02:06:47 <m-relay> <d​justice.kde:matrix.org> no, i usually would help anyone with any problem... but this channel's mod's are corrupt. as are other monero channel mods. this place isn't a safe place to ask for help. so please read the code for now.
02:23:48 <m-relay> <m​cneb10:envs.net> what non-kyc way do you guys recommend for buying xmr?
03:11:51 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> for fiat you have to look at , localmonero , bisq.
03:11:51 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> for crypto-crypto pairs (you may chose to buy usdt from somewhere esle first)  , non-kyc swaps like trocador.app
03:12:23 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> > <@mcneb10:envs.net> what non-kyc way do you guys recommend for buying xmr?
03:12:25 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> for fiat you have to look at , localmonero , bisq.
03:12:27 <m-relay> <k​arano:poddery.com> for crypto-crypto pairs (you may chose to buy usdt from somewhere esle first)  , non-kyc swaps like trocador.app or any other dex
08:11:49 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> sus
08:12:24 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> oh i see i guess that ain't bad
08:12:25 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> how is it sus
08:13:15 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> i didn't see the context above, looks ok then
08:13:28 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> kinda like the management.. money laundering probably hurts XMR's economy
08:13:58 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> yeah man allow anyone to use stolen cards with no identity checks to buy crypto
08:15:05 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> ikr
08:31:02 <m-relay> <l​a:tchncs.de> nigger
08:31:49 <m-relay> <l​a:tchncs.de> ngger
14:36:47 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/456
14:36:49 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> >hinto-janai full-time work on Cuprate (3 months)
17:22:34 <Maddie> How come the output of show_transfer's 7th collumn is either all 0s or "e8943e726a8ff331"??
17:23:58 <m-relay> <p​cre:monero.social> Sounds like a paymentid.
17:24:58 <Maddie> https://emailaffinity.top/~mk/files/k7.a
17:25:42 <Maddie> pcre: In al cases I have only _received_ on this wallet and all funds received where sent with sweap_account.
17:28:47 <m-relay> <p​cre:monero.social> What do you mean with sweap_account?
17:30:28 <Maddie> pcre: Like sweap_account 1 <my other wallet address>
17:32:48 <m-relay> <p​cre:monero.social> In any case, it looks like a randomly generated payment ID.
17:33:23 <m-relay> <p​cre:monero.social> Used in scenarios where matching orders to payments is essential.
17:33:28 <Maddie> pcre: But why are most of the transactions all 0 then? Only a few have a value and its always that value.
17:35:05 <m-relay> <p​cre:monero.social> Always the same Id? Ok!?
17:35:56 <Maddie> pcre: either all zero or that value pasted above, 0 excepts, I,ve checked.
17:36:06 <Maddie> exceptions*
17:36:51 <m-relay> <p​cre:monero.social> All 0 means no payment Id. You are identified by your subaddress.
17:37:22 <Maddie> I am so confused.  Does monero have a wiki?
17:38:46 <m-relay> <p​cre:monero.social> https://www.monero.how/
17:43:00 <m-relay> <p​cre:monero.social> https://www.monero.how/tutorial-how-to-send-and-receive-monero-command-line
17:56:22 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/vdDfVlFlsjcIzPabcpDuHcel
18:09:24 <Maddie> Thank you pcre :)
18:10:45 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://twitter.com/monerobull/status/1786373713241280914
18:10:47 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> >Hackers claim they got 2.5TB of Bitfinex KYC data 🙃
18:33:53 <Maddie> Why does 2.5TB KYC data exist in the first place? You just need names and ID and what not, delete them after 7 years and you're good...
18:35:14 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> maybe it include trade logs and all?
18:35:15 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> it's a lot of data
18:36:20 <BlueyHealer> probably they wanted the id in form of a video selfie lol, complete with anus demonstration
18:37:11 <m-relay> <p​cre:monero.social> that is bitter.
