01:34:11 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Rip nioc
02:25:08 <geonic> here's a shorter link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ropOpen5Xxk
02:32:23 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> I will use limewire?
08:00:32 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> wasnt the whole thing with streaming torrents that it leaks your ip even with vpn
08:01:00 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> at least thats what i read recently when someone asked about why it hasnt caught on
08:07:33 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> doubt it
08:07:55 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> otherwise i would be in jail for copyright 😬
08:15:32 <BlueyHealer> I never bother with a VPN when torrenting, here it is effectively legal.
08:16:15 <BlueyHealer> Even if a crime needs to be quickly constructed to get someone in trouble, it is never torrents even fi the person has done them.
08:30:12 <m-relay> <m​mxxx:monero.social> where is "here" BlueyHealer?
09:12:47 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> ?????
09:13:27 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> if you don't bind the VPN to qbittorrent
09:25:44 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> If you badly configure torrenting yes
09:26:23 <m-relay> <n​ononynous:monero.social> FYI: I2P support torrenting
09:28:07 <k4r4b3y> i2pd + qbittorrent is the best setup
09:28:38 <k4r4b3y> with debian trixie (probably 2025) torrenting on the i2p network will be as easy as `sudo apt install qbittorrent i2pd`
12:06:15 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Bro they took the archive video down lolol. fluffypony
12:06:17 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> https://archive.org/details/chainalysis_XMR
12:06:35 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Anyone knows any alternative?
12:07:27 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> His site is down also and he is unresponsive? Lol.
12:07:54 <k4r4b3y> a mirror lives here: https://rumble.com/v5ekk39-chainalysis-presentation-on-monero-to-irs-august-2023.html
12:09:16 <fluffypony> lol they're really trying hard
12:13:32 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Who will be the defiant VPS provider who will host our 10 mirrors in response?
12:13:49 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Frankly its possible, I hope he's alright
12:14:13 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> I'd recommend to host it on a .onion site personally
12:15:00 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> That'll prevent them from figuring out where the content is
12:15:50 <k4r4b3y> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d371d4e4cb9a3760ef79e94fde0b8edf22062e49&dn=Chainalysis+Presentation+on+Monero+to+IRS+-+August+2023&tr=http://tracker2.postman.i2p/announce.php
12:15:59 <k4r4b3y> Here's your darknet magnet link bro
12:17:07 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> I need to make a tutorial on i2p torrenting, how's the bandwidth over there ? Better than tor ?
12:17:24 <k4r4b3y> Bandwidth for general web browsing on i2p is worse than tor
12:17:38 <k4r4b3y> But torrenting "scene" on i2p is much much better than whatever they have over on tor
12:17:48 <k4r4b3y> The good thing about i2p is that every client is also a router
12:18:03 <k4r4b3y> So, while torrenting, you are also contributing to the i2p network's total bandwidth
12:18:22 <k4r4b3y> So, in theory, the i2p network bandwidth expands in proportion to the amount of its users (ie, routers).
12:18:37 <k4r4b3y> While in tor, I use whonix all day long without routing any tor packs
12:18:57 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Yea tor depends on people running public nodes
12:19:09 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Not just people running tor on their computers
12:19:25 <k4r4b3y> n​ihilist:nowhere.moe: I would appreciate if you prepared a guide for using i2pd + qbittorrent for seeding and feeding i2p torrents
12:19:39 <k4r4b3y> Mental Outlaw has recently put out a video for using i2psnark for torrenting
12:19:47 <k4r4b3y> but I think qbittorrent has a better UI
12:20:31 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> I'll add that to my tutorials list yea
12:20:40 <k4r4b3y> Yeah
12:21:02 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> That's a question I get regularly too, how to transfer a big amount of files quickly, and anonymously
12:21:11 <k4r4b3y> I was also going to write one on the same topic and add to my collection on karapara.kyun.li/wiki 
12:22:04 <k4r4b3y> "...transfer a big amount of files quickly, and anonymously" <--- If you are transferring among your own devices: Syncthing over Tor, or I2P networks.
