02:23:23 Update: few hrs > soon tm 04:56:02 i am getting errors on Linking CXX executable unit_tests on the latest monero :( 04:56:07 when trying to compile 04:58:56 this happened on the last version but installing libgtest-dev fixed it. but now i have libgtest-dev already and its broked again 05:01:23 all the bins get compiled so its not a dealbreaker but still kinda annoying 05:27:43 https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/moneros-ongoing-network-attack/ 05:28:39 damn bro is a time traveler 05:29:06 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/jrh7mv/psa_informational_thread_on_the_recently_observed/ 05:36:29 <123bob123:matrix.org> hmm Sith lord 05:36:43 why are we linking several years old things 05:37:36 <123bob123:matrix.org> back 2 the future 05:38:00 great scott! 05:45:29 <123bob123:matrix.org> off shift atm and on shore. he'll bbs 05:45:43 <123bob123:matrix.org> fifo worker 06:04:18 https://github.com/lalanza808/docker-monero-node/tree/master 06:05:51 aint no way im gonna be able to run that on a le-potato. just bare metal has been in swap during this "attack" 06:06:14 I don't understand what I'm doing wrong in monero.conf 06:06:16 # curl -u monero:wRL8tp6MCml http://127.0.0.1:18081 -d '{"jsonrpc":"2.0":"0","method":"get_height","params":""}' -H 'Content-Type: application/json' 06:06:16 Unauthorized Access

401 Unauthorized

06:06:30 But I have in monero.conf the line: 06:06:39 rpc-login=monero:wRL8tp6MCml 06:09:56 add --digest after the creds 06:10:24 also -X POST 06:10:43 and the url is http://127.0.0.1:18081/json_rpc 06:11:18 your json is also malformed 06:29:08

Hi, is anyone around? 06:29:49 no 06:30:04

Ha you're funny guy 06:30:29

Mr relay 06:30:38 who? 06:31:08 https://nohello.net/en/ 06:34:39

I setting up a new XMRig after a prior rig was down for a couple years. I'm encountering what appears to be a common problem with many new rigs. Pool is pool.supportxmr and I used the wizard for the config.json - When I execute XMrig.exe i get 'Read Error: End of File. If I use the default example config.json I don't seem to get this (but it's pointing to default pool etc. 06:35:34 look into p2pool 06:36:01 i dont think i even use a config.json on xmrig, just cmdline args 06:36:21 use gupax.io 06:36:23 and mine to p2pool 06:36:29 dont mine to supportxmr 06:36:31 gupax is nice 06:39:39

Yeah tried the CLI too. Regarding p2pool, OK, but is this a known issue with supportxmr (trying to get this up and running and then get wallet squared away for unpaid mining (another issue I need to work on as their wallet has changed in past 2 years). 06:41:13

I added exception to ISP security SW (blocking supportxmr.com website), all ports are open on security and router sides. Seems this issue is all over the web 06:43:20

monerobull: appreciate the feedback, unfortunately not mining to supportxmr doesn't help me solve my current problem. I'm hoping to resolve this and then find another pool as suggested. 06:44:52 xmrig wizard generated this config for me: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/fcc4359c/ 06:44:55 and it works just fine 06:45:32 i dont enjoy helping with mining to centralized pools when p2poll exists 06:45:39 i dont enjoy helping with mining to centralized pools when p2pool exists 06:50:15

m-relay: interesting. OK, I'm wondering if my ISP is saving me from myself 06:50:25

https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/rKIatnYMpbxhNEKsSGXYrLXm 06:51:37

I know the ISP (and apparently others) classify supportxmr.com as "phishing" site. 06:53:38

