00:00:24 <m-relay> <x​mrfamily:matrix.org> Also ideally xmpp is supposed to have otr plugin
00:57:10 <BlueyHealer> Isn't OTR outdated? OMEMO is the more modern one.
01:11:22 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/kHVmzGWKSPDPrmPyTKoQAKzm
01:11:23 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> cockliuser ^.
01:12:35 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> dsc_ too, even if he divorced lol.
01:19:35 <m-relay> <j​ohndoe427:matrix.org> Correct, yes.
01:20:49 <m-relay> <j​ohndoe427:matrix.org> Yes, the USA has their bill regarding mixers and then the EU Parliament just cracked down on anonymous cryptocurrency use falling just shy of banning monero lol
01:22:47 <m-relay> <x​mrfamily:matrix.org> I hope usa has harder time/cant make monero as hard to get as the EU did
01:23:33 <m-relay> <x​mrfamily:matrix.org> I hope usa has harder time/cant ban monero as hard to get as the EU did
01:24:09 <m-relay> <x​mrfamily:matrix.org> I hope usa has harder time/cant ban monero as hard to get as the EU did. Still feel like my sentence doesnt make sense
01:25:07 <m-relay> <j​ohndoe427:matrix.org> I feel like the fact that there is a significant number of far right/alt right politicians in the US government that support monero for their own agendas it probably will be more difficult. I have even seen a woman running for office in Senate specifically supporting Monero lol
01:26:48 <BlueyHealer> johndoe427, I think we have a similar situation with cash here - "they" need it to hide their money from each other too)
01:27:27 <BlueyHealer> Also given what is going on in the US, I am probably refraining from buying Monero here too.
01:27:53 <m-relay> <x​mrfamily:matrix.org> people who believe taxation is illegal like to hoard gold etc probably like monero but not sure if they trust cryptocurrency . I have also been surprised by the people ive met during trades. That senate example had me cracking uplol
01:30:24 <m-relay> <j​ohndoe427:matrix.org> Many do not trust cryptocurrency and believe conspiracies about it being a part of a scheme to lead society into cashlessness and then crash the whole system to force people to lose all of their money, but there are all types of course and not all of them believe the conspiracies about it. Rare to find people who actually fully understand it, but they do exist thus why one of the <clipped message>
01:30:25 <m-relay> <j​ohndoe427:matrix.org> first users of Haveno seems to have been in Texas :)
01:35:25 <BlueyHealer> I have never seen the "lead society into cashlessness" with crypto, only the association with scams and ecological impact.
01:38:34 <BlueyHealer> Association with scams is so sad, I guess they only chose crypto because of irreverseability. Ugh.
12:41:38 <jqq_> What is money?
13:27:07 <m-relay> <j​ohndoe427:matrix.org> Irreversibility and the fact that it makes laundering the funds much easier plus if you are clever it is very difficult to trace back to the person commiting the crime
13:28:50 <m-relay> <j​ohndoe427:matrix.org> Yes, look up CBDCs and you will see where the conspiracy theory comes from. Many people pushing a false narrative that government invented bitcoin and yada yada. Lots of crazy folks will believe it too because of what happened in USA in recent years where conspiracy theories helped get people positions in the government (Trump being a HUGE example with QAnon helping him keep suppo<clipped message>
13:28:51 <m-relay> <j​ohndoe427:matrix.org> rt while simultaneously destroying USA)
13:30:07 <m-relay> <j​ohndoe427:matrix.org> It has become more difficult to use cash to hide transactions in recent years. Even countries like Switzerland have had their banking privacy laws compromised by the US pushing them to become less secretive due to terrorist financing and money laundering from my understanding.
13:30:33 <m-relay> <j​ohndoe427:matrix.org> Sorry for delay in response, but the IRC relay did not show your messages until now to me.
13:34:10 <BlueyHealer> Ah, the CBDCs are mashed together with BTC and XMR? Never saw that, understand now.
14:47:44 <hyc> I suspect govts can´t actually outright ban Monero. writing the legislation would be too difficult to do without also banning cash at the same time
16:01:01 <m-relay> <p​epe86frog:matrix.org> Wasn't that like years ago?
16:01:52 <m-relay> <p​epe86frog:matrix.org> yep I agree, bad pr, yet there they are, we need every damn exchange we can get right now.
18:40:53 <BlueyHealer> hyc, just like they cannot ban e2e lol
18:50:41 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/keltMFlzQjVVfOAOjlbYFeaF
18:50:52 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> kayaba's profile picture is terrifying
18:51:37 <m-relay> <j​in-out:matrix.extsys.net> nice tray, love it
18:51:51 <m-relay> <j​in-out:matrix.extsys.net> the legendary chicktopus
18:54:37 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> clipboard.png
18:55:01 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> monero dev profile pic top trumps
18:57:43 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> wtf just realized this is a chicken
18:57:53 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> AI generated?
18:57:56 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> someone call PETA
18:58:16 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nah, its real
18:58:39 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> nah its real
18:58:54 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> 😋
19:41:41 <m-relay> <x​mrfamily:matrix.org> yes I still dont like them because of their response but Ive used them since just because its easy