01:56:37 <5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Tranquil Ity: fresh meat! 03:28:42 Is it insecure to run xmrig-proxy as root? 03:28:45 I'm also curious if there's a already made preset systemd service w/ sandboxing 04:09:53 <5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> running anything as root is insecure in some way or another 04:51:34 <5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Someone tell tranquility that i did more kernel contribs than her today plz i want to annoy her 05:09:04 would it be a good idea to create a separate user for xmrig-proxy? 05:11:05 <5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> that's what i would do yes and additionally to that kept that in a container/sandbox/jail in case there is a major 0-day discovered 05:11:56 <5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> so that even if someone is able to inject payload to the system through the service they will only get to control a container environment 05:41:16 Any good news for monero? 05:42:23 Hi, anyone knows of a good VPS one can buy with XMR? Unsure if this is the right room, or if maybe the offtopic one would be more appropriate 05:43:45 https://njal.la/ accepts monero. 05:44:00 what are you looking for? 05:44:41 An anonymous VPS service, I suppose. 05:44:48 Thx, I'll take a look! 05:44:50 I would suggest against njalla, the prices are pretty absurd for what you're getting. 05:44:50 You can get a vps w/ same if not better specs for a year for a month of njalla's service. 05:45:03 O huh 05:45:15 Yeah, but what will you use it for? Is unlimited bandwidth a requirement, dmca ignored, etc? 05:45:18 Please suggest a better service. 05:45:45 I need to know their requirements first, they haven't even specified what location they would want it in 05:46:28 O, ya unlimited bandwidth is a requirement, it'd be great if DMCA was ignored but not a requirement. Where it is doesn't really matter as it'd mostly be making Tor connections. 05:46:30 Njalla also suspends people for poor reasons. 05:46:31 ex: them suspending a foss twitter frontend for content stored on twitter servers. 05:47:11 <123bob123:matrix.org> Yeah nitter 05:47:21 <123bob123:matrix.org> Rm -rf domain 05:47:25 I would suggest checking out ihostart & avenacloud 05:47:39 For now, monero is the top privacy coin, but I'd like to see a coin that combines privacy with practically limitless scalability. 05:48:26 It's a little hard finding providers that ignore DMCA requests nowadays 05:49:44 O, do those 2 ignore DMCA? 05:49:51 Indeed 05:50:28 Perhaps, mimblewimble is good enough privacy for p2p transactions? 05:52:26 no it isn't lol 05:52:43 https://kyun.host works well 05:53:29 isn't kyun a crunchbits reseller? 05:53:41 haven't checked them out myself, just going off of memory from browsing lowendtalk 05:54:55 AvenaCloud seems to want my address ...? 05:55:04 They don't do KYC 05:55:29 Well they also want a valid phone number 05:55:33 I can't provide that 05:55:39 Refer to my message above 05:55:40 I can't provide that, kinda defeats the whole point 05:56:00 I did, and, well, it seems they do...? 05:56:19 I think mimblewimble is good enough for privacy if you just want to hide transaction amounts..... If you also want to hide whom you send money to, then mimblewimble is not good enough. 05:56:32 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/itycodes.org/nTaEjNsvKqoaBXoRXfjXLUne 05:56:43 When I say they don't do KYC, I'm referring to the fact that they don't verify that information 05:57:00 I have a VPS myself w/ them 05:57:06 So they don't even send an SMS to the phone number? 05:57:39 Correct, granted they do ask you to verify via email but as cockliuser would suggest just use cock.li 05:58:19 for the US location I believe the machines are hosted on crunchbits but I'm not sure 05:58:30 still works well as a no-KYC monero VPS 05:58:30 Is there any coin that combines privacy and practically limitless scalability? I'd like to see history pruning and high TPS capacity. 05:58:52 O, hmm 05:59:43 Is there any coin that combines privacy and practically limitless scalability? I'd like to see history pruning and high TPS capacity. It doesn't need to have the level of privacy possessed by monero. 05:59:59 I'm not the most familiar w/ crypto, only using monero to hold my assets as that was suggested to me. 06:00:00 How come monero doesn't fit your criteria? 06:00:15 My Monero VPS cost like $5 a month, still uncomfortable but seems like Monero ones don't go much lower. That said - I still used Njalla for domain. Thought of a "proper" registration, but registrars accepting XMR are rare and I have no desire to deal with BTC's fees. 06:00:28 kyun seems cool hmm 06:00:31 Monero is certainly an internet currency and digital gold, but its scalability is not practically limitless. 