00:00:57 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> for me it's not about the texture but rather about the terrible taste and health side effects 00:01:00 Meat , freshly slaughtered, when raw or cooked lightly and not minced or processed or aged, is healthy and dense in all the nutrients you need and contains relatively less toxins than plants unless the animals were contaminated or raised unhygienically 00:02:16 If you over cook meat you’ll get heart disease 00:02:24 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> like it's a source of vitamin B6, B12 and D but other than that it's terrible for nutrients and digestion 00:03:12 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> if you eat meat you will statistically get that too it will just take longer 00:03:27 Same could be said about heart disease though if you eat tons of plant oils especially when heated 00:04:00 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> and you will basically load up on carbs from that diet and have a high risk of obesity 00:04:17 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> vegan's balanced and it lets you to actually enjoy the food without overloading you on carbs 00:04:33 I mean if you eat only meat there’s no carbs in your diet 00:05:07 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> yea, but like vegan diet is not common to be cooked on plant oils 00:05:14 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> bcs like it makes the food often taste worse 00:05:52 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> i meant carnivore diet in general that usually has a huge amount of carbs 00:06:14 Carnivore diet inherently has no carbs 00:07:09 If you eat carbs on a carnivore diet you’re not on a carnivore diet 00:09:11 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> like you usually have to season the meat in something to make it bearable, then in combination with other animal products such as milk, eggs, etc.. 00:10:45 Well if you have milk then you’ll have carbs. But then that’s not a carnivore diet anymore. 00:11:13 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> and like i am talking about the common carnivore diet not about KETO-oriented which excludes carbs entirely as most people don't do keto 00:12:52 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> e.g. lot of people eat bread, pasta and other high-carbon options with meat 00:12:59 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> but on vegan diet you are not really constantly pushed into combining that with carbs to make it taste good 00:13:01 I thought people considered a carnivore diet to be only eating meat and nothing else at all even seasoning with exception to salt 00:13:51 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> .. and not make you feel sick unless you are willing to suffer for ~2 months to get your body into the state of ketogenesis and that is still medically questionable if it's even healthy with some sources saying that it's restricting micronutrients such as magnesium that have a higher risk for brain damage 00:14:40 Anyway I only eat meat and thought that’s what a carnivore diet was considered to be 00:14:52 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> at least in my area people call only meat diet with no carbs a keto and diet with meat in it as carnivore 00:16:12 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> pasta, rice and bread e.g. in a form of pizza is very common here where their vegan alternatives are significantly more healthy and doesn't overload you on carbs 00:16:43 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> e.g. i am buying this pizza from lidl 00:16:53 file image.png too big to download (6169015 > allowed size: 1000000) 00:16:55 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> image.png 00:16:57 I haven’t eaten anything but meat in many years. I only eat raw meat and raise my own animals . 