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09:28:04 <badnax219> nigger
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09:28:15 <sech1> plowsof ^
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09:28:39 <badnax219> nigga nigga nigga nigga
09:28:41 <badnax219> lol
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09:29:42 <badnax219> black live matter nigger
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09:32:47 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> [@Banhammer](https://matrix.to/#/@banhammer:matrix.org)
09:32:57 <badnax219> LOL
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09:33:34 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lol /ban mrelay (jk
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09:40:19 <badnax219> .blacknigga (test)
09:40:27 <badnax219> blcaknigga
09:40:30 <badnax219> blacknigga
09:42:01 <badnax219> test
09:42:04 <m-relay_> <n​yx:nyxmr.top> oh this guy's back
09:42:04 <badnax219> blacknigga
09:42:33 <badnax219> why did you enable invite only mode?
09:43:11 <badnax219> on monero.social
09:47:02 <m-relay_> <n​yx:nyxmr.top> soy
10:03:21 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> trace https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/4014#issuecomment-1224339036
10:03:32 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/monerosupport/comments/zqs0b7/monero_gui_wont_launch_in_new_tails_58_update/j11am12
10:11:36 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Ask in gui
10:42:00 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> not on the website sir?
10:42:06 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> room link
11:24:58 <plowsof> now then
12:13:50 <m-relay_> <n​yx:nyxmr.top> y'all fw my dashboard?
12:13:51 <m-relay_> <n​yx:nyxmr.top> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/nyxmr.top/OzWkZmzTCncnjCDjePLiLtus
12:28:39 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> Why can't I trust Centralised Exchanges, and random Monero nodes ?
12:28:40 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://blog.nowhere.moe/opsec/chainalysisattempts/index.html
12:31:06 <m-relay_> <n​yx:nyxmr.top> chainalysis uses node IPs as a part of their strategy to correlate transaction data
13:03:23 <m-relay_> <n​yx:nyxmr.top> update
13:03:25 <m-relay_> <n​yx:nyxmr.top> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/nyxmr.top/MxzPiOXcplNARxORZCIpbDHJ
13:05:41 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> kayabanerve https://twitter.com/kayabaNerve/status/1831135604622422401 just so you know, gag orders can prevent you from updating canaries that might deem it suspicious or anything like that..
13:06:25 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> surprised no one mentioned it tho, looks like EFF and other orgs marketed this snake oil very well
15:02:34 <m-relay_> <k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> That's the point of a canary. It stops being updated upon incident.
15:22:47 <remiliascarlet> Seems like somebody didn't listen to me, and blocked nope.chat on Matrix, so the spammer moved to IRC to spam from here. Genius...
15:42:08 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> what happens afterwards? people will speculate a lot of thing.
15:45:16 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Thats monero media department issue
15:46:32 <m-relay_> <k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> If someone has a canary, and it stops being updated, the point is for people to speculate that the canary's statement is no longer true.
15:47:14 <m-relay_> <k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I didn't make a canary. I made a tweet I should have one and a comment on my past thus far.
15:47:32 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> You can bs
15:47:54 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> No requests made here is todays newspaper
16:14:23 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Thats why ivpn do third party no log audits and infrastructure audits
16:14:34 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Proof
16:24:30 <m-relay_> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i like ivpn
16:25:56 <m-relay_> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but mullvad and proton are technologically superior (Wireguard over X, shadowsocks)
16:26:13 <m-relay_> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> well not shadowsocks because ivpn have it too
17:10:46 <m-relay_> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> proton is infected with CBDC and bitcoin maxis + someone or a group from WEF?
17:11:22 <m-relay_> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i like both ivpn and Mullvad but dont know if mullvad is as trustworthy as ivpn
17:11:32 <m-relay_> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i like both ivpn and mullvad but dont know if mullvad is as trustworthy as ivpn
17:21:22 <m-relay_> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i think most agrees on the fact that mullvad is more trustworthy than ivpn
18:14:00 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> Interesting, a set of fed run nodes are deployed on quadranet.com and have matching open ports. Another possibility is that this hosting provider MITMs nodes and provides data to feds. https://libreddit.privacydev.net/r/Monero/comments/1f9h7rw/xmrnodecom_is_very_sus
18:21:53 <JoBbZ> is it possible to access my v1 wallet via monero gui?
18:31:28 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> These are not even nodes. They are just reverse proxies that MiTM traffic. Its cheaper to run
18:31:28 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> ```
18:31:30 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> 9000/tcp open   ssl/cslistener?
