13:11:05 <m-relay> <c​rz:matrix.org> Hi!
13:29:14 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/suggestion-elaborate-how-to-get-monero/16817
13:29:18 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> thoughts?
13:52:14 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> There also CEX without KYC ;)
13:52:14 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Like MEXC and TradeOgre
13:53:42 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> For 4. There is also FixedFloat that is quite reliable
13:53:42 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> And Trocador & intercambio that are kind of meta swapper (they look at many swapper and propose best rate)
13:54:47 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Thanks!
14:36:45 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://libreddit.bus-hit.me/r/Monero/comments/11rinux/fixedfloat_is_holding_my_funds/
14:38:24 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://libreddit.bus-hit.me/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/18oh9ol/fixedfloat_have_placed_my_funds_on_hold/kehgmse/
14:38:57 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> it is on https://monero.observer/blacklist/
14:39:06 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Is that one from that dude that "got it from Bisq": but never proved to fixed that he got it from Bisq?
14:39:06 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Most if not all Swapper do that actually, even the one you listed
14:39:08 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/yCqFJOHpWpKqYMroFecHuThE
14:40:33 <ofrnxmr> Yep
14:41:00 <ofrnxmr> Fixedfloat only has clean btc
14:41:16 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Best place to get BTC without KYC...
14:42:08 <ofrnxmr> For cash? Bisq or agoradesk
14:42:40 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> >Most if not all Swapper do that actually, even the one you listed
14:42:41 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> hmm every service you mentioned when looped up, there are threads of freeze incidents
14:43:08 <ofrnxmr> hello, those swappers dont freeze, the exchange does
14:43:27 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I mean, if you need to spend BTC or LN because the place you shop don't accept monero.
14:43:28 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Or if you want to send BTC to a CEX, fixedfloat got you covered.
14:43:28 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> But yeah if you want to get btc from cash, you have to use bisq or agoradesk, but I would rather just use agoradesk/localmonero and get monero directly,
14:43:30 <ofrnxmr> Theyre just front ends into kraken, binance etc
14:44:17 <ofrnxmr> "I mean, if you need to spend BTC or LN because the place you shop don't accept monero." < yea, i used FF to get clean coins to spend 
14:44:38 <ofrnxmr> They never block xmr deposits 
14:45:36 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> XMR are clean by default (assuming you did not steal them from binance to send them directly to the swapper or something like Eve-Alice-Eve)
15:40:27 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/DBviSInmrsehxoDGpLeaLhvW
15:41:01 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> Maybe few using it. Worth posting anyway
15:57:20 <snex> for anyone who mines, the xmrvsbeast hashrate raffle winners are now chosen using the monero blockhash as a seed rather than kernel.rand so they can be independently verified :)
21:32:07 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> Hi.  What is the correct chat room to get help.  I cannot get past my firewall to download the Monero stuff
21:34:26 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> I am running Windows 11 Pro on a laptop
21:41:00 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> wdym by firewall?
21:41:00 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> You can't download or windows delete what you download?
21:42:08 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> I decided to shutdown the Windows firewall temporarily.  I am now running Monero GUI.  Restarting firewall now
21:42:31 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> You can add app exclusions in Windows.
21:42:39 <snex> mainstream "protection" tools will always report monero related things as malware
21:42:51 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> Sorry....you are talking to an old fart.....
21:42:52 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, for the antivirus.
21:42:53 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I did not know that the firewall could block it, never got me issue
21:43:16 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> not sure how to add the exclusions
21:43:24 <m-relay> <j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Are you using windows defender?
21:43:45 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Open start menu
21:43:45 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> type exclusion...
21:44:02 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/LiaDAbipjXFSVUtbLYvQdZoT
21:45:13 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> OK....I am on the page called Virus and Threat protection
21:46:00 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> click on "Manage settings" under Virus & threat protection settings
21:46:16 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Then in the bottom, you can click on "Add or remove exclusions"
21:46:50 <m-relay> <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Then in there you can add exclusion and specify the folder of your monero stuff (like monero gui, feather wallet and xmrig)
21:47:33 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> Perfect....I did put stuff in a Monero folder.....so I can just add that....
21:48:07 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> OK....I see it in the list.   the only thing in the list.  🙂
21:48:24 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> Thanks so much for your help!!
21:49:32 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> to make things easier you should download the zip file of monero gui (if using that) and not the installer.exe
21:50:33 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> so I tried both, and ended up using the monero gui....I got lucky.  I am now creating my wallet.  Thanks again!!
21:51:52 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> then you put that zip inside your already-excluded folder.. then you extract it in there (i've helped people in person who are unable to double click their mouse, instead they click..click and drag things around the screen so we need to know what level of 'old fart' you are)
21:53:03 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> I am LMAO
21:53:28 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> I am already running the GUI....all good.
21:53:32 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> but I am an old fart
21:55:01 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> I appreciate all the support y'all have provided.  I would have like the Monero webiste to be a little more helpful....I struggled for a bit because the documentation was not clear on the steps necessary to overcome the firewall issue.
21:55:28 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> It just said, your firewall/anti-virus might be a problem
21:56:07 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> I have my recovery phase and now moving forward.....
22:06:22 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> Wallet is synchronizing.....looks like this will take a while....is that normal?
22:08:13 <selsta> how many blocks remaining?
22:08:32 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> 3011939
22:09:03 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> 3006539
22:10:12 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> 3000703
22:11:33 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> will this thing timeout?
22:12:06 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> If my laptop screen goes to sleep will the synch stop?
22:12:26 <m-relay> <r​andy.ambuel:matrix.org> Can I go take a nap (remember, I am an old fart)?
22:17:36 <plowsof> laptop sleeping will top the sync yes. i assume you selected advanced mode?
22:25:38 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> depending on your hardware specs it could take anywhere from an afternoon.. a day.. a week.. month... never to complete the process. having an SSD helps, alot.
22:26:48 <snex> if you have an older machine it might be better to point it at a public node