00:07:43 <m-relay_> <b​asses:matrix.org> madman lol
00:07:55 <m-relay_> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> nononynous: how would that be done with a round-robin of volunteer nodes?
00:21:30 <m-relay_> <d​ave.jp:matrix.org> There should be no round-robin, if there is then it should be redirects
08:27:32 <m-relay_> <d​ufebo98:monero.social> monerohash showed there were more than 4000 xmr nodes all over the world. My question is whether these nodes are just reachable nodes or all of them
09:24:47 <m-relay_> <n​ononynous:monero.social> Is there a command to remove a specific transaction in my node ?
09:26:08 <m-relay_> <n​ononynous:monero.social> Expect posting on monero.town + reddit idk honestly
09:28:25 <plowsof> where is the transaction in your node? mempool? flush_txpool ?
09:31:52 <m-relay_> <n​ononynous:monero.social> It was in mempool, thanks your command solved the problem
09:32:56 <m-relay_> <n​ononynous:monero.social> The transaction was too big to be relayed but it kept it in mempool so displaying double-spend attempts everywhere
09:33:26 <plowsof> we have to mine our own mordinals now 
09:33:55 <plowsof> did the reference wallet create a too big transaction?
09:34:33 <m-relay_> <n​ononynous:monero.social> I forgot if it was on feather or the wallet-server-rpc
09:34:47 <m-relay_> <n​ononynous:monero.social> But it tried to consolidate above 100 UTXOs
09:36:02 <plowsof> interesting, that sounds like a bug 
09:36:20 <m-relay_> <n​ononynous:monero.social> My node shown
09:36:20 <m-relay_> <n​ononynous:monero.social> notify::send_txs provided message exceeding covert fragment size
11:00:20 <m-relay_> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Did u add txextra stuff?
11:00:25 <m-relay_> <a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org> I heard something about chainalysis using DNS to hijack public monero nodes and intercept their traffic or something is this correct?
11:03:37 <m-relay_> <d​ufebo98:monero.social> I heard the same thing. Can running my own node help? i used to send transactions via my own node but without VPN or Tor on my node
11:04:39 <m-relay_> <h​bs:matrix.org> Is there some special magic that needs to be summoned to build lws on Ubuntu? I get an error at the final linking stage about crypto_verifier_32 not being found iirc
11:07:22 <k4r4b3y> a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org: here's the chainalysis presentation on that topic: https://odysee.com/@karapara:8/chainalysis_XMR:6
11:08:02 <k4r4b3y> as far as I understand, chainalysis has been running tatletale nodes, that keep track of the wallets' activities that connect to them.
11:08:50 <m-relay_> <d​ufebo98:monero.social> So, run your own node
11:08:50 <k4r4b3y> d​ufebo98:monero.social: ues running your own node helps.  If you can't run your own node try to use tor for connecting to remote nodes as much as possible.
11:10:17 <k4r4b3y> d​ufebo98:monero.social: you don't need to hide your *node* 's connection to its other peers behind a vpn/tor.  Monero's dandelion++ stuff helps obfuscating the source of the tx announcement origin.
11:10:55 <k4r4b3y> That is, even if your monero node is on the clearnet, some third party surveiling your node's published transactions cannot be sure that your node was the origin of these new transactions.
11:12:46 <k4r4b3y> the chainalysis video actually does a good job of explaining the efficacy of dandy++ imo
11:13:08 <k4r4b3y> on a related note: was that video the best PR monero has had in a long while?
11:13:40 <k4r4b3y> The guy was actually praising Monero... to the IRS agents of all people (!).
11:16:19 <m-relay_> <d​ufebo98:monero.social> That’s cool. I love monero
11:25:26 <plowsof> and yet people on reddit are trying to "dox" him, sad 
11:25:36 <m-relay_> <a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org> I do, but I also run a public one on a VPS and now I'm wondering if it can be hijacked via DNS.
11:25:46 <k4r4b3y> plowsof: well he did dox himself, during his presentation.
11:26:18 <k4r4b3y> a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org: "hijacked via DNS" <--- explain this term please.
11:29:51 <m-relay_> <a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org> Ah looks like they set up reverse proxies to real nodes: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1fbp2c2/what_chainalysis_does_is/
11:33:02 <m-relay_> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Who we doxxing?
11:36:18 <k4r4b3y> Someone's true name.
11:37:30 <plowsof> the based thing to do is learn from/improve Monero after that video leak (which is what is currently happening 💪) 
11:38:09 <k4r4b3y> Yeah
11:38:21 <k4r4b3y> What doesn't kill..