00:16:59 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> it legit tastes significantly better than the one hand made by a chef with meat 00:17:16 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> and has significantly better nutrients 00:17:23 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> as vegan food also makes it much more economical and energy efficient to storage 00:18:08 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> maybe consider adding more veggies.. though if you are used to meat then if you suddenly just shift on vegan you will feel like shit.. The change has to be gradual for your body to adapt 00:19:01 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> e.g. i was eating meat for most of my life and i am vegan basically only thanks to all the vegan restaurants and places in my area that make that food just taste so much better to eventually just switch on it naturally 00:19:09 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> but when trying to just day to day change it felt miserable 00:20:02 Personally I think if you’re going to eat plants you shouldn’t eat processed plant based food from the store. You’re more likely to consume toxins formed in the processing of the food 00:20:43 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> true though i am not aware of this being a risk with BIO labeling in the EU 00:21:03 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> as the EU is super strict on what can be considered BIO 00:23:44 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de/sI3KR5tfqtEcgN6zF8f4oUBSMo9mJRiA 00:23:56 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> e.g. 00:24:15 I made this decision purely on the basis of scientific research I’ve personally done. Haven’t had any health problems since I’ve started my diet years many ago and don’t plan to change it unless I have strong evidence to change it for my health 00:24:34 I made this decision purely on the basis of scientific research I’ve personally done. Haven’t had any health problems since I’ve started my diet many years ago and don’t plan to change it unless I have strong evidence to change it for my health 00:25:45 Anyway I think we let this off topic convo carry on too long hahah 00:26:07 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Like if you want evidence then review your diet for nutritional value and see how much of vitamin A, E, K, Magnesium, Zinc, etc.. you actually have in that and then review the side effects of not having enough of them in the body 00:28:04 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> e.g. vitamin K defficiency will lead to reduced blood clotting which might end up chronic 00:28:08 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> and increased risk of liver damage 00:29:23 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> lack of magnesium directly corelates to the high risk of brain disease 00:29:37 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> etc.. 00:30:08 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> fair i should go to sleep too :D 00:31:20 <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> also like increased risk of digestive complications and increased cholesterol to have a real risk of heart disease is probably the major one 00:54:31 is there a monero xmpp room? 00:54:43 There's one but it's mostly dead. 00:59:21 hey 00:59:26 is anyone ere egyptian? 01:00:24 Where? 01:01:05 monero⊙cyi 03:21:31 There is one his name is conk not sure his handle on matrix 03:40:01 Hi 03:49:58 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/gxIjsIiTyjHUlQWubLEhmUcN 03:50:05 Enjoy Monero visualisation at 03:50:07 https://txcity.io/v/xmr 03:50:09 monero.garden 03:51:18 Like to propose a feature: 03:51:19 - dynamic blocksize algorithm 03:51:21 - correct fee representation 03:51:23 - Monero wallet tranx tracking on txcity 03:51:25 - Custom characters 03:51:27 - House on Txcity for any interactive feature/dApp on Monero 03:51:29 If you have any more features to propose let me know 04:02:30 Can we add 26th word to the mnemonic to keep track of the rough wallet creation height? Next word every 10k blocks. 04:09:51 Would not have enough words 06:56:56 monero at 170 now 06:57:00 this is unprecedented 06:57:11 any idea why? 06:59:51 Unprecendented? It was USD 500 once ... at the all-time high 07:07:40 ^ 07:11:46 I remember two pumps to 500, and 250 being a norm for quite a while... "Unprecedented" 07:12:29 let me not start about XMR/BTC ratio :D 07:16:35 6 years and some months ago... 07:16:45 Imagine owning any XMR. Lol. 07:51:24 The highest price paid for Monero (XMR) is $542.33, which was recorded on Jan 09, 2018 (over 6 years). Comparatively, the current price is 69.81% lower than the all-time high price. 