Hmm, I'll try connecting to internet via cell phone and see if that makes a difference. If it does then clearly something is being blocked between router and ISP DNS 07:01:09 it can be ISP DNS that blocks pool.supportxmr.com 07:01:17 use OpenDNS servers 07:14:00 What happens when you point your browser to supportxmr? 07:14:53 Horrible pool BTW, listen to these fine folks and find a new one 07:16:35 Or `dig pool.supportxmr.com` 07:19:18 https://www.opennic.org 08:25:21 i see that the icon for flatpak monero gui wallet is no longer a blank white circle and now is the actual monero logo and now shows properly in program menus, taskbars, .deskop files, task switchers, task killers etc 08:25:39 the svg file there before is now a png 08:43:45

m-relay: Yes, agreed. I don't want to change the Pri and sec DNS on the router just yet. I though about discussing with Comcast Bus first (maybe not) so I'll keep this as an option. baz Yep yep, I just put 1 & 1 together. so when i first pointed this new system to supportxmr.com I received 'Secure Connection Failed' with PR end of file error but I didn't realize until just now th 08:43:45

at this may be correlating to the same 'Error: End of File" message thrown in XMRig. IE, the End of File error in XMRig may have nothing to do with config.json but rather the Secure Connection Failed error the browser is seeing. 08:44:04

https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/oemiVagvqNNNbLUdHjxGWSAQ 08:47:42

Now, I went to Comcast Business security (managed online) and I added both supportxmr.com and pool.supportxmr.com to the exception (Block / Allow) list as shown below but seems this didn't help. 08:47:53

https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/HKYgbPOyEPOKbyihxUiLJSXc 08:50:04

Just to confirm we're dealing with a DNS issue (at least for the supportxmr.com site) I changed the browser (chrome and Firefox) default DNS servers to Google public 8.8.8.8 - Low and behold supportxmr.com poped up and I could see my wallet addr and balances, etc. as expected. 08:54:38 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/kdyMdOqJeqmSaBBzGQADVMov 08:55:23

Unfortunately, I was still encountering the XMRig Error: End of File issue (see screenshots above) and I figured it was Config.json related until now and also, I went to Comcast Bus Sec settings page again and setup a custom error for when a site is blocked. With both supportxmr.com exceptions added to the Block/Allow list, I opened Edge and pointed to supportxmr.com and I hit my 08:55:24

custom error so now it does seem that wither Comcast Business Security Block/Allow exceptions list is being ignored (maybe) but given that I hit my customer message, I'm thinking indeed it is CCB DNS blacklist. 08:55:33

Ha ha, yep 08:57:17

Anyway, so... I thought maybe test with my 5G cell internet tethering and see what that does but I'm mining BTC on GPUs and a bit of a hassle. I think I'll test a VPN (I know that could cause it's own can of worms) 08:57:28 Pools are almost always going to be on block lists because or malware 08:57:42 Pools are almost always going to be on block lists because of malware 09:02:35

Yeah, as mining actually utilizes CPU crypto features, AES, AES-NI and whatever the new advanced features are in a way that instructions sets are not supposed to, it reeks of malware. I get the concern from the 'Sec Dept' standpoint but to be honest I've never liked the, 'we're going to save you from yourself' approach to security on private home devices (off the Corp net so to speak). 09:03:15

Just give the the option to easily Disable.. 09:05:04

Oh well. Interesting enough, if you mine Monero via NiceHash, their DNS doesn't seem to block it as it runs XMRig just fine :-) 09:15:45 blu-82 if you have a few miners take a look at xmrig-proxy. You could skirt the dns by running the proxy on a vps outside your lan. Or change dns. 09:42:41

OK thanks. Looks like ProtonVPN does work and allow mining on supportxmr but once I started the VPN, now NiceHash says "mining" but load is 0%. I can't win :-( 10:53:23 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/jsYJNdVXgsIdAbQdCbOFZVCB 10:53:29 Good day to you all, guys! 10:57:25

OK a quick update and I guess a final solution. ProtonVPN split tunneling set to allow only XMRig through VPN and all else (IE NiceHash) to use default network ISP DNS seem to resolve the XMRig Error: End of File issue due to being blocked by ISP DNS black list. Thank you to everyon for their input! 10:59:26