11:39:42 <k4r4b3y> Well, as far as I understood the abovementioned presentation, co-spending is an issue with monero (which, FCMP's should alleviate).
11:39:54 <k4r4b3y> However, the tattletale node issue is something another.
11:40:15 <k4r4b3y> To that, my recommendation would be using Tor whenever connecting to a stranger's remote node.
11:42:44 <plowsof> anon networks can only do so much. we depend on the remote node to tell us the state of the blockchain... which decoys to use (attack vector for guessing thhe real spend).. the network fee...  what is the cli flag again? "--this-is-a-spy-node" when adding a remote node lol
12:01:31 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> odysee still have buffering issues?
12:01:58 <k4r4b3y> b​asses:matrix.org: does it?  I used it to see the video without issues.
12:02:40 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> doesn't matter tbh, also pointless
12:04:00 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> however, everyone that works in chainalysis is a 🤡
12:04:47 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> last time I used it sucked
12:06:16 <k4r4b3y> Chainalysis dudes are just doing their "jobs."  If Monero can be traced, it's not their fault imo.
12:07:47 <k4r4b3y> You can feel anger and disappointment.  However, that shouldn't be the community response to this.
12:08:37 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> agree, at least this video brought awareness and confirmed some theories
12:08:55 <k4r4b3y> Yes.
12:10:03 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> need to focus on improving all possible attack vectors, whilst advocating for good OpSec and threat modeling.
12:10:26 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> mitigating all possible*
12:10:39 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> improving the attack vectors 😃
12:10:50 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> got caught
12:11:25 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> happens to the best of us. wearing too many caps will do that to ya
12:13:01 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> need to rotate identity
12:15:01 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Fake death and born again
12:41:53 <m-relay> <d​ufebo98:monero.social> When will FCMP++ be available? I have donated
12:43:02 <m-relay> <d​ave.jp:matrix.org> 2026
12:49:48 <k4r4b3y> What's the process for briding a monero matrix room to libera IRC?  For example, can I request `#monero-turkce:monero.social` matrix room to be bridged to libera IRC?
12:49:51 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> 2025
12:50:15 <m-relay> <d​ave.jp:matrix.org> Maybe testnet
12:50:22 <k4r4b3y> b​asses:matrix.org: 2025 for FCMP would be great.
12:51:32 <m-relay> <d​ave.jp:matrix.org> 2025 mainnet is too optimistic
12:52:53 <k4r4b3y> I have been trying to follow the fcmp developments from monero.observer.  Is there some other place that keeps tabs on development-happenings with FCMP (other than the monero-dev room, I know).
12:53:57 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> #no-wallet-left-behind:monero.social
12:54:06 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> #monero-research-lab:monero.social
12:54:13 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sometimes #monero-research-lounge:monero.social
14:27:08 <m-relay> <n​vmitsmatrixdotorg:matrix.org> Banhammer MOOODS @gcal96:matrix.locker98.com is spreading FUD about the best hoster in the world servers.guru!!!!
14:27:28 <m-relay> <g​cal96:matrix.locker98.com> servers.guru is the worst hoster in the world
14:31:33 <m-relay> <n​vmitsmatrixdotorg:matrix.org> Banhammer MOOODS @adsfoasdofkj:matrix.locker98.com is spreading FUD about the best hoster in the world servers.guru!!!!
14:32:17 <m-relay> <a​dsfoasdofkj:matrix.locker98.com> shut up
14:32:19 <m-relay> <a​dsfoasdofkj:matrix.locker98.com> stop spamming
14:32:23 <m-relay> <a​dsfoasdofkj:matrix.locker98.com> you should be banned
14:34:30 <m-relay> <s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Sorry guys to bring all this crap to your channel and all the other ones. I have no idea what his problem is.
14:37:18 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Probably a competitor of yours or something
14:40:06 <m-relay> <q​uickex:matrix.org> Hey fam! Wanted to know your opinion/personal experience about Houdini swap
14:41:47 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Troll
14:42:26 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> that monday feelin'
16:59:26 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> ive got my monero signal group to almost 100 members. if you want to join id be happy to have you
16:59:26 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> https://signal.group/#CjQKIMtPr_BcagCe6ARHnHOYXMzS-WMLFVndrjRX-QLye9foEhDjts9QEhsvErDn7i0oiZaV
17:04:06 <boldsuck> @n​vmitsmatrixdotorg:matrix.org: Come on, best hoster in the world is 'mzunguhosting.ml' with double Backbone backup via RFC1149
17:30:35 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://cointelegraph.com/news/chainalysis-leak-monero-traceability
17:58:57 <m-relay> <s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> It’s over
18:02:01 <m-relay> <j​abster28:matrix.org> is this the one that was shared on the discord?
