00:29:52 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> XMREUR @ 140 00:32:17 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de/Pq5kW154ZETDQZKc45hMwTojOw286awy 00:32:26 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> +20% growth in the last month to date 02:40:37 <3​21bob321:monero.social> moon? 03:32:14 It will moon when all cex delist it 03:32:36 Would be interesting to see price discovery in dex then 03:33:38 BlueyHealer: "I hate how Matrix has this one central homeserver that has its tentacles in pretty much every major chat." Because the mainstream tends to go to whichever instance they heard about in the media. Mastodon and Misskey suffer from the exact same problem. However, things like Pleroma and Mitra don't, not only because the sheep won't go there, but these 2 don't have a "flagship" instance 03:33:40 too. 03:34:05 mooning after getting delisted everywhere would be pretty funny 03:34:34 Thats why i am holding up my monero till every cex delist it 03:34:45 Email is the other big one. Everyone is either GayMail, or HateMail/Outlook/Live.com, or Yahoo, or ProtonMail. 03:35:18 I strongly believe price would jump over $200 in a week or so 03:36:40 Only a few do selfhosted email, and we are the ones who have to deal with Google and Microsoft's rather hostile anti-selfhosting bullshit. 03:37:00 Its ok , as far as we are not wholly dependent on matrix for hosting our rooms. 03:37:11 It's also a matter of convenience 03:37:25 Most people are going to use what is in front of them, the defaults, as long as it 'just works' 03:37:32 Privacy isn't a primary consideration 03:37:56 Like if matrix were ever to go , monero community should survive here. 03:37:57 Only the folks on matrix server would have to find new home 03:38:51 Like if matrix server were ever to go , monero community should survive here. 03:38:53 Only the folks on matrix server would have to find new home 03:39:58 decentralized chat pools matter 03:40:06 xmpp is far better decentralised,but as said its also a matter of convenience where max people can agree to to use 03:40:36 xmpp is far better decentralised,but as said its also a matter of convenience what max people can agree to to use and we have to find a middle ground 03:41:26 xmpp is much better decentralised, but as said earlier its also a matter of convenience for most people and so we have to find a middle ground 03:42:23 i've heard that you can have some degree of decentralization of IRC servers 03:43:05 but this is mostly for the purposes of performance in the old days and not "political" decentralization/redundancy as we might think of it now 03:43:39 that is to say, a single IRC server failing or being hijacked would cause the entire IRC network to fail or be hijacked 03:43:58 "its also a matter of convenience where max people can agree to to use" Even though this literally doesn't matter. 03:45:57 "a single IRC server failing or being hijacked would cause the entire IRC network to fail or be hijacked" This already happened before. See Freenode for example, and how the the Korean crownprince prompted everyone to leave Freenode and move to Libera.Chat instead. Which by itself is stupid, because self hosting your own IRC server is really the easiest thing in the world to do. 03:45:59 I haven't been in the Monero Matrix chat yet. Are people pretty active in there? 03:46:59 And before the whole Freenode situation, I didn't even know that South Korea had a crownprince (let alone a royal family). 03:49:39 Correction: self hosting an IRC server is the 2nd easiest thing. Self hosting static HTML + CSS webpages are the very easiest. 03:49:43 remiliascarlet: I was unware of that until just now lol 08:19:22 tradeogre USDT withdrawal is so high. 10 dollars. WTF 08:20:08 is it tradeogre causing that or the etheiscam network? 08:20:27 whenever I have to use usdt i do so over tron 08:22:56 Only withdraw monero 08:23:30 The entire purpose of me going there was to put monero and get usdt out 08:24:19 Why usdt? 08:24:27 Getting a centralised shitcoin is never a good idea, anyways ETH tokens are expensive to transfer 08:24:44 what about Tron tokens 08:25:01 tron is cheap to transfer over 08:25:07 assuming you already have trx in your wallet 08:25:09 Never seen Tron accepted anywhere tbh... How are the fees? 08:25:19 ah nevermind you answered lol 08:25:26 Tron fees are weird sometimes you pay zero sometimes you pay a lot 08:25:41 i've never paid "a lot" 08:25:55 especially when compared to some of the btc fees i've paid over the years 08:25:55 What is Tron even used for? The only cryptos I have seen accepted in places are BTC, LTC, XMR and sometimes ETH. 08:26:22 it was one of a number of eth killers that came on the market and was still born 08:26:42 but it's good for usdt, for those who insist on it 08:28:17 I needed USDT to pay for something (that does not accept monero). just got them elsewhere 08:30:32 How are the fees on USDT? 08:31:07 BTW my domain is soon to be renewed, and I thought of a "proper" registration instead of Njalla. Really wish registrars accepted Monero more. 08:31:16 depend son the network BlueyHealer - you can send usdt over tron, eth or some others that are all cheaper than eth 08:32:02 i'll make it worse, i sent them to a custodial wallet 08:33:37 I don't even have a custodial wallet lol 09:43:51 the "custodial wallet" in question is actually Telegram 09:47:26 What did you need a wallet in Telegram of all things? I wouldn't trust Telegram with my lunch money! 11:31:04 Monero breached $158 overnight 11:31:13 My fellow Monero enthusiasts, 11:31:15 In the pursuit of our cause, let us be unequivocal: we will not support any reduction in privacy or anonymity. These are the pillars upon which Monero stands, the very essence of our mission. The moment we allow these principles to falter, we risk losing the sanctuary we have built. It is then that we must seek refuge elsewhere. 