12:22:18 <k4r4b3y> If you are transferring between different persons, i2p + torrent
12:23:02 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Thing is, due to tor rotating circuits regularly, the download may fail midway
12:23:17 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Hence the need to go the torrent route yea
12:23:25 <k4r4b3y> is this comment for syncting over tor?
12:23:46 <k4r4b3y> I am using syncthing over tor (ie, between two .onion endpoints that my devices hosts) all day all night.  Works without a hitch.
12:24:05 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Not familiar with syncting, OK I need to try that out
12:24:19 <k4r4b3y> Good.  You can ping me if you have Q's.
12:24:47 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> But when using the regular http download or scp over tor, u can't have the connection failing midway is what I had in mind
12:26:53 <k4r4b3y> "...transfer a big amount of files quickly, and anonymously" <--- also for ephemeral ones, onionshare works as well.
12:27:34 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Onionshare is fine even if you have let's say a zipfile that weighs 100GB ?
12:28:06 <k4r4b3y> a 100 gigs is too big for onionshare
12:28:22 <k4r4b3y> If you are moving 100 gigs in between your machines, do syncthing + tor
12:28:43 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Got it, will definitely look into it then
12:28:53 <k4r4b3y> onionshare is prone to failure during its operation with large files.
12:29:11 <k4r4b3y> and when onionshare fails, you have to start all over
12:29:29 <k4r4b3y> at least syncthing supports partial transfers and picks where it lost connection (if it ever loses connection).
12:29:32 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Yea that's the main concern I have
12:29:47 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Ok Neat
12:41:17 <BlueyHealer> Could syncthing be used to transfer files to another person though?
12:41:38 <BlueyHealer> (personally considering it, but only on local network)
12:41:43 <k4r4b3y> I haven't tried to use syncthing between two people
12:41:48 <k4r4b3y> but it should work, imo
12:42:02 <k4r4b3y> the thing you do with syncthing is that you exchange each other's "certificate"
12:42:27 <k4r4b3y> and once both parties have each others' certs, the syncthing network begins syncing the selected directories in between them
12:43:09 <k4r4b3y> Now, if you want to use the whole thing over tor hidden services, both you and your friend should host an onion service
12:43:21 <k4r4b3y> and you should exchange each others' .onion service URLs
12:43:26 <k4r4b3y> I should write a guide on this
12:48:38 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> I'll do a few guides on how to torrent via VPN / Tor / i2p as well I think
12:48:46 <k4r4b3y> Cool
12:48:58 <k4r4b3y> More people should understand and use such techniques of file sharing.
12:49:31 <k4r4b3y> aka, "Can we move beyond utilizing centralilzed services in the year of our lord 2000 + 24?"
12:49:42 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Yea its a topic that comes up often aswell, will be a good addition
12:49:48 <k4r4b3y> yep
13:18:19 <BlueyHealer> I don't really know of reputable cebtralized services that distribute big media like films or series, though - but I do use Yandex Music or Youtube for my music downloads, as it is more convenient when you are not downloading the entire album.