18:31:32 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> | ssl-cert: Subject: commonName=node2.monerodevs.org
18:31:34 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> | Subject Alternative Name: DNS:node2.monerodevs.org
18:31:36 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> | Not valid before: 2024-07-02T12:22:44
18:31:38 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> |_Not valid after:  2024-09-30T12:22:43
18:31:40 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> ```
18:31:42 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> node.moneroworld.com for example proxies to node2.monerodevs.org
18:31:44 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> Which is plowsof
18:33:12 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> Imo we should create a reverse proxy that detects unusually high amount of incoming txs per ip and ban them.
18:33:19 <m-relay_> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I think there was an XMR load balancer project, you can fork off of that code
18:33:22 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> Imo we should create a reverse proxy that detects unusually high amount of incoming txs per ip and ban them or spit them out for further analysis.
18:33:25 <m-relay_> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I think there was an XMR load balancer project in Go, you can fork off of that code
18:33:40 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> I can just have chatgpt write this in 10 seconds
18:33:43 <m-relay_> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Very interesting
18:33:50 <m-relay_> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Oh, ok
18:34:02 <m-relay_> <t​race:4d2.org> Kek
18:34:18 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> we need to count IPs per POST /sendrawtransaction
18:34:22 <plowsof> https://github.com/unyieldinggrace/monerod-proxy 
18:35:36 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> If anyone is running high traffic nodes. I would be interested in working with them to count these reverse proxy leeches
18:35:37 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> and report them to monero.fail
18:39:02 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> Interesting, a set of fed/chainanalysis run node proxies* are deployed on quadranet.com and have matching open ports. https://libreddit.privacydev.net/r/Monero/comments/1f9h7rw/xmrnodecom\_is\_very\_sus
18:41:04 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> timestamp in video where this screenshot is from 28:46
19:41:35 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> https://github.com/digilolnet/monero-sendrawtransaction-counter
19:42:32 <m-relay_> <r​ucknium:monero.social> Is having reverse proxy leeches a problem? Isn't that the point of a public RPC node?
19:43:30 <m-relay_> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> why is that? i though ivpn is a big fan of monero?
19:43:32 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> What Chainanalysis does is get the cheapest VPS in OVH and setup a reverse proxy to some real nodes. Then they advertise it on monero.fail etc. And use to trace TXs
19:43:45 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> What Chainanalysis does is get the cheapest VPS in OVH and setup a reverse proxy to some real nodes. Then they advertise it on monero.fail etc. And use it to trace TXs
19:43:52 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> What Chainanalysis does is get the cheapest VPS in OVH and setup a reverse proxy to some real nodes. Then they advertise it on monero.fail etc. And use it to trace TXs to IPs
19:44:32 <m-relay_> <r​ucknium:monero.social> I see. So they see the tx. It looks to the wallet like it's a real node, but they are just relaying traffic
19:44:49 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> Yep
19:45:32 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> And if their fake node proxies end up on majority of peoples devices and they don
19:45:40 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> And if their fake node proxies end up on majority of peoples devices and they dont use Tor well bad things happen
19:46:42 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> My idea is to deploy this https://github.com/digilolnet/monero-sendrawtransaction-counter and then let node operators analyze the abusers. Check if they have node ports open etc.
19:51:07 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> ™️digilol grants?
19:52:11 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> I was going to run a node and only allow selsta’s ban list
19:52:30 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> 60% of the tool was written by DuckDuckGo free AI
19:53:42 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> If anyone is interested in running it on their node contact me privately and we will figure it out.
19:54:59 <selsta> my ban list likely does not contain any Chainalysis fake nodes
19:55:41 <selsta> mine contains nodes from fireice and a second entity
19:57:26 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> in the video they are shown logging this endpoint https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/daemon-rpc.html#send_raw_transaction
19:57:58 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/LqYLPCtWTHzazAAoMpovPxlG
19:59:20 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> better question gingeropolous how do they have access to your logs?
20:03:44 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/ZFsbpYxNyhcYqQracxZKXbrD
20:04:23 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> I believe he is a malicious party. Why would he not use CNAMEs otherwise.
20:04:24 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> ```
20:04:26 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> node.moneroworld.com.	60	IN	A	100.14.73.50
20:04:28 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> node.moneroworld.com.	60	IN	A	37.187.74.171
20:04:30 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> node.moneroworld.com.	60	IN	A	192.99.8.110
20:04:32 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> ```
20:04:34 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> it was pointing to a chainanalysis node, and the victim accessed it by node.moneroworld.com hence the Host header
20:04:36 <m-relay_> <p​reland:monero.social> “Oops”
20:04:50 <plowsof> Are they not grepping their own MITM logfiles? After sneaking their way onto the "list"?
20:05:00 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> Highly recommend to not use node.moneroworld.com
20:06:25 <selsta> yes I also think these are their own logs and not gingers
20:06:32 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> We need to do what happened in the movie “the departed” insert someone in the irs
20:06:54 <m-relay_> <p​reland:monero.social> There’s probably a way to mess up their rpc tracing stuff if you can figure out a node is compromised
20:07:40 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> If I was a doing chainanalysis I would not run my own node but reverse proxy to well known ones. This way I dont need to manage the mess monero node is also dont need to worry about upgrades.
