00:05:05 Hashrate is back up, miners coming back to xmr and no longer mining that shircoin 01:00:11 So now that LocalMonero's shutting down, what are some alternatives for buying XMR without KYC/BTC fees? So far I've only seen these: 01:00:13 https://serai.exchange/ 01:00:15 https://basicswapdex.com/ 01:00:17 https://haveno.exchange/ 01:00:19 But I don't know if haveno is even usable yet. I know that Cakewallet has support for Serai though 01:05:03 <5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Haveno 01:05:33 <5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Haveno, it has mainnet implementation released and there are already offers on it that people are doing 01:08:19 I haven't found a decent way to install that outside of just compiling it yourself (which is out of reach for most people, especially the ones I'd want to be buying Monero) 01:08:26 But maybe I'm missing something 01:12:09 Ideally there'd be a way to buy XMR without KYC/BTC swapping, that's also usable by someone who's only barely used bitcoin before (that way I can shill it to some certain people) 01:12:18 Ideally there'd be a way to buy XMR without KYC/BTC swapping, that's also usable by someone who've only barely used bitcoin before (that way I can shill it to some certain people) 01:16:53 ya theres plenty of other ways to buy xmr 01:18:08 There are some p2p trading groups on telegram. Obviously high risk but convenient 01:19:24 highly recommend wizardswap 01:22:13 i bought ome haveno 01:22:17 it was really easy 05:32:09 Telegram is the last place I would want to talk about crypto on. Idk if I cam even use it anonymously without a whole burner smartphone. Crypto has a shaky legal status, after all... 09:22:07 Can’t talk there without being bombarded with messages from scammers anyway. 🤷🏻‍♂️ They do have anonymous numbers though which is nice. They cost a small fortune now tho 09:40:10 Have not really seen it overwhelmed by scammers tbh, at least more so than other social media/messengers. 09:41:03 "Anonymous" numbers? Not only are they expensive, but the process is unnecessarily complex and probably even harder to do anonymously than registering with a burner number. 10:01:07 Here Telegram is the dominant messenger, along with Whatsapp. Whatsapp I did manage to avoid, but Telegram - not. 10:06:26 obviously I understand. I am just saying for some traders who are legal have msb licence. They might not need to worry about telegram as much as someone else. So its easy for them to connect with there old trading partners there 10:14:57 <321bob321:monero.social> Avoid telescam and join the matrix 10:21:37 321bob321, or Xmpp, or maybe Simplex, but Matrix could also suffice. 10:22:12 <321bob321:monero.social> The matrix has nioc tho 10:22:29 I just would not interact with crypto-related people on such a transparent platform as Telescam - mostly because crypto's legal status is questionable. 10:22:33 What is nioc? 10:25:00 <321bob321:monero.social> Who is nioc is the question 10:27:22 I would be cautious doing it with someone on matrix.org, but overall probably would treat messaging there equivalently to XMPP. 10:28:45 <321bob321:monero.social> Yeah verify 10:42:36 I mean key fingerprints better be verified regardless of protocol) 10:42:45 What is nioc then? 11:39:39 how do you become a moderator on matrix chat ? 11:40:00 currently getting some spam on the haveno chat, would like to clean up the shill / fud 11:40:11 currently getting some spam on the haveno chat, would like to clean up the shill / fud (or if any online mod could handle it plz) 11:40:26 how do you become a moderator on matrix chat for monerosocial ? 11:41:11 currently getting some spam on the haveno+community workgroup chats, would like to clean up the shill / fud (or if any online mod could handle it plz) 11:57:03 <321bob321:monero.social> Apply with resume 12:00:02 lol ok but where 12:51:45 Was that techleaks24 here as well omg 14:01:06 https://blog.nihilism.network/servers/haveno-client-f2f/index.html 17:04:34 What data goes out of my machine to be able to make transactions go through when running a local xmr node ? 17:20:16 Tradeogre.com, majesticbank.sc, more at kycnot.me 17:23:51 ooo, kycnot is good 17:24:01 hopefully they stick around for a while 17:31:15 snowden33: The transaction is sent from your node to other nodes, but other nodes don't know if the transaction originated from your node or if you are just relaying a transaction that your node received from another node, under usual circumstances. 18:14:28 47fxyCDao9BKxQuVZN16c41fE8B9JkmA3W24eC2A4UjHCeqC4KfAVWVUG22K3rzRDMYLTzn9bDG5J8jzmZjbJqEjNthRKd8 18:17:48 Cakwallet 18:52:28 Seen complaints about majestic, havent used myself thou 18:59:09 Is Capital Flight into Monero Inevitable? W/ Cryptocomicon (MT 311) 18:59:11 TODAY'S 🎙SHOW: Douglas Tuman catches up with Cryptocomicon, a software developer who first appeared on Monero Talk in 2022. 18:59:13 The conversation revolves around Bitcoin and its scaling challenges, the emergence of Monero, and the impacts of these developments on the existing financial system. 18:59:15 Hear about how Monero serves as a decentralized, private, and fungible alternative to traditional finance, facilitating peer-to-peer transactions without 18:59:17 intermediaries. 