10:32:39 is possible to mine with xeon phi ? 12:19:16 Monero? not profitably if you pay for electricity 12:20:09 how I can steal electricity? 12:22:03 video_5856113.mp4 12:22:17 Steal it from the sun with a solar panel 12:37:45 video_27590d4.mp4 12:38:07 Or get yourself some glowing power rocks, and boil water with them 😈. 12:49:56 video_5035769.mp4 12:51:10 Just remembered the sun is essentially a giant nuclear reactor :/ 12:56:53  any quality  link that have maths about solar panel cost,performance etc 13:12:19 Some say it’s cheap, and affordable, others say $20,000 at minimum cost. 13:12:19 It’s possibly viable but not scalable for consistent returns. 13:12:19 Just depends on the hardware used, and the algorithm mined. 13:14:29 I’m basing this off of BTC mining however though since most articles I read talk about BTC. 13:14:29 I think a small setup with a jackery, and panel is probably cheaper but won’t get you a profit. 13:14:30 Whereas a full scale operation is definitely profitable but it takes a lot of dedication, and resources to get there. 13:15:28 https://github.com/mj-xmr/SolOptXMR  this one has stopped 13:16:42 That’s interesting, would be cool to see where that could go. 13:57:59 no one answered if worth to mine xeon phi co-processor 13:59:26 define "worth" 14:00:01 I just realized I could've pool mined instead of downloading the blockchain for 4 days straight. Got that RTFM treatment👌 14:01:03 ROI 14:01:33 do ROI exist for some used xeon phi on ebay 14:01:55 eBay-Artikelnr.:186174567640 14:02:01 a simple example 14:03:14 @jordan, know what i hate? When ppl speculate about facts 14:03:30 If you don't pay for electricity, you can probably ROI it in 10 years 14:04:02 77 euro? Probably faster than in 10 years 14:04:12 why so big difference with real cpu 14:04:29 Chance has it that it seems that was discussed a bit just yesterday here. See the log: https://libera.monerologs.net/monero/20240215#c332386 14:04:50 It can mine 7 kh/s, so it will mine 80 euro in less than a year 14:05:14 but if you pay for electricity, you'll pay much more than that 14:05:39 I didn't realize they're so cheap now 14:07:17 they have ROI in < one year ! 14:07:28 this is very interesting 14:07:34 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/agoradesk.com/XQduLNeicJfdFThdrBxUYLZg 14:08:10 howto  measure before buying their hashrate 14:08:29 on benchmark monero there is now xeon phi example 14:09:24 You buy one, then submit the first benchmark 14:10:14 they have ROI only if you don't pay for electricity 14:10:24 and also manage to run XMRig on it 14:12:39 i have 4 E7- 4870 and they produce 10.2 kh/s so xeon phi is definitely better 14:12:59 @ ofrnxmr I’m not speculating, it’s just hard to make a concrete estimation based off of inconclusive data, & multiple variables. 14:13:00 Crypto mining can be profitable but for most people it’s not. 14:13:00 Solar just adds another uncertain variable since you can get tax write-offs, etc. but the panels can be costly, & might not work to fill capacity. 14:13:01 So, I was responding with what I skimmed. 14:14:46 "That’s interesting, would be cool to see where that could go." << we know where 14:20:13 It seems like an interesting idea, that is what I’m saying. 14:20:39 An idea that a few people are already running in production 14:23:13 Lesoto had said “this one has stopped”, and reading briefly the GitHub of the programmer it had seemed to me as if there was a funding issue which could cause it to become defunct. 14:23:13 It’s a cool idea, and I hope that it stays alive. 14:27:22 Mj-xmr is a scammer 14:27:23 And endor00 is sick 14:29:29 You might want to refrain from speaking of things you have no knowledge about 14:29:40 You claimed to be sick 14:30:31 The finer details of your sickness arent important. Thats the reason given for why the ccs is not completed, is it not? 14:30:46 He has been healed 😮! 14:30:46 (I’m making a joke to bring some light humor) 16:45:35 I wish bisq was a monero wallet 16:46:06 You wish it wasnt peer to peer xD 16:47:05 why do you wish bisq was a monero wallet 16:47:15 Does it not have monero wallet rpc integration like basocswapdex cc ofrnxmr 16:47:33 Basicswapdex* 16:47:44 it can take a view key and monitor for incoming tx 16:48:33 so I could store xmr in it 16:51:14 you can code it and write a pull request 16:54:43 Eventually Haveno.. Would be nice indeed to have an alternative to localmonero to be able to convert XMR to local toilet paper without having to convert to BTC first (and pay the btc scamfee) 16:55:30 eventually when? its vaporware 16:55:51 soon(tm) 16:58:49 noun 1) New software that has been announced or marketed but has not been produced. 2) An advertised product, often computer software, whose launch has not happened yet and might or might not ever happen. 16:59:03 doesn't seem to fit the definition 16:59:25 Yeah, Haveno definitively there.. Tested the beta many time. 16:59:36 then why isnt it available yet 16:59:39 whats the excuse 17:00:25 I think it's (very soon)... 17:00:59 theres literally zero news updates on the website since ErCommie "left" 17:01:20 and that was over a year ago 17:01:35 and yet there has been news in other places 17:01:41 https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno releases/commits say otherwise 17:02:38 Living under a rock snex? 17:02:50 nope. living in reality. this project is a shitshow 17:03:10 In your reality nothing has happened for a year 17:03:20 they created a bunch of hype and then instead of releasing an mvp quickly theyve been just doing jack shit 17:03:49 last commit "update translations for sell limits" gime a fuckin break why are you spending time on this when theres no mvp yet 17:05:47 If you are not satisfied with progress follow your own advice and make a pull request 17:06:40 nah i know when to spot vaporware and give up on it 17:10:49 So 1 year ago when you thought it wasnt vaporware, dod you make a pull request? 17:11:36 https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/releases 17:11:52 i barely heard about it then 17:12:18 You said they created hype 17:12:32 uh yeah? they created hype around that time 17:12:32 Barely heard about it now? 17:12:40 which caused me to hear about it 17:12:54 and then i saw zero progress 17:12:58 but lots of begging 17:13:04 classic red flag for vaporware 17:13:15 Did you make an issue about the lack of progress you seen? 17:13:17 alright grandpa it's med time 17:13:41 why would i make an issue? if people want to chase dreams thats their problem 17:14:32 that's it good snex. You are more clever than the community. That's it good boy 17:16:42 Progress can be followed in #haveno #haveno-dev (irc side) 19:08:30 Is there any benefit to having root on an android device when mining with XMRig? 19:12:09 Is there any benefit to having root on an android device when mining with XMRig in Termux? 20:02:50 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Privilege escalation ? 20:39:52 Regarding syncing the blockchain as quickly as possible, is there any real benefit to tweaking `block-sync-size`? The default is "adaptive" but that doesn't say much about performance 21:13:47 Snex must not have heard the news 21:14:24 Haveno is moving to mainnet testing before binance delists, right woodser 🙃