01:45:18 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> Simplified Privacy’s Shadow Rebel appeared on the Monero Talk podcast, to discuss the new Session bot software we've been creating.  This would allow for the uncensored distribution of content, even under the harshest conditions such as an outright Monero ban.
01:45:18 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> See the instance setup yourself, by sending a message on Session to the ID: “MoneroTalk”
01:45:19 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> One word, without quotes.  You can download session at getsession.org
01:45:19 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> It’s a very long podcast, but he starts at 1 hour 17 minutes in,
01:45:20 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> https://www.monerotalk.live/digital-privacy-w-simplified-privacy-monero-price-report-news-more-epi-152
07:31:20 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> village idiot (SimplifiedPrivacy.com): why give the attention to session app?
07:31:46 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> They have a superfluous monero-fork coin that's needed for their app.
07:33:06 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> That's one red flag. Also, they are trying to push their own anonymity layer, which, again, tries to reinvent the wheel instead of using tor or i2p networks.
07:34:07 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Next, recently they have proposed to ditch their scamcoin and rebrand it. They have been trying to distance themselves from the "privacy coin rherotic" for the aim of greater centralized exchange listings.
07:34:33 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> This is another redflag: bending the knee to the enemy's narrative for the immediate financial gain.
07:35:01 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Session now has a quite good competitor: simplex.chat
07:35:18 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> It uses tor, it doesn't try to incorporate a scam token.
07:35:40 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Simplex also doesn't need phone numbers nor email. Why not embrace simplex, instead of session?
07:56:15 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> Lokinet and i2p are really different
07:57:01 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> Lokinet is designed to support the IP, not just TCP or UDP.
07:57:54 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> Now i agree, they focused on their coin because they want financial as it is their full time job.
07:58:40 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> But the Llarp (lokinet/session protocol) is open-source and they have done a decent job imo
07:59:39 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> Their incencitives crypto not taking was just predictable. They wanted to try, they did it, it is failing. Nothing of a red flag imo
08:01:39 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Redflag: they try to push their own coin for their anonymity network
08:02:10 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Nah thanks. I'll use tor/i2p
08:02:35 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> Bro if you think like that Nym should also be a scam. But they're sponsoring monerokon
08:03:00 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> I have no opinion about nym yet. Why are you bringing it up? Convo was aboht session and its scammy underlying infra
08:03:08 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> About*
08:03:14 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> You want to talk about nym?
08:04:22 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> Because nym is also, by your words: *trying to push their coin for their anonymity network*
08:04:47 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> .
08:05:57 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Last I checked, session's token was trying to rebrand. And their github issue on that topic was a total shitshow, with many people feeling like rugpulled.
08:06:03 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> That's my contention.
18:09:29 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> While we try to weed out risky sponsors it's not a guarantee that accepted sponsors aren't scammers/won't scam in the future
19:23:55 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> I completely disagree with you.  SimpleX is government domain names, it’s federated like Matrix.  The only difference is your input and output go to different servers.  Further, I question the decentralization of SimpleX, as most people use the dev’s servers.  Despite making a self-host script, and promoting a free instance of SimpleX server at our expense, SimpleX has no busi<clipped message>
19:23:56 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> ness model and no decentralization.
19:23:56 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> On top of all of this, you demonstrate a clear lack of understanding that this was about censorship and not purely privacy.
19:25:25 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> People mouth off about altcoins, meanwhile SimpleX is completely centralized because it has no incentive to run a server.  The same way you mouth off disrespectfully, is how Bitcoin Maxis treat you.  They say, k4r4b3y is just using a Bitcoin fork monero.
19:26:11 <tenten89> do anyone believe that exist a crypto more fair in mining than monero
19:27:03 <tenten89> i was checking solana and i c that the bigger miners are coinbase,binance etc
19:28:40 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Dude..
19:30:38 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Simplex has the incentive for running your own server: your group chat has a dedicated routing servers and thus you have less latency, better delivery of your messages in the simplex group chats of your own moderating.
19:30:41 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> Simplified Privacy paid for a server to self-host SimpleX for the community for free.  And made tutorial videos with staff paid for by the company for no benefit other than promoting the tech.  In sharp contrast, you’ve done nothing but use a keyboard to type dribble.
19:31:42 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Mouthing off about oxen vs. "Mouthing off about monero" aren't even the same thing. At least Monero has its redeeming qualities which make mouthing off about it baseless. Oxen, on thw other hand, what redeeming qualities does it have??
19:31:45 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> What are you talking about?  If your goal is to blend in, what do you care if there’s more servers.  You’d be identifying your conversations all linked to the same servers.
19:32:18 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> It got dumped into the abyss, it has no users. And it recently tried to change its name and ticker.
19:33:00 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> If you actually listened to the MoneroTalk or read any of our documentation, Oxen backs Session.  Session enables for completely separated DNS and IPs from physical locations for uncensored free speech.  Far beyond Tor.  Far beyond IPFS.
19:33:26 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> The price of the coin is completely different from the real world utility or potential for it to be used
19:34:46 <m-relay> <s​hadow:simplifiedprivacy.is> Did you check out the Session bot?  No, you’re just fuckin mouthing bro.  We’re talking about enabling trading and communication in the face of tyranny.
19:34:59 <m-relay> <k​4r4b3y:karapara.net> Aight.
20:08:43 <tenten11> παλικαρια ειστε εδω
20:13:23 <sugarpuff> anyone see their nodes start to do this:
20:13:23 <sugarpuff> > Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 3073426 -> 3368634 [Your node is 295208 blocks (1.1 years) behind]
20:13:23 <sugarpuff> And when your restart the node it goes back to being sync'd? Attack of some sort?
21:26:23 <selsta> sugarpuff: you can ignore it or ban their IP
21:27:00 <selsta> no need to restart the node