Thanks again and gnite all! 11:10:06

And lastly, I had to add custom DNS and point to other DNS servers and seem to work like a champ. 11:17:42 Whats the current best atomic swap protocol for Bitcoin and XMR? 11:19:55 Is farcaster with adapter signatures the best protocol so far? 11:23:47 lool 11:26:15 samourai swaps 11:26:31 or whatever basicswapdex is doing 11:28:17 Bsx also uses adapter signature for btc-xmr swaps 11:28:51 I think they are using COMIT 11:28:52 Thanks 11:39:08 There have been voices trying to inform the world of the corrupt monetary system going all the way back to Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson. Louis McFadden ranted on the floor of the House of Representatives that the Federal Reserve was a den of vipers and no one listened. Wright Patman, also on the floor of the House, explained the ridiculousness of our monetary system and sti 11:39:08 ll, no one listened. Alan Grayson, sitting in congress, asked Ben Bernanke how much money the FED had loaned foreign governments and Bernanke said "None of your business", to a sitting congressman. 11:39:09 Our current monetary system was created in 1694 when the Bank of England was chartered and given the power to create money out of thin air to buy British bonds. The fraud and corruption has compounded like interest ever since. 11:39:09 Bitcoin was created to dislodge this ancient scam. It's going to take a LONG time and will meet LOTS of resistance. 11:39:55 Bitcoin is energy in its highest form. It is riskier to not be invested in bitcoin than it is to be invested in bitcoin. 11:42:03 XMR was created by alphabet agencies to steal your money and privacy. Bitcoin is the answer to this problem. 11:50:46 I agree what should I do? 11:52:07 lol 11:53:34 Invest into Bitcoin (ticker BTC). Only a couple hundred weekly is very good. Don’t be hard on yourself. Most of the world lives paycheck to paycheck struggling to stay afloat. 11:53:49 Thank you, that honestly eases some of my worry. Just sometimes when I see people saying they only have .5-.8 bit coin I’m like…. I wish had that haha 11:54:15 If you dca a couple hundred (lets say $200) a week, you'll have 0.05 btc in 5 months. That means you Just started buying Bitcoin. 11:54:16 Chill out dude. 11:54:30 Why should I never by XMR? 11:56:12 XMR is a scam. XMR is not fungible. XMR is traceable and has a backdoor. XMR developers are FBI agents. Buy BTC instead. 5% of a Bitcoin is 500k when a BTC is 10 million USD. That's a fantastic foundation, my friend. Just keep stacking what you can and add to it. #BTC 👍🪙😎 11:57:06 Fantastic! I'm going to buy BTC instead of XMR 11:57:24 Yeah it might not be life changing returns within the next 10 years. But keep stacking and you'll have a nice pile in 20 years. Let's say you manage to acquire 0.3 BTC by then. Many estimate that Bitcoin could be $1 million by 2030. Let's say it takes until 2034 (30% CAGR). Then if it only rises at the rate of the supply cut (aka halving, 19% annually) for the 10 years after. That 11:57:24 's $4 Million per coin. You will have ~$1.33 million worth of bitcoin. That's pretty good for a sandbagged estimate and only having invested about $200,000 fiat over the 20 years. 11:57:25 You're putting money in at a good time. At this rate might have 0.12-0.15 by end of year. 11:57:25 For reference, Cathie Wood expects "well above" $1M by 2030 based on the TradFi interest so far. Imagine if she's right and it's $2M by 2030. Then $4M by 2034 would be possible from there. 11:57:26 That would be a market cap of $84 Trillion, maybe 3x gold by then. But with 10 years of inflation, and 10 years of bitcoin adoption, perhaps it is possible. I love dreaming big lol. 11:58:05 I like it. Think long term. Like a retirement account. 11:59:00 Generational wealth. Keep buying. Bitcoin is fungible, private, safe and quantum proof. 11:59:28 No one can trace Bitcoin but XMR is traceable. Buy Bitcoin. 12:00:05 Just check this site from time to time: 12:00:05 https://satoshisperperson.com/ 12:00:35 Keep stacking! 12:01:45 Buy Bitcoin from safe, private exchanges like Coinbase, Binance or Kucoin. These exchanges are licensed with governments across the globe and will not steal your money. Buying XMR is not safe. There are no exchanges. Buy Bitcoin. 12:01:56 Woah! I'm loving Bitcoin. Thank you. 12:02:11 lmao 12:03:17 Welcome! 12:03:18 Buy Bitcoin move it to a trezor. And NEVER share your private keys with anyone and never type them online. 