06:00:42 It is totally fine as digital gold. 06:01:13 Why isn't it considered scalable? I don't see any issue w/ transfer times/fees. 06:01:40 Whenever there are 10k transactions per day, monero people are talking about spam attacks... 06:02:09 10k transactions per day should be perfectly acceptable. Let alone 10k per second. 06:02:36 I'd like to see 10k TPS for digital cash. 06:03:47 VISA processes up to 20k TPS. 06:03:52 VISA credit card company processes up to 20k TPS. 06:03:55 I googled kyun.host and on a Reddit post it seems to have a traffic limit, but there's nothing mentioned on the site, is it still true? 06:04:14 10k TPS is impossible 06:04:24 without payment channels at least 06:04:27 with monero's current architecture, it's impossible. 06:04:38 > Njalla for domain 06:04:39 be warned that they're just a tucows reseller & if you're hosting anything remotely-sensitive they or tucows will take your domain. 06:04:45 > Njalla for domain 06:04:46 be warned that they're just a tucows reseller & if you're hosting anything remotely-sensitive they or tucows will take your domain. 06:04:47 it is impossible with BCH at a block size of 200MB 06:05:01 even that is only like 1400 tx/s 06:05:06 Without history pruning and a totally different architecture than blockchain, 10k TPS is impossible. 06:05:53 I'm talking about something entirely different than blockchain. 06:06:45 I have to make do with what I have, which is monero, but in the future, I'd like to see new innovations. 06:06:55 Yes, I am aware Njalla is not the best option but went with a quick one I knew. Thus - I want "proper" registration now. 06:07:20 Most domain registrars are pretty bad, but I've had a great experience w / namecheap. 06:07:21 They have a new subsidiary company called "spaceship" which offers domains w/ just a 19 cent surplus above the ICANN prices according to tld-list, granted I have no experience w/ the subsidiary. 06:07:30 perhaps it is possible with zk-rollups 06:07:33 idk 06:07:37 Looked at Porkbun, but they do not accept XMR, and I don't want to deal with BTC's fees for such a small transaction. 06:07:46 or DAGs 06:07:55 Does Namecheap take XMR? 06:08:03 They also don't take down content they disagree with unlike njalla, they've been holding kiwifarms.net for a while now. 06:08:14 Even DAG may not be enough.... 06:08:21 there's a fair usage policy iirc, not hardcoded 06:08:22 Even DAG may not be enough.... without history pruning... 06:08:33 What's meant by "fair use" 06:08:36 Ah cool. 06:08:47 I plan to run a web crawler, it'll be using a lot of traffic 06:08:49 https://kyun.host/docs/aup 06:09:08 No but their payment processor ( bitpay ) accepts LTC so I would suggest doing a swap. 06:09:11 If you are just going to run a tor node, don't worry too much about hiding.... 06:09:38 Also the onion domain for kyun seems down? 06:09:57 I know Namecheap takes Bitcoin, but wouldn't a small transaction cost a significant percentage of itself? 06:09:58 Just confirmed kyun is a crunchbits reseller, I'm not aware of crunchbits having unlimited traffic plans so be warned 06:10:11 O hm 06:10:26 Bitpay? Are there some caveats for using a processor instead of own server? 06:10:53 Censorship. 06:11:00 Yeah that's why I suggested litecoin instead, bitcoin transaction fees/times are outrageous now 06:12:00 > Because of this, running public proxies/VPNs is not allowed on Kyun, and because of the bandwidth fair use policy, it’s not a good idea either way. 06:12:01 Welp seems that they do have a pretty limited traffic. They looked cool :( 06:12:36 Not too many caveats except you're trusting your identity & wallet connection w/ a payment processor ( which shouldn't be an issue since you're swapping from xmr ) and the slight processing fee 06:13:50 nobfg9000 06:13:51 * history pruning for keeping storage requirement low 06:13:52 * DAG, Cerberus, etc, ... for higher TPS 06:13:53 * mimblewimble + Ethereum 9 3/4 + ... for privacy??? 06:14:07 A proxy is the biggest reason I have a vps at all. 06:14:47 user72340, your identity? Is there KYC or you mean info like a wallet address/IP/etc? 06:16:08 Would suggest frantech but they're all sold out currently. 