20:07:43 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Is that node http?
20:08:22 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> It could be that he didn't know better but I find his attitude a bit concerning here https://matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:matrix.org/$XIDCP1Qa7axvWMUuIi9LFDMa1XEVjawJ1LjGn43oXtI?via=matrix.org&via=monero.social&via=libera.chat
20:09:10 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> actually nah you can't load balance CNAMEs like that
20:09:33 <nioCat> all that link does is invite me to join matrix  :)
20:09:53 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Yeah its a link to previous convo
20:10:22 <nioCat> that much I figured, meow
20:11:57 <selsta> maybe I'm missing something but /sendrawtransaction kinda shows that they do this reverse proxy thing and not have access to ginger's logs directly
20:12:12 <selsta> because this RPC endpoint isn't used in normal wallet usage
20:14:56 <selsta> so they chose moneroworld as en endpoint because it's the most well known node, not because it's compromised
20:15:14 <plowsof> I use that endpoint to ask nodes "did you update lol?" So pls forgive me for high requests per ip 
20:16:03 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> >because this RPC endpoint isn't used in normal wallet usage
20:16:04 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> Weird. They only show two transactions in the video which have RPC info and for both it's that endpoint
20:16:50 <plowsof> tobtoht i think its unrelated to feather specifically but multi broadcast uses thensendrawtx endpoint?
20:16:59 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> which endpoint is used by wallets?
20:17:11 <selsta> ugh
20:17:18 <selsta> maybe I'm wrong and it's used
20:17:55 <selsta> I usually remember this endpoint from exporting the tx as hex and manually submitting it
20:17:59 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> selsta: most likely moneroworld pointed at a chainanalysis node at some point, honest mistake and the logging was done in their end
20:18:34 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> Also I just got IP banned from all of the nodes behind node.moneroworld.com 😆
20:19:14 <plowsof> --disable-rpc-bans and free stnby 
20:20:29 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Naughty corner
20:21:25 <m-relay_> <r​ucknium:monero.social> According to the video, Chainalysis deploys at least some nodes (or something that participates in the P2P network) since they collect tx broadcast data too. It can't be all from proxies.
20:21:36 <plowsof> How do node operators run monerod without logs 
20:22:16 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> Actually I will take a wild guess and say that at some point node.moneroworld.com pointed at at least 2 chainanalysis nodes, because look the "source" number. This is #003.
20:22:18 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> I bet all XMR I have that they run revere proxies. Eben if they have a lot of money a business will not run their own node :D
20:22:19 <plowsof> I guess that would leave system network logs somewhere  still
20:22:30 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> I bet all XMR I have that they run revere proxies. Even if they have a lot of money a business will not run their own node :D
20:22:34 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/GeNhnoMbHllnhzGgyGnhbVyk
20:22:51 <m-relay_> <r​ucknium:monero.social> You might be able to get a rough estimate of the number of nodes they run, at a snapshot, by their timing data they display. They have data on the time between seeing the same transaction the first and second time. 💡
20:22:53 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> and this is source #140, also showing node.moneroworld.com in the Host header
20:24:34 <m-relay_> <r​ucknium:monero.social> plowsof: log level 0 is basically with no logs. You can also point logs to /dev/null. If you are using NGINX or something you have to turn off NGINX IP logging. AFAIK
20:25:45 <plowsof> Thanks
20:26:08 <m-relay_> <r​ucknium:monero.social> But if you have a spy that can read your RAM, then the spy can get info of course.
20:26:10 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Loglevel 0 isnt logs
20:26:34 <plowsof> A best effort then
20:26:36 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Log_level=ofrn is no logs
20:26:40 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> try `set_log ofrn` if you dont believe me :P
20:26:56 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Loglevel 0 isnt no logs
20:27:25 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Seriously.
20:27:57 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> The IP address here is not residential and virustotal shows that it's related to ransomware and other malware possibly. This might explain why it was making RPC calls not used in regular wallets.
20:27:58 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/85.248.227.164/relations
20:28:57 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> and also why chainanalysis is interested in this tx, it's related to cybercrime
20:30:36 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> same goes for this one https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/185.220.100.252/detection
20:35:05 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Mitm with no https biatches!
20:37:53 <plowsof> Wouldnt you be using the mitm's certs and https wouldnt help?
20:38:29 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> this one is a tor exit node https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ip-address/185.220.100.252/detection
20:39:32 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Depends if your doing what stnby is saying
20:40:39 <m-relay_> <d​ave.jp:matrix.org> If the wallet validates cert or fingerprints ? How does fdroid avoid mitm ?