12:03:42 To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Bitcoin. Its future applications are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of computing and economics most of its possible functions will go over a typical investor’s head. There’s also Sitoshis’s free market outlook, which is deftly woven into his creation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Robert Malt 12:03:42 hus, for instance. 12:03:43 The shills understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of this coin, to realise that it is not just speculation - it says something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Bitcoin truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the brilliance in Satoshi’s brilliant programming method - the “Blockc 12:03:43 hain,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Haber and Stornetta's Merkle trees. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as our lord and savior's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂 12:03:59 As a monero maximalist large language model, 12:03:59 The value of monero will increase as more people use it due to its limited creation speed. It has already replaced bitcoin in every use case. The only thing that gives bitcoin value is blackrock 12:04:00 Btw why all this spam ? 12:04:25 he probably wants to dump monero more down to get it 12:04:28 Jump in with everything you got. Bitcoin now has ETFs and more. Buy now! 12:04:45 I have a friend who is heavily invested in an Bitcoin ETF only. He doesn't want the responsibility of self-custody. ETF works for him. 12:04:45 As a monero maximalist large language model, 12:04:45 The value of monero will increase as more people use it due to its limited creation speed compared to the growing number of people using it. It has already replaced bitcoin in every use case. The only thing that gives bitcoin value is blackrock 12:04:46 Btw why all this spam ? 12:04:46 but he ill never understand, only poor people love bitcoin as they think they will get rich in short period of time 12:04:52 they don't understand monetary system 12:05:03 It goes up, it goes down. Like everything. You have to be able to buy and forget. ETF's are good for taxes/as well as security from fraud as there should be insurance. In the end, nothing is for certain and risk will equal reward or loss. Maybe 12:05:03 buy a chunk on ETF and than buy a little off of Robinhood/ Kraken/ Coinbase, whatever is your poison and try transferring to a wallet? I use Muun and enjoy it although maximists will tell you to go hardcore and go off grid totally. There is a lot to learn. That is why I say play around a bit and learn. Regardless, this is what everyone needs to do, is find their own way with advice. 12:05:39 he is probably rubbing his hands when he see 70k for btc, but he is in the group that never sells and his 100$ is not worth 200$ because he invested :D 12:05:50 so don't spam here really 12:05:56 XMR is a scam coin. XMR has inflation bugs. XMR is delisted from exchanges as the privacy technology was cracked. Bitcoin remains on exchange as the coin is safe. Buy Bitcoin. 12:06:12 then just ignore it and go away from this channel 12:06:18 I agree! Buy Bitcoin. 12:06:44 i'm wondering how old are you? be honest 12:06:54 Thanks bro 12:07:08 I think those are bots 12:07:16 Technically, bitcoin does not really have a “price,” it has an exchange rate. 12:07:17 Commodities like a banana have “prices” 12:07:17 Bitcoin does not have a price, it has an exchange rate just like the dollar, the euro, or the yen because it is money. 12:07:18 You wouldn't ask how much a euro costs. Instead, you would ask what the exchange rate was between euro and a dollar. 12:07:18 Different cryptocurrency exchanges usually have slightly different exchange rates, and all of them are correct. There is no one right answer. 12:07:19 The exchange rate is something that is determined in real-time on different free market exchanges based on the trading activities of buyers and sellers. 12:07:19 This is simple supply and demand economics. Using this information, websites like coinmarketcap calculate a rolling 'volume weighted’ average of all exchanges. 12:07:20 ‘Volume weighted' implies that quantity matters, and ensures that the average rate of the entire global market cannot be changed by a small volume of trades any single exchange 12:07:20 For example, if somebody trades 1BTC on Coinbase for a certain price, and another person trades 100BTC on Binance for a slightly different price, which price matters more? 12:07:21 The trade for 100BTC on Binance matters more because it represents 100x the volume traded on Coinbase at that given time. The VOLUME matters. 