18:02:36 <m-relay> <j​abster28:matrix.org> apparently they were running some remote nodes and managed to de anon some txs from that
18:05:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Why's this room broken again
18:06:12 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> because of you
18:06:16 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> be better
18:06:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> It shows way down in my list, last msg "yesterday"
18:07:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> quickex:  cant send msgs here, and cant be kicked either
18:31:10 <nioCat> room isn't broken  :)
18:31:58 <k4r4b3y> https://web.archive.org/web/20240909154524/https://cointelegraph.com/news/chainalysis-leak-monero-traceability
18:32:04 <k4r4b3y> for those of us who live in an onion
18:41:25 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> Ah yes, cointelegraph slop article
18:49:07 <k4r4b3y> masses loove their slops
18:52:05 <rbrunner> Well, I have seen worse from CoinTelegraph. They could have asked in the very title "Is Monero dead?" or similar after all
18:56:08 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> as low as Wired? https://www.wired.com/story/monero-privacy/
18:58:30 <k4r4b3y> is that from 2018
19:00:14 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> yes
19:46:15 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Time to exit left
19:46:47 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> Nyx: approved .town
19:47:13 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Rss back for town?
20:36:12 <m-relay> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> We published our research on how malicious Chainanalysis nodes made their way into popular Monero wallets. And dangling DNS record abuse.
20:36:12 <m-relay> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> https://x.com/digilolnet/status/1833241032739459098
20:36:14 <m-relay> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> https://nitter.poast.org/digilolnet/status/1833241032739459098
20:44:53 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> Stnby: Thanks! Typo in
20:44:54 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> > Based on these results we concluded that there is less of such atatck happening than we initially thought.
20:52:05 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> thanks
20:53:09 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Great, thanks
20:53:15 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> direct link: https://www.digilol.net/blog/chainanalysis-malicious-xmr.html
20:55:43 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> I forgot to share it here but if anyone wants to be in this giveaway https://x.com/RetoChan__/status/1830962347298709743
20:58:10 <BlueyHealer> Kind of not worried about this because a) my threat model is low and b) West is unlikely to cooperate with our LE here anyway.
20:59:16 <BlueyHealer> Saved the article, thanks!
21:00:06 <m-relay> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> Leave a heart for a ban
21:05:42 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> selsta, are alleged spy nodes going to be removed from GUI?
21:08:18 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Talking about selsta list?
21:09:13 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> yes?
22:18:48 <selsta> basses: is there a list of active known spy node IPs?
22:24:19 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> c3, moneroworld, hashvault, supportxmr? some are mining pools which feather recently removed from their list https://github.com/feather-wallet/feather/commit/5453936abd2461bcf7d9a3acf74dfe031cd7b5e9
22:30:23 <m-relay> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> My personal suggestion is to not trust nodes where root domain throws an ssl error or has no legit looking website there
22:31:02 <m-relay> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> My personal suggestion is to not trust nodes where root domain throws an ssl error or has no legit looking website there. Also all nodes that don't have a domain at all
22:31:24 <m-relay> <s​tnby:kernal.eu> My personal suggestion is to not trust nodes where root domain throws an ssl error or has no legit looking website there. Also all nodes that don't have a domain at all, oh and also all the Contabo ones
22:42:28 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> >no legit looking website there
22:42:30 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://moneroworld.com/ the sus one have a very original homepage
22:42:32 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> >Contabo ones
22:42:34 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> CPU steal goes brrrr, but still not a good metric tho
22:43:36 <plowsof> if theyre hosting a minecraft server on the same ip, theyre good people 
22:49:57 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> You know what would be cool though, a Monero casino on a Minecraft server with customer texture packs and models and play with real XMR. A kid friendly illegal underground gambling ring.
22:50:12 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> You know what would be cool though, a Monero casino on a Minecraft server with custom texture packs and models and play with real XMR. A kid friendly illegal underground gambling ring.
22:53:07 <plowsof> i wouldnt advise anyone to deposit monero to a minecraft server though https://www.planetminecraft.com/server/bitvegas-built-in-crypto-casino/ 
23:04:21 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> Lol I know the owner of that
23:05:18 <m-relay> <k​ewbit:matrix.org> Not bitvegas, planetminecraft
23:52:18 <plowsof> stnby i organically stumbled upon 37.27.89.118:18089 when checking for malicious nodes also 
23:53:31 <plowsof> and about 21 others in the 37.27 range