14:07:21 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> >reputable centralized services that distribute big media like films or series
14:07:35 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> Piracy
14:07:36 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> https://knaben.eu/
14:07:38 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> https://www.1337x.to/
14:07:40 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> https://nyaa.si/
14:07:42 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> https://solidtorrents.to/
14:07:44 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> https://freegogpcgames.com/
14:07:46 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> http://gog-games.com/
14:07:48 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> https://knaben.eu/
14:07:50 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> https://www.1337x.to/
14:07:52 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> https://nyaa.si/
14:07:54 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> https://solidtorrents.to/
14:07:56 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> https://freegogpcgames.com/
14:07:58 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> http://gog-games.com/
14:08:15 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> of course only use these to torrent linux distros
14:08:46 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> youtube re-vanced and yt music re-vanced
14:09:22 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I thought solidtorrents was dead
14:09:44 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> NewPipe sir
14:09:53 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> newpipe broke for me once
14:10:19 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> i liked it a lot but yt not working for 3 days made me invest the 10 minutes to install re-vanced after vanced broke like a year ago
14:10:47 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Skill issue i see... Not gonna judge
14:11:06 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> no youtube changed something and it broke all videos
14:11:35 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> im kidding its probably yt yeah it happen often
14:11:51 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> kek i just checked, i didnt do yt music revanced, im still using vanced
14:12:10 <m-relay> <j​abster28:matrix.org> pipepipe fixed it within hours so i've been using them since
14:12:14 <m-relay> <j​abster28:matrix.org> idk what the difference is but they still have sponsor block so
14:16:46 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> This video has been sponsored by raid shadow legend
14:17:19 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Or NordVPN
14:17:24 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> This application has been sponsored by raid shadow legend
15:02:49 <BlueyHealer> monerobull, I meant that in the sense that the torrents don't host the files themselves. I know some, yeah.
15:03:47 <BlueyHealer> I use Rutracker mostly, it is pretty high-quality, even though with their Atomic Heart stunt it seems like they bend to some copyright holders due to being so huge and legitimate.
15:03:57 <BlueyHealer> Also, Newpipe >> Revanced.
15:04:02 <BlueyHealer> And RiMusic.
15:04:37 <BlueyHealer> I know it breaks, but it is just lighter and works noticeably better.
16:03:32 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I propose next Monero meeting is done in real life.
16:04:33 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> We all fly to Antarctica and execute the usual hour meeting then everyone fly off
16:04:39 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:matrix.org> there is one in frankfurt germany in about 1 month
16:05:07 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Sorry. I meant meeTING not mEETUP.
16:05:25 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> like MRL meeTING, or NWLB meetings
16:10:28 <nioCat> there are flights?
16:10:58 <moneromooo> Hopefully not.
16:11:38 <moneromooo> If there are, maybe we should start arming penguins with MANPADS.
16:11:57 <nioCat> :)
16:23:11 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> lol
16:26:28 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> yo bro you funny as hell wanna join this signal monero group i moderate? Monerobull can testify to it not being a honey pot as he's in it too
16:26:43 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> https://signal.group/#CjQKIMtPr_BcagCe6ARHnHOYXMzS-WMLFVndrjRX-QLye9foEhDjts9QEhsvErDn7i0oiZaV
16:27:13 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> i am?
16:27:24 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> i dont use signal
16:27:50 <m-relay> <e​ndor00:matrix.org> You seem to spend a lot of time saying "it's not a honeypot trust me bro"
16:28:25 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> also, i dont use signal, why do you claim i could "testify"?
16:28:58 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> oh shit my bad its another guy with a similar name i just checked
16:29:00 <m-relay> <m​onerobull:monero.social> lol
16:29:18 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> yeah i only do it cause you all say it is
16:29:41 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> if you mean signal itself is a honeypot, fine, but the group is legit
16:30:16 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> i have 90 members that could testify to that. im the only moderator and i barely moderate, just no spamming and no nsfw
16:42:01 <nioCat> I am in a group here
16:42:29 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> fed excuse
16:42:35 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> FED EXcuse
16:42:56 <nioCat> I live stream to the nsa
16:43:11 <nioCat> they have taken a liking to Cat so I am safe
18:00:06 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero Issue 210: September 5 - 12, 2024. https://www.revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-210/
18:03:36 <BlueyHealer> BTW why do you personally not use Signal? I just have quite a deep disdain for it myself.
18:05:01 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> bro your cool and all but:
18:05:02 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> why we should use signal when we have better options? we we should use both? thats the problem, we are not 90yo people to get our grandchildren to install some super easy to use social media app which has better privacy options than telegram or whatsapp, just use the fuking simplex right?