06:20:51 Okay, there is no point in dwelling on the fact that there is no better alternative. Time to accept the limitations of the current generation of cryptocurrencies and focus on building up my life. 06:20:58 There is no upside in dwelling on the fact that there is no better alternative. Time to accept the limitations of the current generation of cryptocurrencies and focus on building up my life. 06:21:45 Have you considered running a tor node over VPN? 06:21:50 Have you considered running a tor node on your computer over VPN? 06:22:08 Namecheap does KYC, I suggested them because they don't take down content they disagree w/ as long as it's legal. 06:22:17 AirVPN allows you to forward ports to your computer. 06:22:30 I've had a good experience w/ AirVPN 06:23:17 If AirVPN is good enough to ignore bittorrent DMCA, it's good enough to protect you from the fact that you run a tor node. 06:23:42 AirVPN accepts monero. 06:24:17 Wdym by that 06:24:39 Welp nokyc.me's onion is bork 06:24:42 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/itycodes.org/iUIpjHtYipMTfKojsvNUrXza 06:24:44 You can forward ports on AirVPN's VPN servers to your computer. 06:25:02 I am mostly being double careful I suppose 06:25:08 AirVPN servers have public IPv4/IPv6 addresses. 06:25:20 AirVPN servers have public IPv4/IPv6 addresses. You can forward ports on those addresses to your computer. 06:25:38 Plus, running a tor node is not a crime by any stretch. 06:25:39 Welp nokyc me's onion is bork 06:25:54 Welp kycnot.me's onion is bork 06:26:06 I am not running a Tor node 06:26:12 Hey guys. Werent part of a convo in here for a while. 😅 06:26:15 As I said, it's a Tor crawler 06:26:23 As well as potentially a proxy 06:26:54 Hmm.... You can crawl the web via VPN, too... 06:27:47 Do you want to crawl onion domains? 06:28:16 Yes 06:28:29 You can do that on your computer or any VPS.... 06:28:41 I am aware 06:28:47 I am testing the crawler from my compute rrn 06:28:48 I am testing the crawler from my computer rn 06:28:57 I don't really wanna run it at full locally though 06:29:05 Always better safe than sorry 06:29:29 user72340, do they outright ask you for an ID? Then unacceptable. 06:29:38 I just use tor on my computer. 06:29:46 I just use tor and VPN on my computer. 06:30:10 No but they'll perform a background check in accordance to ICANN, it's a legal obligation for any domain registrar. 06:30:38 The precursor for internet license. 06:30:46 The precursor for internet license and censorship. 06:30:48 The precursor for internet license and domain censorship. 06:30:57 Btw I still don't understand: is there a visible downside to running Tor over VPN? You are not getting extra safety, but the question is whether you are losing any. I was referring to cases when, say, someone does that instead of a bridge because of reliability. 06:30:57 ICANN censor you. 06:31:12 Oh, they do actually do background checks? 06:31:42 I don't think there's any history of ICANN "censoring" people 06:31:59 ICANN may not directly. 06:32:13 I don't think I would be filling my true name and address just because I fear they might eventually refuse to serve me because of said address. That and fear of leaks. 06:32:23 But, the global digital ID is about tracking and stopping dissidents. 06:32:34 Indeed, every domain registrar is supposed to. 06:32:40 The solution isn't hiding, though. 06:32:51 What is? 06:32:58 The reason why njal.la doesn't ask for that information is because they're not a domain registrar just a reseller 06:33:02 Yes. 06:33:21 Global digital ID? 06:33:22 Went with that temporarily because it was a quick solution. 06:33:57 Yes, there is a scheme to create global digital ID for everyone on earth. James Corbett talked a lot about it on his website. 06:34:02 Completely understandable, leaks have happened before w/ domain registrars. 06:34:03 ex: epik 06:34:33 Centralized identity database is how central planners want to control the globe. 06:34:36 Now I wonder how thorough a background check is. What if, say, the person is not officially registered by that address, which most people who rent are? 06:34:40 Global socialism. 06:36:18 I wonder what happens if you use someone else's identity - some people are retarded enough to have all the necessary details posted online. Getting out of your way and looking for records for non-retards seems invasive though. 06:37:50 To a certain extent there already is, every internet service provider that I know of keeps logs of which IPs were assigned to you & at which times. 06:38:09 I know. 06:39:07 user72340, ISPs - yes, absolutely. 06:39:32 You can certainly avoid being reckless, but safety is an illusion. In attempts to be safe, you end up wasting time. By wasting time, you become financially insecure. 06:39:57 Are the registrars not available via tor? Or even without tor - would they ask an ISP for records each time, including if the ISP is in an unfriendly country? 