08:05:05 Live stream: https://youtube.com/live/oPOECPKAqSE 08:58:29 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/csdVMHJlXWpWQkJWISTScPER 10:09:18 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- 10:09:19 Hash: SHA512 10:09:21 URGENT: I will be quitting KFHS very soon and I will not be returning. If you need to contact me r then dm me and I will give you my new contact details. 10:09:23 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- 10:09:25 iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEULhN/9HoNUEXnggcjYw7PillauIFAmZi3BIACgkQjYw7Pill 10:09:27 auITLw/7BaQdj6HE6IiGwJQXS0mQnKOJGaxh+RjfowNGEjlLkzpxwZJbt9ZlCTRl 10:09:29 AwXOF0DKWlQeOHE/zQ8uA7m9rbQHHMv3FAbyQeSlX65mI8L1VIsKUhMB89dSSpLu 10:09:31 nSWMeyqSbm3UHUJOW1SmUOAH+Nq4URER0TOxl+FBj4+dBBXOWBV/6owGN/qxibip 10:09:33 29ZBcmCAoGFg/piKbPFD+o8FqAPxCFBCZ6KQyi/9zq8Sy+Wy61FsKku0dl7xmHT5 10:09:35 CWmzUTzxD+ykdU3QWWAb05nSNdVFk8SOscNyDK+XHAaW59q76+GjKVJhZAAEuSDF 10:09:37 X5dhI96g7/qVLzYGsD74n4S63H8C78hVseM15dHvXD0smQHU9Dpa+RSExza/z8my 10:10:18 What is kfhs 10:45:50 Bought some XMR last night. As seen on the charts. 10:46:44 kidding 11:04:50 Are there any smartphone applications that provide valuations of Monero from actual online use rather than something like one remaining exchange that has suspended trading it? 11:05:11 or something to that effect 11:10:12 https://youtu.be/YjH7ztw7CNM?si=BxsnWuyQDYBrPMnf 11:11:59 https://youtu.be/YjH7ztw7CNM?si=m5_uYhz_pgR_En_k 11:19:04 https://youtu.be/YjH7ztw7CNM?si=r5-_GLCFCRrd-f4p 11:36:46 1626 * 10000 = 16260000 height till we run out of words, we're at blockheight 3165953, at 2 minute per block we would run out of words in about 50 years. 11:39:01 "We establish a correlation between the onion address and IP address of a Monero Tor hidden service node." (https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3589335.3651487) 11:39:46 6 dudes just to say 'eh if you relay from tor to clearnet we know your IP' 11:40:09 no shit sherlock lmao 11:41:26 With --anonymous-inbound & --tx-proxy + --proxy the monero node isnt using clearnet at all 13:23:40 hello does anyone know if changenow is legit place to buy monero? a lot of people say its a scam 13:25:28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VKdUCx6oLc 13:30:52 seems pretty legit to me i bought like $30 monero off of them in the past but I am going to make a big deposit now so i dont want to lose my money 13:31:03 seems pretty legit to me i bought like $30 monero off of them in the past but I am going to make a big deposit now so i dont want to lose my money if it is a scam 13:31:14 it's a centralised exchange, you'll be forced to do KYC, so don't go there 13:31:23 I've used it. 13:31:25 Someone used it to buy me monero with ltc 13:31:27 i used it to buy ltc with monero . 13:31:29 I've used it to buy monero with fiat (no id verification, but a form to give my contact info and my fiat credit card has my name anyway, so not anonymous) 13:31:31 Never had any issue 13:32:21 check this page to know your options https://kycnot.me/ tamlotamlugufum i recommend to just go on haveno DEX instead, no kyc at all and P2P for direct fiat -> xmr trades 13:32:23 Crypto-only swaps do not require ids, but can be refused if "suspicious" (according to them) 13:32:25 Buying xmr was not suspicious enough it seems 13:32:37 i bought like $30 off of them before and they didn't ask me to do kyc 13:32:45 ok thank you 13:33:22 I bought 300€ of xmr at once with fiat, but without privacy 13:33:39 https://blog.nihilism.network/servers/haveno-client-f2f/index.html heres my tutorial on how to setup haveno dex if ur curious 13:33:45 > <@tamlotamlugufum:matrix.org> i bought like $30 off of them before and they didn't ask me to do kyc 13:33:47 I bought 300€ of xmr at once with fiat, but without privacy (no id check, just a form) 13:34:04 what about bisq 13:34:56 haveno was forked from bisq, because it was not focused on monero. on bisq you're forced to do fiat -> btc -> xmr, which is a major loss in value 13:35:11 on haveno it's centered around monero, so direct fiat-> xmr trades are possible 13:35:17 on haveno it's centered around monero instead, so direct fiat-> xmr trades are possible 13:36:14 oh ok thgank you 15:01:09 Changenow isnt a scan but it is hell restricted due to regulations 15:01:20 Changenow isnt a scam but it is hell restricted due to regulations 15:01:58 If youre from a country not supported you simply loose your money 15:35:32 as will all centralised exchanges become 16:18:03 Who pinged meh 16:19:07 What's that? 16:19:09 Das ist ich 16:19:27 Egyptians on irc? That's interesting... 