18:06:13 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> and element is not an alternative to signal, its an alternative to IRC and discord, different use case and community, its like asking people why you buy google pixel when you have asus laptop
18:06:19 <BlueyHealer> I do use it for a couple of contacts, but would not consider it as my primary messaging option. Since it would only be able to be used for real-life people, not even this non-anonymous identity I have all over various chat protocols!
18:06:40 <BlueyHealer> Element is Electron anyway. I do use Matrix for some things but prefer Cinny/Nheko.
18:07:17 <k4r4b3y> I think signal is a great the-middle-of-the-road option for secure messaging.  Don't need to get to the deep end of autism (simplex, I guess), nor to the deep end of normiedom (whatsapp).
18:09:00 <BlueyHealer> Yeah, but it for me has enough usability issues that add up into being not a good solution. To each their own, I understand - but still. Writing a blog post on it now, and so far it does differ quite a bit from other posts I've seen on this topic.
18:09:21 <BlueyHealer> Also why is Simplex autism?
18:09:27 <k4r4b3y> I try to stay away from matrix.  Most of the times with matrix I am in hacker community chat rooms, and some of them still use IRC bridges (god bless!).  Tbh, after using IRC, I don't want to touch matrix nor its electron bloat clients.
18:09:47 <BlueyHealer> It is very easy to use and understand, it was the goal. I do fear that it may enshittify as it has a for-profit entity behind it.
18:10:24 <BlueyHealer> I do use Matrix but much prefer IRC or XMPP. You can see it from what side of the bridge I am at)
18:10:25 <k4r4b3y> "Also why is Simplex autism?" <--- no phone number means you have to be a bit autistic in how to facilitate contact discovery.  Don't get me wrong: no phone number is awesome for privacy communities.  But I don't want/need to go such lengths when I am simply chatting my brother.
18:10:58 <BlueyHealer> k4r4b3y, how is "sending a link/showing a QR" different from "sending/showing a phone number"?
18:11:05 <k4r4b3y> BlueyHealer: IRC; the old folks had the right idea with it.
18:11:38 <BlueyHealer> But yeah, not being able to share an account between phone and computer is an issue in usability indeed. I get around it by having two accounts in each group, but I see how it can be inconvenient for 1-to-1.
18:11:49 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> well its your POV, my non-tech contacts use telegram because it was ahead of its counterparts by few years feature wise like groups channels custom proxy settings etc etc, and if im going to convince them to switch to something better, signal is way worse feature wise and privacy wise is not much better tbh, thats why i taught them how to use simplex for personal conversations or <clipped message>
18:11:50 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> anything that you dont want to reach darknet market
18:11:55 <k4r4b3y> BlueyHealer: how to send a link and how to make sure the link doesn't get corrupted through the comms medium (email, etc) activates a bit of my autism powers.
18:12:24 <BlueyHealer> Unfortunately, I too am stuck on Telegram because otherwise I would be out of the loop on everything. At least I am not on Whatsapp which is the same but with trash usability.
18:13:41 <BlueyHealer> Signal is too control freak-ish for me.
18:13:55 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> lol
18:13:56 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> its easy to chat with your brother, in return its kinda hard for now to use it as a business contact info because of how you need to send a req and wait for them to become online
18:14:26 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> do you use email for communicating with your brother?
18:16:13 <k4r4b3y> ohfuck rumble just deleted my chainalysis video upload.  Used to be here: https://rumble.com/v5ekk39-chainalysis-presentation-on-monero-to-irs-august-2023.html
18:17:02 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> how decentralized and free platform of them
18:17:04 <BlueyHealer> They don't work with a normal proxy - only their own specific kind (at least Molly allows a normal Socks). It hides the .apk on its website with dark patterns and refuses to have an F-Droid repo (if they're so opposed to being in the main repo). Which baffles me the most - they don't allow registering from desktop officially, instead pushing people onto mobile (all while most mobiles can't even
18:17:06 <BlueyHealer> have a custom privacy-preserving OS installed), with workarounds like signal-cli being not only annoying, but inaccessible to the crowd that Signal targets, the non-tech-savvy people.