06:40:11 This isn't all too uncommon, just open any database breach in the past few years and pick an identity. I wouldn't endorse doing such things for obvious reasons. 06:40:33 amano, maybe *absolute* safety is an illusion, but this is not an excuse to give up and just be reckless everywhere. 06:40:49 There are freedom fighters who reveal their real name on their website. 06:40:49 There are freedom fighters who reveal their real names on their websites. 06:41:07 They expose their faces and their real names on their videos. 06:41:15 Using a database breach feels scummy, idk if you can get in legal trouble for this. Are there free ones with such complete info? 06:41:21 At least, they are moving quickly. 06:41:45 > would they ask an ISP for records each time 06:41:46 For a background check over a domain? No. 06:42:04 Yea, but this is not an excuse to neglect the things you actually can't protect. Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good. 06:42:54 user72340, I thought so, especially in a non-friendly country. So while ISP is a hyper-hostile logging machine, it is not as relevant in a current scenario. 06:42:56 I would be highly surprised if any domain registrars don't keep logs for ips, just use any popular vpn service & you'll be fine 06:43:11 If you want to produce contents without revealing your identity, try that, but the best freedom fighters don't hide. Because they don't hide, they can move quickly.... If you want speed, hiding is not an option. 06:43:33 amano, these people end up in prison or dead very, very soon tho. 06:43:45 No... 06:43:55 They were put in prison because they were wreckless. 06:44:26 If you prepare good rhetoric in a structured manner and publish contents, the authorities usually just avoid you. 06:44:26 Yes, that is what I said. 06:45:09 amano, depends on location. Good rhetoric can get you to prison if it criticizes the govt. Or dead, if you're popular or unlucky. 06:45:27 Under acutal nazi regime, maybe... 06:45:35 We don't have psycho nazis in most places, yet. 06:47:53 Anyway, not everyone is actually doing this and an active target, and thus especially should not make perfect the enemy of the good. 06:49:13 Unless you are as popular as Alex Jones, don't worry about it. 06:50:12 Mostly just depends on which country you reside in, just don't publish things w/ an anti-government sentiment. 06:50:19 If you are just a one-man show, you will be ignored.. actually.... Youtube sometimes censors a video or two. 06:51:41 Even if you do publish content w/ anti-government sentiment I doubt you'll be killed if you live in a first world country. Most that will likely happen is getting debanked/deplatformed. 06:51:42 ex: Nick Fuentes 06:53:10 Mark Passio got his paypal account suspended for more than 10 years of anti-government contents.... And, he was arrested for less than an hour for distributing flyers about federal reserve. 06:53:37 amano, a one-man show that is only known in narrow groups - yea, they might be imprisoned or might not. But the big one-man shows are just as enormous of a risk. 06:53:57 Only one of his videos was deleted from youtube. 06:54:15 Only one of his videos was deleted from youtube for saying COVID pandemic was a psy-op. 06:54:53 Don't worry. Your show will not become as big as Alex Jones or even Mark Passio. 06:54:58 Don't worry. Your one-man show will not become as big as Alex Jones or even Mark Passio. 06:55:04 user72340, I am still very curious what scale the registrars do background checks on - didn't assume they did that in a non-automated way (for some reason). I now know that you should not invent an identity from scratch, yea. 06:55:34 amano, in some places things like Alex Jones might end up in prison fairly quickly tho. It is a gamble. 06:55:55 Mark Passio has been left alone apart from one public arrest which lasted for less than an hour. 06:56:08 I just avoid saying political things because no matter how unknown I am even among peers - that is still a gamble. 06:56:08 Mark Passio has been left alone apart from one public arrest which lasted for less than an hour. His paypal account suspended. Only one of his youtube videos deleted. 06:56:29 Not saying anything just makes sure that you will be eaten. 06:56:45 I believe it depends on the provider, I'm aware some people had issues providing fake details to porkbun. 06:56:45 Just because there might be LE seeking to fulfil their quotas on low-hanging fruit. 06:57:16 Actually, the ruling class doesn't want police officers to look into Mark Passio because his rhetoric is the correct one.... 06:57:19