00:38:07 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> trying..
00:44:33 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> yep that seems to work, thanks!
00:44:52 <m-relay> <5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> is it sane to sync that file across all my systems? So that it's immediately available to use the wallet?
06:52:00 <geonic> what’s monero’s uptime? any known instances of the network being down that I’m forgetting?
07:59:40 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> the network never sleeps
09:25:51 <plowsof> would i be correct in saying as long as the network has measurable hash rate then its "online" as blocks will eventually be mined 
09:28:01 <sech1> Network is online as long as there are at least 2 nodes online and connectable on ports 18080/18081
09:28:10 <sech1> So far it's 100% uptime
14:22:56 <m-relay> <k​orgprivacy:matrix.org> 📰Missed Monerotopia Episode (#170)? Check out the Price, NEWS, GUEST Segment. 
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16:42:32 <m-relay> <d​faisdjfuasdf:nope.chat> if you're "anti-theft" and "anti-criminal" then why are you in a monero community?
16:45:39 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> what a ridiculous question
16:45:57 <BlueyHealer> Was that sarcasm?
16:46:40 <rbrunner> Do we have a daily price for the most weird question?
16:48:10 <m-relay> <d​faisdjfuasdf:nope.chat> how is it a "ridiculous question"?
16:48:30 <m-relay> <d​faisdjfuasdf:nope.chat> you say you're anti-criminal and anti-theft yet you're supporting criminals by using monero
16:48:50 <m-relay> <h​ardhatter:monero.social> Brother there’s plenty of libertarian in the monero community. And theft violates the non-aggression principle .
16:48:52 <m-relay> <h​ardhatter:monero.social> That being said the anarchists among us also believe in the self-responsibility to defend yourself. If a seagull steals my food I’m not gonna hate it. It’s an animal/force of nature. But I’m gonna not gonna let it happen again.
16:48:54 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> how am I supporting criminals just by using monero?
16:49:13 <m-relay> <d​faisdjfuasdf:nope.chat> if you're anti criminal then just leave because this group chat isn;t for you
16:49:16 <BlueyHealer> Ah. Troll.
16:49:41 <m-relay> <d​faisdjfuasdf:nope.chat> because you're using a cryptocurrency designed for criminals
16:50:16 <m-relay> <h​ardhatter:monero.social> It’s designed for privacy
16:50:28 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> nonsense, who told you it was designed for criminals?
16:51:12 <m-relay> <d​faisdjfuasdf:nope.chat> it's designed as a cryptocurrency for criminals, thieves and drug dealers and it's designed to be private so that they don't get caught
16:51:27 <BlueyHealer> Guys, it is obvious bait, we should not feed the troll.
16:52:00 <m-relay> <h​ardhatter:monero.social> I mean either that or he’s an npc
16:54:33 <m-relay> <d​faisdjfuasdf:nope.chat> you're using a criminal currency and you should withdraw your money immediately because this is a cryptocurrency designed for criminals
16:54:40 <m-relay> <d​faisdjfuasdf:nope.chat> if you're anti-criminal then don't use monero
16:55:12 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> he's another random letter name from nope.chat, same as the spammers from before
16:55:20 <m-relay> <h​ardhatter:monero.social> Where do these people spawn from lmfao
16:55:46 <m-relay> <h​ardhatter:monero.social> Is this some dead internet theory crap
16:55:46 <BlueyHealer> from a spawner in a basement
20:06:48 <onlytaamid> hi all
20:07:44 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> hi onlytaamid
21:15:11 <m-relay> <r​ikapilled:eientei.org> Bluey, would you recommend using proton vpn?
21:15:38 <BlueyHealer> depending on for what
21:15:40 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> please dont
21:15:42 <BlueyHealer> they got blocked so no idea
21:16:17 <BlueyHealer> I hve issues with proton in general
21:16:23 <m-relay> <r​ikapilled:eientei.org> Oh I wanted to use it for using public wifi
21:16:26 <BlueyHealer> Why ask me specifically?
21:16:29 <m-relay> <r​ikapilled:eientei.org> Why is it bad to use it?
21:16:42 <m-relay> <r​ikapilled:eientei.org> Well I've only really spoken to you and you seem smart :)
21:16:59 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> some people think proton is sus for several cases where proton gave data to courts
21:17:06 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Proton have documented it
21:17:08 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> proton all around can't be trusted
21:17:11 <BlueyHealer> Because the servers got fucking blocked, I used to go to Instagram and Twitter through it (back when I still had accounts), but it got worthless pretty quickly.
21:17:16 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> too much false advertising
21:17:18 <m-relay> <r​ikapilled:eientei.org> I see
21:17:39 <BlueyHealer> syntheticbird, I have no issue with them giving data - I'd expect that from every company.