18:17:51 <BlueyHealer> Rumble puts me off by the... specific crowd that is prevalent there.
18:20:32 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> the main problem with these kinds of projects are:
18:20:34 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> they are not originated from the required root/ground/background
18:20:36 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> FOSS doesnt work and flawed thats why big corps that they were trying to fight with, took over the FOSS world
18:21:46 <BlueyHealer> Also, as for Signal - even this identity I could not have used in it, because I do use it with some IRL contacts with my real number already, which I would not like to be the same identity I chat on IRC under. And I don't know how to use online rentals yet (no need to learn anyway, much easier to avoid services that require a number and slowly get rid of existing ones).
18:22:05 <BlueyHealer> FOSS does work tho
18:22:17 <BlueyHealer> In the long run, it is more likely to survive.
18:27:22 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> it needs to blend with decentralization or privacy and anonymity
18:29:56 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> open source open source initiative got hijacked and banned the both founders lol
18:29:56 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> most of the major upstream distros are anti FOSS or over-political, kernel devs throwing tantrum because they dont like rust and no one can do shit about it and so on...
18:30:12 <m-relay> <s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> What’s going on with the Monero Markets chat
18:30:32 <m-relay> <s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/yJlfgvFkbuUIYyFheGkzWvtc
18:31:18 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> this mf is spamming the server for a week
18:31:29 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> they did ban him but he returns with new group of accounts
18:32:54 <k4r4b3y> what's a chinese YT-clone platform that I can upload the chainalysis video "leak" to?
18:35:05 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> bilibili.com
18:35:21 <k4r4b3y> noice
18:35:31 <k4r4b3y> on it.  right after I complete the upload to dailymotion
18:38:22 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> XD
18:43:29 <k4r4b3y> "bilibili.com" <--- lol they don't even have english interface
18:43:41 <k4r4b3y> I am getting filtered
18:49:12 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> You can also upload to ok.ru or vk.com
18:49:21 <k4r4b3y> got it
18:50:49 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> i wonder if any 'no kyc' swappers would host the video for us as a good PR move
18:56:51 <k4r4b3y> Here's the streisand effect you ordered: https://dai.ly/k5nZul5k9rBESGBsZ7G
18:58:33 <k4r4b3y> https://vimeo.com/1009284260?share=copy
19:03:16 <BlueyHealer> I wonder how strict the KYC would be on a Chinese platform though. Here the platforms are required to identify people, usually by phone number. I can only guess it is much worse in China.
19:03:50 <k4r4b3y> chinese wanted phone number
19:03:58 <BlueyHealer> OK/VK will require a phone for sure. But yeah, in terms of American reach would be a good place.
19:04:10 <k4r4b3y> and only the mainland ones I guess.  No international ones were available for selection on bilibili
19:04:24 <BlueyHealer> k4r4b3y, are there even Chinese rentals?
19:04:31 <k4r4b3y> ok.ru -- I can rent an sms verification phone number and bypass it
19:04:38 <k4r4b3y> but the bilibili one is a hard-stopper.
19:04:44 <BlueyHealer> Ah, international ones do work.
19:04:52 <k4r4b3y> go for it then
19:04:57 <k4r4b3y> spread em wide
19:05:38 <BlueyHealer> I just wanted to warn that ok.ru is a zombie, filled by elderly people slowly dying off, with nobody coming. VK is not the best in this either, but at least it is actually alive.
19:06:05 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> > and only the mainland ones I guess
19:06:06 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> Ah shit. I paid for wechat/baidu verification online before and it didn't work. Don't attempt.
19:06:17 <BlueyHealer> I won't be doing this because I have never used a number rental, lol. And hesitant to do so)
19:06:28 <BlueyHealer> siren, it has specifics to i
19:06:32 <BlueyHealer> it?