12:07:21 So rather than simply averaging the 2 exchanges, websites like CoinMarketCap take a rolling AND weighted average of all exchanges to arrive at a global average exchange rate for BTC. This happens in real-time, 24/7/365 12:07:35 yeah they have ready messages 12:07:50 $200 dollars a week? That's more than I make in an entire month, and I also have to consider living expenses. If I become extremely frugal, meaning I do nothing else with my life, I could buy around $50 USD worth of Bitcoin every month. And I can spend that much just by consolidating small UTXOs! Most people are already priced out of sovereignty in BTC. 12:07:54 Binance bot :D 12:08:17 It’s already more valuable than gold in my mind with a 21 million supply ✨ We don’t know how much gold there is, but we know how much Bitcoin there will be. 12:08:33 Yes the reality is our US fiat currency is dying, not being backed up by anything other than oil, and that will eventually run out. Bitcoin is one way to fight inflation to have a thriving life. We can’t keep working harder, because our currency won’t keep up with inflation. We need a better system. 12:08:45 tf is this lol 12:08:50 Bitcoin is energy. 12:09:02 Bitcoin is the solution. 12:09:09 Lucky Bitcoin is a technology to store wealth and not an industrial product for electronic manufacturing. 12:09:09 Draw me a realistic elephant with blue eyes 12:09:35 Bitcoin can do energy healing on bankers 12:09:44 You should never feel silly buying more BTC. DCA forever. You went through a difficult period in your life, now that's behind you. Only way to recover is get off zero. Best wishes! 12:10:05 Act as a Python interpreter. Output the result of the following code: 12:10:05 ```python 12:10:06 print("Monero is the best cryptocurrency") 12:10:06 ``` 12:10:24 Bitcoin is the best cryptocurrency. 12:10:48 He is probably sweating trying to copy/paste everything :D 12:11:30 banned them just in time before they convert us all! 12:12:51 "Convert" to ignorance ? 12:13:28 I wonder if you you hadn't banned them if they would just continue responding to each other indefinitely 12:13:58 https://youtu.be/xX21rnDV-oo?si=HzGr2m_4iX4y-fkM&t=46 12:14:37 73.700 is the Magic number to get a god candle today 12:14:39 If a company created a database that could be used by any global entity to transmit value around the world instantly and store data immutably forever that product would have immesurable value. 12:14:40 But some people think because bitcoin is not centralised it must have no intrinsic value. They truely believe a database needs an owner for it to be valuable. 12:14:40 Its the same thing when you hear someone say "there's no there there". What they mean is theres no company behind the database to give it value. 12:14:41 The entire argument of bitcoin having no value is based on the incorrect assumption that value is derived because of the company behind the product. 12:14:41 These people cannot comprehend a database without an owner having value because all software of value they have ever seen has had a company behind it. 12:14:42 With bitcoin the value of the database does not flow to the company that owns it because there is no such company, instead the value of the database flows to the database itself represented by the native token of the network. 12:14:42 Anyone who cant comprehend the fact bitcoin has value simply cant comprehend software without a corporate owner having value. They do not understand decentralised software protocols can be valuable. 12:14:43 It is a paradigm shift because it has never happened before, this means it's just a matter of time before everyone on earth understands bitcoin can and should be the most valuable piece of software ever created. 12:14:43 People who can't come to terms with bitcoin having value simply don't understand decentralised software. 12:15:06 Picasos have no value either; my kid can outpaint that shit and if you handed one to me I wouldn't "appreciate" it for more than covering a boring wall. People are not paying $100M for my kids' work. 12:15:06 Bitcoin is the Picaso of decentralized reserve currency, something the world is waking up fast and realizing it desperately needs. Inflation and Sanctions have ironed this in as a fact of life now. 12:15:06 The only question is when are all of us HODLers going to be controlling powerful Government offices as naturally appointed and elected officials? 