then the other
20:39:44 <ofrnxmr> The first is really all you need. The second is good if you want to help pump the price of monero and still be able to pay the bills