00:01:20 thats false. coinjoins offer 0 privacy they only give anonymity 00:01:47 all coinjoin activity is public to see 00:01:57 thats not privacy dumbass 00:02:53 Yah, but that’s the general perception they want price to not nose dive and still have anonymity 00:03:35 the only reason theyre using bitcoin is because all of it goes on cex. monero is not listed on most ce 00:03:37 the only reason theyre using bitcoin is because all of it goes on cex. monero is not listed on most cex 00:03:59 liquditity is dry for monero for these hackers. they move billions which is more than the marketcap of monero 00:04:17 it has nothing to do with privacy 00:04:29 How do you add billions in liquidity to xmr without cex ? 00:05:01 you cant 00:05:27 So what’s the conclusion? 00:05:36 you have to eliminate fiat and create a circular economy according to the xmr ideal 00:06:11 Circular economy needs working light wallet, LWS is wip for how many years ? 00:07:34 Normal wallet work just fine. 00:07:35 for POS, just leave the wallet... Open? 00:07:35 For normal user, Sync won't be a problem if they use the currency regularly (If they open there phone / PC wallet at least one time a week ... Or leave it open too) 00:07:46 you can also use remote node without sync 00:07:57 its as fast as light wallet 00:08:15 I never tried that with monero. But I assume I could try with my local node 00:08:24 very minimum syncing 00:08:32 No they need instant sync wallets without consuming 10s of gb a month 00:08:38 uh lws isnt wip lol 00:08:48 On their mobile device 00:08:51 what are ppl even arguing over 00:09:00 your ignoring remote nodes 00:09:06 you dont need to sync gigabytes 00:09:40 😂 only if users knew which was a working remote node last week 00:09:41 endogenic its skepticism sunday so any criticism 00:10:06 wallets like feather automatically connect retard 00:10:06 Mine was working just fine ;) 00:10:07 even over tor 00:10:07 You need, with remote node also you need to dl blocks 00:10:10 ... aaany criticism??? 00:10:17 You are not normal 00:10:23 lol 00:10:34 Is your node included in default list of most mobile wallets ? 00:10:44 Nop, only in Feather 00:11:24 yes and on bitcoin/eth instead of spending money on data to download some blocks, you spend hundreds in fees : 00:11:58 your criticisms are against crypto in general 00:12:00 not specific to monero 00:12:23 Fees has nothing to do with how monero wallet can be better with lws 00:12:34 lol 00:12:50 remote nodes work well for this purpose 00:12:54 monero has lws support 00:13:06 They work till most public nodes are under stress 00:13:14 and when bitcoin/eth is under stress what happens? 00:13:18 dave do you not run a lws? 00:13:32 go pay $50 for a single tx 00:13:49 100s of electrum nodes , don’t tell me you never used btc 00:13:49 cant wait to spend $49 on groceries and be left with $0 and 0 groceries 00:14:06 i have used btc and under stress the mempool is fucked 00:14:20 And the fees moon easily in the 30's 00:14:20 transactions have taken me 24 hours+ for one confirmation 00:14:32 Again nothing to do with nodes , that’s their block size issue 00:14:39 I got TX that got stuck in the constipator for over 40 hours 00:14:51 dave wen u hosting lws??? 00:14:56 there are 100s of monero nodes 00:15:01 make TX with max fee, BTC TX flood begin... hooo nooo, I guess my swap will fail 😂 00:15:34 during high congestion i use rbf like 10 times 00:15:46 $10 fee -> $20 -> $30 -> $35 -> $40 -> $50 00:15:48 Which are not public nor simple mode on gui that would have worked on this case 00:16:04 Yeah, that's the way to go, always enable RBF 00:16:07 literally feather wallet it comes default 00:16:26 you click use remote node and it selects a working one 00:16:27 just like electrum 00:17:19 There are plenty of flaws with monero, just saying all is well isn’t going to make ppl adopt it. 00:17:51 Then short it with max leverage 00:17:53 no one is going to adopt it now. it goe sback to my point of this being too early 00:18:01 the flaws are being addressed but this takes time 00:18:19 devs are trying their hardest. the work they do aint easy 00:18:31 The "attack" was nice stress test, I which it lasted a little more as I did improve my node 00:18:44 The "attack" was nice stress test, I wish it lasted a little more as I did improve my node 00:19:14 again this is with all crypto 00:19:26 if there were perfect crypto none of us would be here and there wouldnt be 10K+ coins trying to do something 00:19:46 xmr is one of thousands and the best one for privacy right now 00:20:18 Binance took away coin margin to do that 😂 00:20:39 There other exchanges 00:20:46 like MEXC 00:21:01 why using Margin, just use Futures 00:21:26 Allows xmr as margin ? 00:21:28 binance futures still exists for xmr even though its delisted 00:21:29 You don’t short with stables 00:21:29 You long it 00:21:36 Coin-M 00:21:39 Oh, did not know that 00:22:05 shut up fucking liar 00:22:13 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xmr.mx/HLTeepLsxWDpoVCAWhkMbjhn 00:22:37 Liar? I didn’t say you can’t lol, learn to read 00:22:52 liar 00:23:01 you can still trade margin with futures on binance with xmr 00:23:37 You are stupid like your name, you don’t short with usdt because you can get liquidated, if you 1x short with xmr you can never get liquidated 00:24:03 Monero going to zero (dollars)... once there are zero dollars circulating in the world. 