20:50:26 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> By mitm I meant
20:50:26 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> L4 level
20:50:28 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> imagine such Caddy config
20:50:30 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> ```
20:50:32 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> node.shitserver.com {
20:50:34 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu>     reverse_proxy  xmr-node.cakewallet.com:18081  https://xmr.bunkerlab.net  nodex.monerujo.io:18081 
20:50:36 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> }
20:50:38 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> ```
20:50:48 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> By mitm I meant
20:50:48 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> L4 level
20:50:50 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> imagine such Caddy config
20:50:52 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> ```
20:50:54 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> node.shitserver.com {
20:50:56 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu>     reverse_proxy xmr-node.cakewallet.com:18081 https://xmr.bunkerlab.net nodex.monerujo.io:18081 
20:50:58 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> }
20:51:00 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> ```
20:51:49 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> By mitm I meant
20:51:50 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> L4 level
20:51:52 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> imagine such Caddy config
20:51:54 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> ```
20:51:56 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> node.shitserver.com {
20:51:58 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu>     reverse_proxy xmr-node.cakewallet.com:18081 https://xmr.bunkerlab.net nodex.monerujo.io:18081 
20:52:00 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> }
20:52:02 <m-relay_> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> ```
20:55:05 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> There is a monero proxy github somewhere
20:58:28 <ofrnxmr> Ginger uses one of these :)
20:58:31 <ofrnxmr> Gingeropolice
20:59:15 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> This might prompt me to finish setting up graylog
20:59:23 <ofrnxmr> He had 5 nodes setup on his proxy, but deleted 2 quickly and refused to reveal the others
21:01:02 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Gingerninja
21:13:47 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> there were more nodes on xmrnode.com subdomains, this reddit comment is now deleted https://web.archive.org/web/20230607131724/https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6yaedn/psa_nodemoneroworldcom_18089_seems_down_please/
21:13:53 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/kernal.eu/hxmPaPBWvoQxWLvgeIVMTCxQ
21:14:41 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> there were more nodes on xmrnode.com subdomains https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6yaedn/psa\_nodemoneroworldcom\_18089\_seems\_down\_please/
21:15:30 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Only crimes run there own node!
21:17:40 <m-relay_> <c​:frei.chat> Is xmr.stormycloud.org:18089 safe?
21:18:02 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Nfi
21:18:05 <m-relay_> <c​:frei.chat> In all of these honeypot nodes
21:18:25 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Try 127.0.0.1
21:18:43 <m-relay_> <c​:frei.chat> No SSD :(
21:19:12 <plowsof> Why bot use a tor node?
21:19:34 <plowsof> Not* 
21:19:59 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> If you must use a remote node, use an onion node
21:20:07 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> AilliA:  ^^^^
21:20:27 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Tell doug and btdev ofrn says 🖕🖕🖕🖕
21:20:36 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> :D
21:20:52 <m-relay_> <c​:frei.chat> They have an onion address
21:21:07 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Fkn xmrbazaar using remote nodes for their excrow
21:21:10 <m-relay_> <c​:frei.chat> They have an onion address too
21:21:27 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> And telling me how its perfectly fine
21:21:57 <plowsof> Use any onion that broadcasts your tx
21:21:59 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> telling me to go ask person A B or C.
21:22:36 <m-relay_> <c​:frei.chat> 👍️
21:23:03 <plowsof> A list of active tor nodes can be found in featherwallet.org wallet
21:24:01 <m-relay_> <c​:frei.chat> It's included in the list
21:30:17 <m-relay_> <s​iren:kernal.eu> actually nah you can't do round-robin CNAMEs like that
21:30:41 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> based on?
21:36:05 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Google reviews
21:36:52 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> I have used ivpn for 3 years no issue
21:39:50 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> your product tastes good, 5 stars
21:51:26 <m-relay_> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> first class monero support, no hdd server with boot transparency, more audits than ivpn, cheaper and constant prices
21:51:42 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Same audits
21:52:05 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> yeah, IVPN gets constant audits
21:52:19 <m-relay_> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but i may be wrong. my conclusion was mostly based on my circle and I've mostly seen people using mullvad and not particularly appreciating ivpn
21:52:26 <m-relay_> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i believe yo
21:52:37 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Trust me bruh
21:53:01 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://www.ivpn.net/blog/your-vpn-provider-wont-go-to-jail-for-you/
21:53:11 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> straight facts
21:53:33 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> There is that
21:53:44 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> No one dying on the hill for you
21:54:47 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> back in business with FBI https://libreddit.privacydev.net/r/Monero/comments/1f9uu9j/fixedfloat_has_restored_monero/
21:55:40 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Ivpn has better wiki/guides
21:56:49 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> And viktor floats around
21:56:57 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Here