21:17:39 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but you have people like strawberry that act shocked when Proton, a swiss company, have to obey swiss law...
21:17:41 <m-relay> <r​ikapilled:eientei.org> So I would have to create my own vpn server essentially?
21:17:44 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> I've had a terrible experience with their email service
21:17:51 <BlueyHealer> I have issues with their marketing and reputation.
21:18:04 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> That is better indeed
21:18:09 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> when did I claim otherwise?
21:18:14 <m-relay> <r​ikapilled:eientei.org> Heh alright then
21:18:24 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ^ here
21:18:28 <m-relay> <r​ikapilled:eientei.org> I think I'll just have to avoid public wifi until I move out then
21:18:35 <BlueyHealer> strawberry, tried email too, abandoned after realizing I could not use it with a normal client.
21:18:57 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> you can comply with swiss law without being a dick about it and deleting my email I'd been using for years without any notice or warning
21:19:01 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> thanks proton
21:19:19 <BlueyHealer> Thankfully no such experience, but not allowing normal clients is a dick move.
21:19:25 <m-relay> <r​ikapilled:eientei.org> Thats fucked
21:19:27 <m-relay> <r​ikapilled:eientei.org> Did you do something to annoy them?
21:19:49 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> he probably had free-tier account
21:19:53 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> they thought I was using it to generate bot accounts or something
21:19:59 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Proton is pretty agressive on free-tier account
21:20:04 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> in other words, they read your emails to determine that
21:20:08 <m-relay> <r​ikapilled:eientei.org> Oof I see
21:20:14 <BlueyHealer> If you rely on a company not to give your data - then why do you let them have your data in the first place?
21:21:03 <BlueyHealer> Also I'd say their marketing is misleading for people who don't know better, but this didn't really affect me. Unlike the unusable email!
21:21:23 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> what exactly is misleading in their marketing?
21:21:44 <BlueyHealer> I'd say overall vibe, would need to look closer for examples.
21:23:26 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> okay they've changed their marketing since I last checked
21:24:06 <BlueyHealer> Wht did they change?
21:36:32 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> "since I last checked" was several years ago, looking through archive.org they seem to shuffle the buzzwords each year
21:38:53 <BlueyHealer> For censorship circumvention - I am glad to be renting a VPS, much less likely to be blocked thn a public VPN server)
21:39:51 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> and the "strict no logs policy" is unverifiable and unfalsifiable, but as SyntheticBird has pointed out, proton don't have a good track record here, albeit that may be down to swiss law
21:40:12 <BlueyHealer> I just don't consider "no logs" at all.
21:40:21 <BlueyHealer> Just assume everything accessible is logged.
22:28:51 <m-relay> <n​ym0h:matrix.org> Then, can you reccomend any trustful e-mail service? Maybe Tuta?
22:30:03 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> it's like asking me to recommend a monero remote node
22:30:08 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> ideally, none of them
22:30:16 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> buy your own domain and do it that way
22:35:28 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> (but if there's nothing seriously important on your email, cock.li has been run by one guy for years on crypto donations and he sells VPS for monero)
22:41:36 <BlueyHealer> strawberry, I wish the domains weren't so edgily retarded.
22:42:05 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> yeah, but it works
22:42:26 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> rikapilled: Are you doing things that require you to hide from nation-states? If so, don't use Proton VPN
22:42:46 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> But if you aren't, and you're just trying to protect yourself from some guy snooping on the public wifi, there is no issue at all with using it
22:42:49 <BlueyHealer> And if you do - then it doesn't give you protection either.
22:43:02 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Agreed BlueyHealer
22:43:07 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> I think that goes for really any VPN company
22:43:53 <BlueyHealer> BTW as for public wi-fi - wht even are the risks? You're trusting your CAs to verify that the sites served are correct, and the wi-fi owner cannot see inside of HTTPS. Is them seeing where you connect such a big deal? Compared to home ISP.
22:44:29 <BlueyHealer> Also recently learned there is a provider called autistici, how tf do you name yourself after a developmental disorder
22:44:32 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Only thing I see is DNS and HTTP sites
22:44:46 <BlueyHealer> HTTP sites are rare now though
22:44:52 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> another example of questionable marketing from VPNs
22:44:56 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Yep
22:45:34 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Only things I see are DNS and HTTP sites
22:46:38 <BlueyHealer> I don't mind people who have it, they often make more sense than normal people. I just don't see why you'd want a service named after that.
23:04:20 <m-relay> <p​reland:monero.social> I2P uses http*
23:04:22 <m-relay> <p​reland:monero.social> * they use it because it’s a completely closed network and there rly isn’t any use for the “S”
23:05:48 <BlueyHealer> same for tor, why is encryption is built-in
23:07:07 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> https on an onion service is like putting a stop sign behind a brick wall
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