00:24:07 you can get liquidated with coin shorts you retard 00:24:58 lol go try short 1x btc on btc perp and see what’s the liquidation 00:25:07 this sounds like.. what... something for #monero-markets maybe? 00:25:23 dave went off topic because his points are shit 00:25:42 what ever happened to scholarly work 00:26:00 lol keep dreaming 00:26:03 surely anyone's claims can be modeled or monitored and analyzed 00:26:14 And hope monero can adopt without radical changes 00:26:26 Can be adopted * 00:26:32 ^ 00:26:32 monero is adopted 00:26:41 and will continue to be 00:26:45 but it has some technical issues 00:28:18 these technical issues will take years to fix 00:28:28 the real ones, yes 00:28:34 which is fine by me because were early 00:28:39 not anymore 00:28:44 im willing to take that risk 00:28:51 Yep, can rush it all in one months. 00:28:52 Fine for me too, the more time it take the more I accumulate 00:28:54 fcmp and seraphis are 5 years minimum 00:29:34 ravfx do u think you may have an incentive therefore to slow or disrupt monero's ... what 00:29:38 development? 00:30:00 the marketcap is only $2 billion 00:30:02 Like triptych 00:30:03 [[Citation needed]] 00:30:05 citation is @dave.jp:matrix.org 00:30:20 Non, it's fine if it moon right now. But I won't complain if I can accumulate more 00:30:31 for you, for sure 00:30:47 I was actually referring to this claim of yours 00:30:49 but one wonders sometimes 00:30:57 this is not my claim 00:31:09 ^ 00:31:13 sorry it wasnt dave hes a retard 00:31:18 it was syntehticbird 00:31:23 MRL logs 00:32:35 but yes 5 years is a long time 00:32:36 in crypto thats a fucking long time 00:32:38 Everyone can see who it is 00:32:53 5 years in crypto is like 10 real life yars 00:32:55 seraphis isnt the issue 00:32:58 They might get FCMP before Seraphis if it's possible, I think I did read that in the dev stuff lately 00:33:09 I recall reading a "2 years" figure while skimming the last mrl meeting, from an actual researcher - not some rando's ass 00:33:18 yes ukoe said its min 1.5 years fcmp + ring 00:33:19 But what do I know 00:33:25 thats with ring signatures dumb ass 00:33:25 Read again 00:33:33 with seraphis its 5 years+ years 00:33:36 seraphis + fcmp 00:33:53 ring + fcmp approx 1. 5 years 00:34:23 Such a chill and civil attitude... almost sounds familiar 00:34:42 when you argue with @dave.jp:matrix.org for 2 hours straight the civil attitude goes 00:34:50 Anyway 00:34:55 also the retard in monero community saying dog coins are better than monro 00:35:16 Thin skin no material 00:35:28 also free ofrnxmr 00:35:46 Ok ofrn 00:35:58 ofrn is saving monero 00:36:00 Clowns are free to go wherever they please 00:36:14 Doesn't mean we have to listen to them 00:36:23 And buying wow 00:36:29 unfortunately today we do 00:36:37 its skepticism sunday 00:37:05 you take things too seriously. ofrn is working hard on atomic swaps with basicswap and other monero issues 00:38:03 Not denying that, Mormons can’t differentiate 00:38:03 are you a wow shill? 00:38:04 Normies * 00:39:28 Ah yes, making alts to spam garbage - that will show everyone you're better 00:39:32 shouldve listened to coffee 00:39:46 im not ofrnxmr just respecting genius devs on monero nothing wrong with that 00:39:50 No I don’t shill dog coins 00:40:24 ofrnxmr is too busy to make alt and speak to imbeciles like dave 00:41:00 then why are you here? you seem to hate xmr think its incompetent but dont offer any alternatives? 00:41:49 I wish Musk did not lie, I would have got that starlink thing if he did accept that stupid dog coin like he said he would 00:42:09 I hold xmr since 2016/17 , I know what xmr is right now ; I don’t need hopium dreams 00:42:12 I own 0 doge coin 00:42:21 just swap to pay with that dog poop 00:42:37 make sense now you bought top and sad 00:43:07 lucky i cam to monero 2019 00:43:20 16/17 was top ? Take your meds 00:43:57 you liar 00:44:15 2017 - early 2018 was one of the top at $400 00:44:17 you dont know shit liar 00:44:21 2k18 was the top 00:44:31 and 2k21 00:44:37 Are you a kid ? 00:44:45 ur a liar 00:44:47 wait non actually end of 2k17 00:44:51 if you bought not during the top you wouldnt be here 00:45:01 you bought end of 2017 i know 00:45:09 it rug for 2017 christmas like btc 00:45:39 freeofrnxmr 00:45:43 I began to load in 2k19 00:45:59 same here 00:46:05 Make some sense before raising slogans 00:46:16 top buyer 00:46:33 i wish this had feature to change nickname of other users. i would change yours from dave to "top buyer" 00:47:11 and this why they ban price discussion because it becomes stupidity 00:47:24 Boring 00:47:25 contain all of it to xmrtrader and the markets channel 00:47:45 You brought the price talk in here 00:47:50 your points were boring. hopefully someone smart comes one day to criticize and know what they talk about 00:48:07 ^^^^ 00:48:08 And you couldn’t argue 00:48:31 keep crying kiddo)))) 00:48:36 It’s not price talk 00:49:01 go to sleep good night 00:49:18 Ok go to bed sleep tight in your bunker 00:49:24 How about you both stop polluting the channel with your nonsense. If you wanna fight, take it to DMs 00:49:30 freeofrn and i stop 00:49:38 He lies and lies and lies, that's all a salesman does, he's a salesman. 00:49:40 all this started pollution after ofrn got banned 00:49:51 ofrn saved monero and the chat 00:49:53 I know, iot's an asshole 00:49:55 UNBAN OFRN 00:49:56 ofrn is a genius 00:50:18 Ofrn was banned before the spam ? 00:50:23 I really try to get that starlink last week, it was on sale and I would like a third redondancy for my internet 00:50:39