17:07:21 I know of a couple of CEXs that are not and will not be restricted. 17:07:30 which ones? 17:07:47 the ones that are anonymous i bet 17:07:58 Yes sir. 17:08:06 yea thats the exception, ur right 17:08:56 Few and far apart. XCHG is regulated though? I honestly don't know. 17:09:37 majestic bank, wizard swaps, trade ogre, and co. 17:10:32 I mean I'm all for p2p, haveno, serai, etc. but cexs, anons, are still very important 17:10:55 little critique on tradeogre: 17:10:56 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/m.datura.network/zSSdEFlbjjtJLxibGBiQPaJl 17:11:56 fuck! I also saw a post at monero town complaining about T.O today. I have my doubts, maybe someone had a bad experience, I've used it a lot, but I'm not liking what I see :( 17:17:01 in any case, if you still want to use CEXs, get them from kycnot.me https://kycnot.me/ 17:17:09 in any case, if you still want to use CEXs, find them from kycnot.me 17:56:11 Theres only one exchange not using ddos protection 17:57:08 Phishing is common just go on whatever forum right now theres a spammer who made fake xchange pages 17:57:42 The best to avoid phishing is simply search the domain name it will appear nowhere 18:08:52 Can’t we just create a captcha form that will allow for proxied connections (like more than it does currently) and then propose it to CloudFlare? 18:10:46 the critique is with using cloudflare https://decloudflare.crimeflare.eu.org/#deCloudflare=readme/en.md 18:34:36 do u have to login? 18:34:38 in tradeorge? 18:42:08 I can't connect, is it my Free and Democratic country censoring my internet access again ? 18:56:12 Monero went above 170$, it’s being attacked for being right 18:57:02 You can’t even make this up, it’s so obvious that it genuinely teeters on becoming a legitimate side-channel attack Pentagon Pizza style 18:59:15 I know of a couple of CEXs that are not and will not be restricted. <- well if a random guy sells his monero unregistered he might count 18:59:43 Meant to be no price tal- matrix dot org nvm 19:01:11 idk, never used it 19:01:49 make a decentralized protocol, crowd on a single server 19:35:27 has anyone heard of dero before is it good 19:35:49 has anyone heard of dero before, is it private and good? 19:35:51 has anyone heard of dero before, is it better than monero 19:35:57 has anyone heard of dero before, is it better than monero? 19:36:44 oh boy 19:37:18 Its rubbish 19:37:22 watch this https://iv.datura.network/watch?v=FKlnwwOgInc, you're going to love it 19:37:51 Some call it a scam but it pure rubbish 19:38:38 ok i'll watch it later 19:39:02 i remember that was right after i had presented haveno on monerotalk, that was one wild ride 19:39:48 but TLDR, a monero dev disclosed a deanonymization exploit on dero, and the dero devs refused to pay him 19:40:15 not dero devs 19:40:17 but TLDR, a monero dev disclosed a deanonymization exploit on dero, and the dero devs refused to pay him for the bug bounty 19:40:42 this was a random dero fanatic on X 19:40:56 ah, yea my bad 19:41:41 but in any case, i think luke didnt get anything from the dero community for disclosing the vulnerability 19:41:48 just hate lol 19:41:55 he just recieved hate lol 20:05:31 that clowshow was entertaining to watch happen in real time. 20:50:26 What is a good place to set a vps that accepts XMR? 20:51:33 Kyun.host are affordable and private VPS that you can pay in XMR. Gorgeous interface, easy installation and management. 20:51:46 Check the cloud providers listed on kycnot.me 20:51:52 Tho I advice on taking a VPS on the USA side not romanian 20:52:14 I use servers.guru currently for my dedicated server 20:54:07 someoneelse495495, what is with the Romainan side? 20:58:01 kyun.host offer VPS in romania and USA 20:58:12 VPS located in romania and USA* 21:02:28 Yea, what is wrong on the romanian side? 21:16:58 network speed. I had to migrate Librejo on the USA in order to reliably clone git repository