18:37:14 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> I did look at kyc for them long time ago (never did it)
18:37:15 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> It requested the usual shit plus bank statements and others extra
18:51:28 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> 2nd time bitfinex gets breached
18:51:50 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> mfw
18:51:52 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xmr.mx/ATqIAwmFgiRXxCAGvQJqjXSh
18:52:02 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Everything that ask for KYC should get breached at least 42 times a year
18:52:13 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> i mean
18:52:19 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> bitfinex got breached when btc was like 300ish
18:52:21 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> The more the better lol
18:52:27 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Yeah, I remember, people stole coins
18:52:45 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Bitfinex_hack
18:53:05 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> if u own a cryptocurrency (or anything thats related to money) company and u get breached 2 times, then thats a sign that ur company is going broke soon
18:53:43 <great_taste> inside job
18:53:50 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> 2.5TB, the questions what I am going to have to delete so it fit in my array lol
18:55:57 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> lot of search engine result suggest the leak is half fake or something..
18:55:59 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Like a mix of many crypto data breach, packages into one thing
18:56:21 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> even if it wsa, why target bitfinex?
18:57:32 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Finex been running without issue since a while, maybe they want to hurt it?
18:57:54 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> not worth it
18:58:11 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> it'd be more worth to target something big such as coinbase/binance/kraken
18:58:27 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> but whatever, i say it's real
18:58:47 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> considering bitfinex CTO (or past one if there is) lied about the breach in 2013
18:59:14 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> considering bitfinex CTO (or past one if there is) lied about the breach in 2014
19:06:43 <BlueyHealer> I just assume that whatever asks for my KYC is going to be breached tomorrow.
19:07:07 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> as it should be
19:07:10 <BlueyHealer> I wish I could get rid of my phone number because of this.
19:07:15 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> can happen
19:08:39 <BlueyHealer> I am half-sure I would at some point close any remaining bank account. Owning an apartment is trickier, but you can minimize the damage by renting your apartment out and renting somewhere else without registration)
19:08:45 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> pretty sure all exchages got hacked
19:08:57 <BlueyHealer> Either got or about to gey.
19:08:59 <BlueyHealer> get
19:09:07 <BlueyHealer> Amazing typo.
19:12:27 <plowsof> may i recommend rekt.com 
19:12:39 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/DGWTtLfQceIPLRJdTzCIjIHv
19:12:44 <plowsof> rekt.news* rather
19:12:50 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> wonder why Zcash doesn't get as much trouble as Monero gets from feds
19:13:18 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Because every service only accept transparent ztrash
19:13:22 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> does someone use zcash really
19:13:45 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/cGguLBmkTjhcIjFTMtibBgYn
19:13:47 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> lol
19:25:56 <BlueyHealer> I have never once seen it accepted by a business lol
20:14:36 <m-relay> <m​onazite:matrix.org> do you guys think bitcoin will fail if tail emissions arent added?
20:21:08 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> just give it time
20:21:09 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> it eater fine or going to only be used by the admins/elites/banks
20:21:28 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> just give it time
20:21:29 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> it eater will fail or going to only be used by the admins/elites/banks
20:23:54 <m-relay> <m​onazite:matrix.org> that seems like thats the way it will go anyway. If bitcoin becomes the global reserve currency transaction fees would have to like like $200 per a transaction to secure the network
20:24:33 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> I think it will be co-opt.
20:25:09 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Fixed supply. Companies own large chunks
20:25:31 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Sounds like shares to me
20:25:35 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> not only companies
20:26:07 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xmr.mx/pgAOuyFVaaTwFuXWqhliJYRy
20:27:09 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Us gov has a bit too
20:27:18 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> FBI?
20:27:19 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> or actual gov
20:27:41 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Same shit diff smell
20:27:51 <m-relay> <m​onazite:matrix.org> iran has been mining it to get past US sancations
20:27:58 <m-relay> <m​onazite:matrix.org> and i think russia is doing the same soon
20:28:20 <m-relay> <m​onazite:matrix.org> iran has been mining it to get past US sanctions
20:28:27 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> well yeah, but one isn't legit money
20:28:29 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> unlike el salvador
20:28:40 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> since it's technically stolen money from criminals
20:29:34 <m-relay> <i​gna:xmr.mx> https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/32ixEdVJWo3kmvJGMTZq5jAQVZZeuwnqzo
23:13:01 <m-relay> <n​igiri:cutefunny.art> how do I know if my computer's powerful enough to mine on the main chain?
23:27:15 <m-relay> <m​onazite:matrix.org> all computers should be able to mine on main chain just might not make much XMR