00:38:57 Anybody know vps hosting that accepts monero? Currently I use 1984.hosting but they raised prices. 00:40:08 Privex.io 01:05:18 Just chiming it to give a shout-out to bitcart.ai as you guys are talking about accepting xmr. 01:05:18 Self hosted open source solution, that accept monero and a solid project to support. 01:05:20 Just chiming it to give a shout-out to bitcart.ai as you guys are talking about accepting xmr. 01:05:22 Self hosted open source solution, that accept monero and a solid project to support. 01:05:24 I'm not working for them, just using them and being a happy user :) 01:05:28 We do :) servers.guru 01:23:47 Did you ever use BTCPayServer? So you'd have something to compare bitcart with, I mean. 02:19:26 No I didn't. It's probably great as well. The reason I went with bitcart was due to the amount of crypto supported. 02:36:03 1984.hosting has always been good, servers in iceland and accept Monero. 05:10:50 https://kycnot.me/?t=service&q=vps 05:14:59 <3​21bob321:monero.social> There is monero directory 07:08:21 https://www.monerica.com/ 07:13:56 <3​21bob321:monero.social> was talking about this one 07:13:58 <3​21bob321:monero.social> https://www.monerodirectory.com/ 08:31:46 MONERICAAA FUCK YEAH 08:31:54 Sorry I let the intrusive thought win 18:33:21 Lol wtf proton made a bitcoin wallet 18:33:25 https://x.com/ProtonWallet/status/1816090220359475651 18:33:35 https://proton.me/wallet 18:43:39 bitcoin via email? what is this sorcery? 18:54:20 I'm interested 18:54:46 I wonder what the end-to-end encryption here is actually accomplishing since BTC is transparent.... 18:55:28 Latest gimmick from the grifters behind protonmail 18:57:26 Please monero friends, stop falling for these "end-to-end encrypted email" scams, it's literally impossible without some new email standard 18:58:08 It is, just use GnuPG 18:58:54 Indeed, but you both need to use it 18:59:36 i just got a dm from "nvmitsmatrixdotorg" complaining about my use of matrix.org 18:59:56 is this from this room 19:00:37 mentions monerologs something so i suppose its related 19:02:22 that seems kinda obvious lol 19:02:23 you can't do e2ee if one of you neither decrypts nor encrypts 19:04:08 strawberry, if you depend on a provider for your e2e, you're doing e2e wrong! 19:04:45 Seems obvious enough to you, but people who don't know any better will take the proton marketing at face value 19:12:29 GPG FTW 19:30:14 it's not btc via email, it's a wallet 19:30:39 you can also buy btc with CC or bank transfer 19:30:49 when protonero 19:32:33 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Well proton uses coinbase for sub payments, so probably swapping through them too 19:32:51 I guess the feature is syncing the wallet's data between several devices, although I personally never understood the syncing obsession. 19:33:15 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Sync via smtp 19:33:26 CC or bank transfer? How would they do that commercially without requiring an ID as well? 19:33:30 My point is that they shouldn't be trusted with your bitcoins. Protonero never, they just tweeted "We're not interested in shitcoins." 19:33:54 321bob321, recently installed Localsend and enjoy it. 19:34:53 Wait, they count Monero as a shitcoin? 19:34:58 <3​21bob321:monero.social> I use ffsend 19:35:08 is it btc? :D 19:35:44 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Well with simplelogin the offical way to pay with monero is to use proxystore..lol 19:36:21 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/xIvTphPkgvnbOpjMnegFcbTk 19:36:38 BTW Cake Wallet offers prepaid cards, including Mastercard/Visa - how is that service? 19:37:07 Can IRC people see that pic? Safe to say they definitely aren't adding Monero 19:37:30 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Read last sentence lol 19:37:41 <3​21bob321:monero.social> “Dominant way” 19:37:41 strawberry, ye, we can follow the link 19:38:23 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Its in 8bit tho 19:44:14 Wait, you guys pay for simplelogin? 19:44:49 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Yeah premium 19:47:03 Register your own domain, get infinite aliases for like $5, 19:47:21 or does simplelogin do something else? 19:51:18 It is easy to guess that your domain is just you though. I do just that for my needs tho. 19:51:39 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Has 9 different domains 19:52:29 <3​21bob321:monero.social> And like getmonero on cloudflare we blend in 19:53:18 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Also you can selfhost simplelogin if someone wanted too 20:31:47 use default domains for larger anonymity set, using personal domain removes basically all the anonymity from the service 21:18:17 Selling all my monero, just found out coinjoin is considered the best solution 21:18:40 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/yWsAcHAMRHHIVVOAYrNcvsGz 21:19:14 we were a shitcoin all along 21:19:33 Maybe you need a coinjoin 21:20:11 Jokes aside - BTC privacy tools and XMR are in the same boat essentially, despite one being not as effective as the other. I don't think we should antagonize each other. 21:22:56 Yeah of course, I wish them best of luck with coinjoins, lightning, silent payments and such. Coinjoin ban sets a bad precedent for XMR 21:25:28 exactly 21:28:29 What's funny is that bitcoin could probably add all the privacy features they want and not get delisted due to their big network effects 21:28:51 If LTC can add MWEB and not get shunned like monero, so can BTC 21:30:52 <3​21bob321:monero.social> They are jail?