11:31:17 The likes of Russell Brand and Glenn Beck may not grasp the profound necessity of the privacy and anonymity that Monero offers, but we do. We understand that our goal is not to appease the existing system, but to transcend it. We have borne witness to enough theft, war, and hegemony to last a hundred lifetimes. The time has come to cast aside any semblance of compromise in our mes 11:31:19 saging. Privacy and anonymity are non-negotiable. 11:31:21 Are we not the central bank killers that Satoshi envisioned? Are we not the vanguard of a new era, where financial sovereignty is reclaimed by the individual? Now is not the time to waver. We must weather every storm that comes our way, for there will be many. But united in our unwavering commitment to privacy and anonymity, we shall prevail. 11:31:23 Let us march forward, resolute and unyielding, in our shared mission. Together, we will ensure that Monero remains a beacon of freedom in an increasingly surveilled world. 11:31:25 Privacy and anonymity, now and forever! 11:52:11 is this another AI blog post? 11:57:00 Yeah from matrix dot org too 12:04:36 haha 12:51:44 russell brand? 13:00:59 Random thought : a YouTube clone with the same business model but with monero funding ads and popular content creators getting rewarded in monero 13:01:15 But probably not realistically feasible 13:33:55 But probably not realistically feasible (requires an astronomical amount of storage) 13:45:36 Financially I don't think this plan would work 14:14:46 BlueyHealer: there's a bot/service on telegram that accepts payments via the telegram crypto wallet. it among other things tops up Steam account balance 14:15:52 ah 14:16:17 telegram of all things 14:16:40 I thought of finding something on plati.ru, but then filled it via a classmate's app. 14:27:16 Was thinking something similar but ran into the same issue 14:27:50 Maybe if you have a lot of compute (from retired XMR miners maybe?) you can use handbrake to ultra-compress the videos lol 14:27:53 I would be scared using a custodial wallet at all. 14:28:18 You can even get videos to be streamable via I2P using Handbrake, which is…..insane😂 14:29:02 lol yea 14:29:41 why scared? 14:31:13 Kind of afraid of them banning me for some reason and taking my money 14:32:00 IDK if this by itself increases the chance of banning, but I have known people who were banned, appealing it is pretty much impossible. 15:03:09 Custodial wallets are not different from a PayPal account 15:03:28 exactly 15:03:31 They can arbitrarily block you from access to your funds or run away with them entirely 15:07:27 And I feel like Telegram is a bit more ban-happy than Paypal 15:15:50 oh, you mean third party wallets 15:15:52 ok, well yes, those are stupid 16:14:14 looks like it lol, who's doing this 16:15:59 Tradeogre set that withdrawal fee. 16:20:38 what's your favorite wallet that allows you to connect to your own node? 16:23:15 CLI 16:24:09 or did you mean mobile wallet? 16:27:23 AFAIK Feather allows that. 16:28:04 nioCat: mobile and/or desktop wallets 16:28:21 i've only really messed around with cake wallet a bit 16:29:29 I don't use my own node because the amounts I have are very low. But searching it now and Feather Wallet's website says it allows any node. 16:31:11 you should be able to use any node with any wallet 16:32:03 there are some that don't let you set a custom node 16:33:32 that sucks lol 16:33:36 Well, some don't work with regular Monero nodes, but only with MyMonero servers and derivatives. You don't happen to run of those yourself just like that :) 16:33:45 What wallets don't allow this?? 16:34:17 Just claim those are not "true Monero wallets" and you have kicked them already out of the way 16:34:28 :) 16:35:14 By the way, TIL that Cake has a Linux beta 16:35:25 yeah, the wallets that are not tru monero wallets don't always let you connect to your own node 16:39:04 Looking into Cake's features now and it's kind of sad that they prioritize mobile. 16:39:24 average user doesn't run own node anyway 16:40:07 you can also spin node for mymonero if you give it a try 16:40:08 ah, I am an above average user then :) 16:40:54 it doesn't scale well as I understand but it sync fast 16:41:02 great for new users 16:41:07 What is different about MyMonero even? 16:41:41 marsupialSoup, I would have run my node if I had any significant amounts of crypto - with just $5 spent a month, it's not worth it for me. 16:42:24 a lot people just want to use monero and use it fast 16:42:37 wallets like mymonero are important 16:46:09 mymonero has your view keys 16:46:21 oh wow 16:47:00 tor guard nodes have your ip also 16:47:03 that's how you don't need to wait for the wallet to sync 16:47:09 it doesn't mean anything 16:47:19 run your own monero-lws 16:47:38 just run your own node :) 16:48:47 MajesticBank> a lot people just want to use monero and use it fast <<>> and then >>> run your own monero-lws 16:48:51 hmmmm 16:49:01 the node setup is pretty easy if you have hardware that isn't being used 16:50:02 BTW is it safe if a node gets set up on a VPS instead of a box at home? 16:50:08 nioCat: if worried then run your own node else mymonero fine 16:50:44 be happy 16:50:48 BlueyHealer: many people do that 17:26:26 /dns4/atomicswaps.majesticbank.at/tcp/8888/p2p/12D3KooWKJUwP45K7fLbwGY1VM5V3U7LseU8EwJiAozUFrq5ihoF 17:26:52 Atomic swaps rendezvous point, our offers on the way 17:26:52 You can use this rendezvous point to register your asb using [network] directive in config file 17:26:52 Tutorial soon 19:12:48 Is trocador down? 19:15:13 looks like it, morpheus 20:47:11 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Yeep for a while 20:48:08 Yeah, we are suffering DDoS 20:48:19 Should be back soon 20:50:51 Is it possible to buy crypto using credit card in trocador? 21:15:03 We should be back online. Some VPN connections are still being blocked due to a very strict policy to contain the DDoS. 21:53:56 <1​23bob123:matrix.org> uptimekuma says down 23:40:50 If a currency is private then the state or any other gang can't get its share. How about that?