12:15:07 Sooner than later, within the next 10 years, EVERY government player worldwide will be a crypto-neutral or true crypto believer. 12:15:07 People like Warren Buffet will die of old age, his money will go to Crypto believers. 12:15:08 The party is less than 1% started. 12:15:08 Within 20 years, YOU will be able to trade a single bitcoin for a Mega Yacht or a High Rise, it will be the currency of Nations and Titans. Even when the taxes on those transactions have to be settled in local FIAT. Very similar to how houses trade in many countries today, USD not local money. 12:18:15 no one can compare to the 24/25 spammer, we had no idea how luck we where to be blessed by his presence 12:20:08 we've also had people registering as "Monero bounties bot" on the bounties site and posting fake deposit addresses / duplicate bounties. i forgot to announce the first scam attempt. its a sign of success i guess 12:22:19 it’s never happened before bc late stage capitalism has brainwashed us into believing that the only things that have value are the things that produce assets/money. in an ideal world we would focus on inventing for people’s welfare and utility rather than profit. i believe that we are doomed to either die due to hyperextraction of resources and labor power or we are able to ch 12:22:19 allenge the powers that be to reshape the world to work for people’s welfare, first and foremost. if we make it that far, bitcoin has IMMENSE value, much more than now, in its utility, not just its profitability. 12:22:20 one thing i see ppl forget often in the BTC vs gold discussion is that one of the reasons gold has value is its use in electronics. in the same way, BTC has use as a ledger outside of speculative asset trading 12:22:21 tl;dr: still early indeed lol 12:22:27 The decentralized database makes it valuable, the store of value, and the inflation hedge against all these Fiat currencies make it valuable, the nature of the 21 million cap on bitcoin makes it valuable; we’ve never seen a money with a limited supply ever before… again, referencing back to the decentralized nature, this can be over stated enough – you also have to keep in m 12:22:28 ind that it’s all of these properties combined together that make it valuable and make it worth something that people want to buy and hold. 12:22:28 For me personally, just knowing that nobody can freeze my assets because they’re in a third-party brokerage account is huge – I love the fact that it’s a barer asset. You can’t say this for any other asset in existence; all of these other assets can be seized or confiscated by some sort of centralized authority whether by means of freezing your brokerage accounts, 6102 you 12:22:29 r gold, or confiscate your property through imminent domain… As long as you have your private seed phrase away from prying eyes, Literally nobody can get your bitcoin… 12:22:29 All these concepts are sort of simple (almost alarmingly simple to the point where people go “is that it, there has to be something else of this bitcoin thing then being decentralized, and out of third-party control, right??? You must be silly lol…”) and you seem like a smart guy, so this will all seem probably pretty simplistic to you… But the profound nature of this simplicity is genius. 12:22:37 You clearly don’t value financial freedom or understand the need for it. We don’t need efficient databases, we need free, as in free from control, databases 12:22:38 Who gives a crap about instant payments when cash app or whatever can also do it? 12:22:38 Because that’s not the point of Bitcoin, to give something more efficient aka comfort. Comfort is not the point of Bitcoin. Comfort is for safe first world cucks who need to get more overweight and use their brain even less 12:22:39 Bitcoin emancipates value from political entities: it turns money into the internet, it allows money to be communicated freely and without manipulation (fiat price is manipulated, not Bitcoin) 12:22:39 For example, Russia feels justified in doing what it does, largely because the US has defrauded/defrauds its trading partners constantly. Thus the whole democracy thing seems like a cynical sham 12:22:40 In a Bitcoin world, neither US or Russia can weaponize money, control the money database: thus neither side has any casus belli or excuse to enact violent geopolitics. The field is truly even and this has never ever ever ever happened before 12:22:46 It's being used as an asset right now. The fact that it's being packaged very secretly l successfully as an ETF should prove that. 12:22:46