00:15:06 <m-relay> <g​ee:matrix.start9labs.com> Hey kayabanerve, wrt full chain memberships, could something like this apply / help?
00:15:07 <m-relay> <g​ee:matrix.start9labs.com> https://nitter.poast.org/n1ckler/status/1790758313992327258
00:42:12 <m-relay> <k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> They're also using Curve Trees. They have much worse performance so I'm unsure help is possible in this direction. I should stop by and let them know though.
01:17:59 <m-relay> <h​anshan:monero.social> whats wrong with OTR?
01:18:01 <m-relay> <h​anshan:monero.social> except that you cant get messages offline etc...
05:29:50 <BlueyHealer> hanshan, "needing both participants online" is a pretty significant downside. Also it means only 1-to-1, so no using several devices.
10:03:40 <pixificial> Hello!
11:19:59 <pixificial> I had the Monero blockchain downloaded on my laptop ~3 years ago. It took a few days as I did & do not have an SSD. But since then I did not run the daemon and now I want to get the rest of the blockchain, but it says that the rest will take much longer:
11:20:03 <pixificial> > Synced 2422043/3154526 (76%, 732483 left, 0% of total synced, estimated 2.2 months left)
11:21:15 <pixificial> The first 75% which I downloaded 3 years ago took only a couple of days whereas the remaining 25% is said to take >2 months. Any ideas on how to improve the situation?
11:24:45 <nioCat> will take a long time but 2 months seems like not an accurate estimate 
11:25:06 <nioCat> make sure that you are running the latest version 
11:25:25 <nioCat> it will have the most updated checkpoints
11:29:02 <nioCat> it is normal for the beginning of the chain syncs fast and then get slower as the number of txs per block gets larger
13:39:59 <pixificial> > make sure that you are running the latest version
13:41:32 <pixificial> Actually downloaded it 3 days ago since it didn't look so good, but it didn't change anything, surprisingly.
13:42:40 <pixificial> I might try to do it nonetheless. More specifically, you are suggesting me to run monerod binary of v0.18.3.3, right?
13:42:56 <pixificial> ...try to do it again* nonetheless...
13:43:46 <pixificial> No need, running version gave me the following:
13:43:48 <pixificial> > 0.18.3.3-release
13:45:19 <nioCat> yes 0.18.3.3 is the latest 
13:46:55 <nioCat> I synced from the beginning a month ago using an SSD and it took ~24 hrs
13:47:22 <pixificial> I'd be happy with a week :').
13:47:34 <nioCat> the last few months of the chain will be the slowest as there were many txs
13:47:56 <nioCat> a week would be best case, probably a bit more
13:48:14 <nioCat> no idea about HDDs nowadays 
14:03:59 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:m.datura.network> If you want to run a monero node on a HDD I recommend first synchronizing it on a SSD, then copying it on a HDD
14:04:15 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Then running the monerod there
14:10:06 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Then running the monerod there, you won't have to wait 1 week for the sync
14:12:05 <m-relay> <j​ohndoe427:matrix.org> It would probably be insane on an HDD these days. It was for me back when it was only 50gigs, so I can only imagine now. I refused to use SSDs back then, but I think maybe Nihilist [blog.nihilism.network]:  is on to something with his idea of switching it from SSD to HDD to speed things up if one prefers HDDs.
14:13:52 <BlueyHealer> I did not expect the switch from HDD to SSD to be this breathtaking.
17:39:07 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> ./monerod, I am trying to setup the CLI node but I cannot install it with an RPi. Why am I being told "Permission denied"
17:39:21 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/WYtTiFrLpHQxpZbwbbKFrXrP
17:39:59 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> I am following a guide from Mental Outlaw where he is able to run ..monerod with no problems.
17:40:01 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/rkEbqHrHpKsaSeoXRXBCXwSz
18:04:23 <m-relay> <s​needlewoods:monero.social> With `ls -l` you should be able to see who owns `monerod` and with `chown PiXMR monerod` you can change the owner (have to prefix `sudo ` if owned by root)
18:04:36 <Mochi101> looks like it's a permission problem
19:14:26 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> You should be able to fix the permission. Have you tried?
19:17:21 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> Can you run ls -l
19:36:37 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> 256013 monerod
19:37:32 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> ls -i 256013 monerod
19:37:58 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> ls-I just listed the folder contents minus monerod
19:38:59 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> Take a screenshot, don't be lazy. It lists files, users and groups
19:40:35 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/dtbbFaYeRDoGiXLPWseEKCWd
19:41:33 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> ls -l
19:41:46 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> L lowercase not i
19:44:34 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> -rwxr-xr-x 1 PiXMR PiXMR 24548392 Mar 12 16:46 monerod
19:44:35 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> -rwxr-xr-x 1 PiXMR PiXMR 24548392 Mar 12 21:46 monerod
19:50:48 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> It has execution permission for your user. Looking at your screenshot it looks like you have given it and tried to execute but it's complaining about the binary.
19:50:49 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> Have you downloaded the monero version that fits the RPI architecture, aka Arm?
19:53:19 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/rsJqzmLSiixgdNbNJMWhDnLE
19:58:40 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> If you have rpi3+ probably you want arm v8 version
20:51:02 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> I will try that. Thanks for your help.
21:01:59 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> Same error even with ARMv8.
21:03:00 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> Hell yea, chmod +x worked, installing now.
21:12:56 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> Hell yea, chmod +x worked, <del>installing now.</del> Must setup to install on my SSD attached to my RPi, at least a way forward.
21:20:22 <pixificial> Has anyone tried running Monero binaries on OpenBSD (Specifically FreeBSD)? I don't think it will work but there is a glimpse of hope :).
21:27:28 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> I have my SSD attached to my RPi, how I get it to show on terminal so I get the node installed on it?
21:30:54 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> serial console? SSH?
21:31:07 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> SSH
21:35:29 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> sudo parted -l only shows my 128GB mSD card, not the 1TB SSD.
21:35:29 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org> Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags
21:35:31 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org>  1      4194kB  541MB  537MB  primary  fat32        lba
21:35:33 <m-relay> <c​hiefprivacy:matrix.org>  2      541MB   128GB  127GB  primary  ext4
21:38:54 <selsta> pixificial: it should work, yes
21:54:07 <pixificial> selsta: Cool, thanks :).
21:56:54 <m-relay> <p​reland:matrix.org> Completely unrelated; this reminded me that when I upgraded from 8GB to 32GB of RAM that I forgor that 4GB of RAM magically vanished
21:56:55 <m-relay> <p​reland:matrix.org> Should probably check on that, I can’t let the feds keep running their shadow VM on my system forever
23:00:57 <m-relay> <c​haser:monero.social> what are all the required config entries for running a node that makes connections exclusively through Tor, but is not a public node?
23:16:17 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> If I understood correctly. https://github.com/monero-project/monero#using-tor Should answer your question
23:22:39 <selsta> ugh
23:22:45 <selsta> just noticed that the using-tor part is outdated
23:23:26 <selsta> using --proxy is preferred over torsocks
23:50:44 <m-relay> <c​haser:monero.social> SyntheticBird this^ is why I'm asking for an explicit entry set. I found a dozen or so guides, some obviously wrong, some ambiguous. monerod usage on Tor seems to be very underdocumented.
23:52:33 <selsta> if you want all traffic over Tor, use `--proxy 127.0.0.1:9050` (or whatever port you use), if you want transactions over Tor and blocks over clearnet use `--tx-proxy`, see https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/docs/ANONYMITY_NETWORKS.md for more info