18:59:19 They also explore the idea of capital flight into Monero as a means of wealth preservation amidst coming financial turmoil and government crackdowns. 18:59:21 Watch Here (YouTube) ➡️ https://youtu.be/CCS5FRJCM94 18:59:23 Watch Here (Odysee) ➡️ https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8/is-capital-flight-into-monero-inevitable:d 18:59:25 Listen Here 🎧: https://www.monerotalk.live/capital-flight-into-monero-inevitable-cryptocomicon-311 18:59:27 Coffee & Monero, Go to Gratuitas.org today! 18:59:29 Monerotopia23 confer vids: monerotopia.com/videos 19:33:20 Do you need to run a node on seperate machine from your daily driver client machine would be better maybe? Does this apply to using haveno as well? 19:37:29 If majority of nodes you are connected to monitoring your traffic, there is a high probability it came from your node. 19:48:45 And running the node logs your ip ? 19:50:04 Just making sure whats the safest way of using monero nodes, i might just run my own through tor 19:56:35 Yes use tx-proxy 20:05:22 dave.jp: If you have Dandelion++ enabled, which it should be by default, then the adversary needs a very large number of sybil nodes. 20:05:38 Is there instructions on how to setup tx-proxy on node correctly? 20:23:06 holy hell has anyone used a coinbase commerce payment portal 20:23:14 it sucks donkey dick 20:23:34 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/docs/ANONYMITY_NETWORKS.md 20:23:35 just give me a normal BTC address 20:49:19 funny how the article assosciating Monero with terrorists is written by a FED 20:49:56 >This week, we are talking to Keven Hendricks, an expert and pioneer in Crypto and Drk Web investigations. Keven is the founder of Ubivis Project, a project dedicated to combatting the spread of illicit substances on the depths of the internet. He previously worked in the FBI and DEA, taking part in various task forces. 20:52:14 Do you think NGOs will write such articles ? 20:52:46 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/LbqZbYlqzVLIRMeTzejqDqiI 20:57:22 <321bob321:monero.social> Spectre 21:09:40 I can literally send a screenshot showing Zcash usage for the same thing, but I won't visit the site they linked. 21:11:17 I can literally send a screenshot showing Zcash usage for the same thing, but I won't visit the site they showcased. 21:17:47 has anyone heard of th dollar vigilante before 21:19:14 Sells membership to shill coins in private and then participates in pump n dump 21:20:15 Sounds like a fun guy 😆 21:21:08 Yah he has shilled wow to his followers 21:21:21 Fuck the feds. They're lazy and stupid. Very few of them I hold in high regard. Most are just over glorified cops lol 21:22:05 Does he operate on clearweb or mostly deepweb or some mix? Sounds like a mix between both for that type of operation I imagine, no? 21:22:36 Clearnet search on DuckDuckGo 21:23:44 Only 899/year 😂 21:26:28 yeah i bought his membership for a few months I didn't really like it, it was mainly just advertisements disguised as news and lots of spam emails 21:27:11 yeah i bought his membership for a few months I didn't really like it, it was mainly just advertisements disguised as news and there were lots of spam emails 21:28:47 Maybe in off topic you can disclose which shitcoins he is shilling now 21:34:23 That would be good 👍 21:36:24 he's shilling a coin called pirate chain and there's another one called dero 21:36:36 he's shilling a coin called pirate chain and there's another one called dero that hes shilling 21:37:02 Oh the left overs from last cycle 21:42:50 jeffro256, what sucks about the portal? Is it KYC? 21:43:33 (and yes both the VPS and registrar I used just gave me an address to send. Would now be aware of processors possibly used) 21:44:49 It doesn't provide any actual crypto addresses. You have to install from a small set of apps and use proprietary QR codes which don't work most of the time. the shitty ledger app cant even import a QR code from an image 21:45:57 and the feature requires the latest ledger firmware update which is the one which leaks your seed 21:46:32 and u get shunted to so many third party apps in between, your privacy be damned 21:47:21 Ledger? This can work without the hardware wallet? 21:47:48 Also just how bad it is in terms of privacy/anonymity? Are anynof the apps for desktop? 21:48:43 there are other exchanges 21:49:17 capt here :D 21:51:59 no ledger cannot work without the HW wallet 21:52:21 well ig now it can technically since your seed can be exported with latest firmware patch 21:52:28 but usually no 21:58:50 are there any legit xmr only hw wallets? 22:03:10 Nope 22:03:21 Not currently 22:29:25 is it me or are a lot of goverments cracking down on monero with KYC ? 22:31:36 I haven't heard any official govt regs about Monero 22:32:47 ARRRRR yea I seen that being promoted by someone on Diaspora* 22:32:49 Then again, they don't really need to mention Monero or any other crypto by name. KYC applies to all financial institutions already. so anyone who deals in both crypto and any regular currency is subject to it. 22:33:20 They need to offload their bags 22:33:31 Or maybe it was Mastodon... idk 22:33:35 Makes sense 23:58:56 Majestic disappeared for a week with user funds. No reason given. They did pay everyone back. But the way they handled situation was horrible. They switched domains and acted like nothing happened