19:06:33 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> BlueyHealer: we don't care, all we care about is link to a publicly viewable video and that the video doesn't get DMCA'd and removed
19:06:43 <k4r4b3y> siren +1
19:07:33 <BlueyHealer> siren, yeah, just that ok is worse than VK in terms of reach, even less people want to go there for any reason.
19:07:40 <BlueyHealer> VK might work tho.
19:07:44 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> communists 4 monero https://tankie.tube/w/iGLfLDVVaph1LkMgV9mBiL
19:07:56 <BlueyHealer> I deleted my VK a while ago lol
19:09:10 <BlueyHealer> siren, so does Baidu/Weechat have some specifics? Like how Facebook/Insta may request a selfie?
19:10:14 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> i got filtered at the mainland china phone number step
19:10:47 <BlueyHealer> I wonder if they have "gray" sims registered to randoms.
19:10:56 <BlueyHealer> Here I have seen such physical sims.
19:11:04 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> k4r4b3y https://xcancel.com/rottenwheel1/status/1834669946095517838 😂
19:11:17 <BlueyHealer> Although you would need a device with changeable IMEI as well, which can be a challenge.
19:11:40 <k4r4b3y> rotten +1
19:11:58 <BlueyHealer> Nice!
19:14:04 <k4r4b3y> bummer that ok.ru tries to call me like an overly clingy gf
19:14:10 <k4r4b3y> just text me sweety ok? no?
19:19:24 <BlueyHealer> I wonder how VK is in comparison. I don't know if it could ask for identity verification a-la Facebook, because everything Mail Ru touches turns into feces)
19:21:01 <k4r4b3y> vk wants me to download their spyware app
19:21:03 <k4r4b3y> no thx bru
19:22:25 <k4r4b3y> I don't count much on vimeo nor dailymotion to have a spine.  So it's all up to the tankies now...
19:24:39 <BlueyHealer> App? It doesn't work on desktop anymore? Or on mobile browser?
19:24:56 <BlueyHealer> Oh wow, it must've gone into even more feces than I left it in.
19:51:48 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> mental outlaw uploaded a tutorial recently, idk if that was the easiest way tho
19:53:26 <BlueyHealer> On i2p torrenting you mean?
19:53:28 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Sith lord has one?
19:54:24 <BlueyHealer> I have not used i2p in quite a while. Should blow the dust off the VM for it (if it is still alive) or set up a new one, and seed the video)
19:54:30 <k4r4b3y> I do wonder if the video-flaggers will go after Doug's latest monerotopia episode
19:54:46 <k4r4b3y> don't watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJysnTpj048
19:54:59 <k4r4b3y> s/monerotopia/monerotalk
19:56:14 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Tldr it
19:56:27 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> There are getting movie length now
19:56:30 <k4r4b3y> BlueyHealer: what do you use for VM'ming?
19:56:44 <k4r4b3y> 321bob321: "movie length" <--- lol yes
19:57:08 <k4r4b3y> I guess tldr is: we thank chainalysis for the best monero PR video in some while
19:57:31 <k4r4b3y> "Monero is OBJECTIVELY better than bitcoin if you are a privacy advocate."
19:57:35 <k4r4b3y> Yes, thank you.
20:10:31 <BlueyHealer> I wonder if this is some hoax.
20:11:29 <BlueyHealer> Although it would mean either someone had something to gain from it (who?) or someone wanted amusement)
20:12:06 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> looks legit to me
20:13:10 <m-relay> <n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> i expected this was their general approach anyway, targeting centralised exchanges like that
20:15:42 <BlueyHealer> I as well would have assumed that they would try operating large clusters of nodes like how they would do with Tor.
21:28:33 <sneurlax> hey where's gupaxx again?
21:28:51 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> [gith](https://github.com/hinto-janai/gupax)
21:29:02 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> [github](https://github.com/hinto-janai/gupax)
21:29:46 <plowsof> here https://github.com/Cyrix126/gupaxx