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02:16:38 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Run exit node at home?
02:16:50 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Hi korg
02:18:59 <nioCat> :D
02:40:49 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> blueyHealer:
02:40:50 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-Executive-Search-2024
02:41:17 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> -Unlimited sick days
02:41:18 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i dont think FOSS works
02:41:23 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> -Unlimited sick days??
02:41:24 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i dont think FOSS works
02:50:54 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> FOSS works GNOME is ass
05:22:00 <m-relay> <k​owalabearhugs_:monero.social> https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-artikel-5-e-v-another-police-raid-in-germany-general-assembly-on-sep-21st-2024/14533
05:27:56 <m-relay> <n​obfg9000:matrix.org> I will use the first DE that implements this: https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2023/07/26/rethinking-window-management/
05:28:31 <m-relay> <n​obfg9000:matrix.org> possibly this
05:28:36 <m-relay> <n​obfg9000:matrix.org> https://github.com/pop-os/cosmic-epoch
05:49:07 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> I will run one in plowsof’s house then
05:57:35 <m-relay> <c​rispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> imagine swatting someone when you can just convince them to volunteer their time and resources to run a valuable service
05:57:59 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Don't run an exit node if you cannot deal with the consequences. That is why I run a normal relay
05:58:17 <m-relay> <r​ecanman:kernal.eu> They don't see it as a "valuable service" at all in most cases
06:11:09 <m-relay> <n​obfg9000:matrix.org> this is why we can't have good things
06:11:13 <BlueyHealer> real_glitch, FOSS is more than just Gnome, y'know. And at that - more than just big organizations.
06:11:18 <m-relay> <n​obfg9000:matrix.org> exit nodes always get abused
06:11:41 <BlueyHealer> At least it's not as dangerous for them as it would be for me...
06:33:18 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> At least you get visitors too
06:34:30 <BlueyHealer> WDYM?
06:34:39 <BlueyHealer> I do not, but only because I am very inactive.
08:25:53 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Hosting an exit node
08:40:03 <BlueyHealer> That is why I don't, at least while I am here.
10:41:53 <m-relay> <a​non_contributor_xmr:monero.social> Rucknium can you please confirm that rucknium.me:18081 and rucknium757bokwv3ss35ftgc3gzb7hgbvvglbg3hisp7tsj2fkd2nyd.onion:18081 are ran by you (I'm confident in the clearnet one, but couldn't confirm the onion one)?
10:41:54 <m-relay> <a​non_contributor_xmr:monero.social> plowsof) can you please confirm that plowsofe6cleftfmk2raiw5h2x66atrik3nja4bfd3zrfa2hdlgworad.onion:18089 and plowsoffjexmxalw73tkjmf422gq6575fc7vicuu4javzn2ynnte6tyd.onion:18089 are ran by you?
10:41:56 <m-relay> <a​non_contributor_xmr:monero.social> btw1: https://plowsof.github.io/ points to https://plowsof.github.io/moneroresearch.info which results in 404, I think it should point directly to https://moneroresearch.info.
10:41:58 <m-relay> <a​non_contributor_xmr:monero.social> btw2: the latest entry on moneroresearch is titled "On Profitability of Nakamoto Souble Spend", I think it it should be "Double Spend".
10:46:42 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Sign with gist
10:46:44 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Or blood
11:14:01 <plowsof> I can comfirm properly  later by signing them, but plowsof on github submitted them to feathers list iirc 
11:17:45 <m-relay> <a​non_contributor_xmr:monero.social> Thanks, I indeed see a feather commit with "plowsofe6cleftfmk2raiw5h2x66atrik3nja4bfd3zrfa2hdlgworad" from you
12:06:47 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> you are correct however these are the biggest FOSS projects out there right
12:06:48 <m-relay> <r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> if its just a single or two member project its fine but it can sustain or retain its freedom when its get big enough
12:35:33 <m-relay> <-​coffeeplease-:monero.social> 👍❤️
14:16:42 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> anon_contributor_xmr: Yes. Both the clearnet and onion addresses point to a Monero node I set up on a rented dedicated server that I do not have physical control of.
14:53:20 <m-relay> <a​non_contributor_xmr:monero.social> Thanks
16:37:28 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> k4r4b3y can actually back up the monero signal group. it's not a honeypot
16:37:39 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> hes in the group i checked
16:38:12 <m-relay> <p​lainred:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/ZbhmkOqhNSwiqtsrqhOULxdl
17:46:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> as much as you shill it, it must b a honeypot
17:47:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> A simple matter for feds to subpoena signal for the ip's and phone numbers of group members
17:51:01 <plowsof> so korg totally disregarded the spam concerns right?
17:58:36 <plowsof> anon_contributor_xmr i signed the 3 onion nodes i run (they have connectivity issues though), hope this confirms https://gist.github.com/plowsof/2d75c44ddc23b2d166307d85f369e060 
18:05:52 <BlueyHealer> ofrnxmr, not just that - even if you're not concerned about the subpoenas, you cannot do something as basic as have two separate identities for different businesses! Well, you can, but you'd need to make sure you log in every week :/
19:45:40 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> ^ noooooooooooooo
19:46:06 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Nioc, plowsof kicked our friend korg
19:52:59 <k4r4b3y> oh, hello eyedeekay
19:53:05 <k4r4b3y> is the "the" eyedeekay?
19:54:25 <eyedeekay> Yes
20:13:12 <m-relay> <n​ya:catmaid.moe> Hi everyone
20:13:14 <m-relay> <n​ya:catmaid.moe> I have a very small amount of monero in a wallet and I can't spend it since the minimum fee is higher
20:13:16 <m-relay> <n​ya:catmaid.moe> How can I merge that amount with a larger coin?
20:13:18 <m-relay> <n​ya:catmaid.moe> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/catmaid.moe/FoKUFKguqaKqXnIZUZQV4sLUKoNiZ3sE
20:14:05 <sneurlax> that dust unfortunately probably cannot be spent.
20:15:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> It can be spent
20:15:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Spend them together with a larger output
20:16:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> But, why do you have such dust?
20:17:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> The fee to sweep them to yourself costs more than the fee to spend them
20:18:06 <m-relay> <n​ya:catmaid.moe> I wanted to know the smallest amount of coin i could send in a transaction
20:19:34 <m-relay> <n​ya:catmaid.moe> How?
20:19:34 <m-relay> <n​ya:catmaid.moe> When I send "all" the amount of my wallet that piconeros remain in my wallet
20:21:44 <sneurlax> thanks for the correction, o​frnxmr
20:22:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> those are unselected for some reason (?)
20:22:22 <sneurlax> interesting that you'd only be helping the blockchain/unspent tx output set by consolidating those...
20:22:45 <sneurlax> seems like a perverse incentive. it costs to clean up dust.  hmm
20:24:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yeah. Its funny when people say "there are xxxxx units on monero/bitcoib" when no.. the min economical unit = the cost  to send 1 output
20:24:40 <k4r4b3y> "min economical unit" <--- this stuff is felt more strongly on the btc side.
20:24:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Around 500 bytes ~0.00001xmr
20:25:09 <k4r4b3y> for example, once upon a time I was using Whirlpool, I would constantly have leftoveer utxos that were good for nothing.
20:25:17 <k4r4b3y> well below the miner fee threshold.
20:27:13 <BlueyHealer> What was said threshold?
20:27:52 <k4r4b3y> you can even make the case that the min economical unit is related to not only to the cost to send 1 output, BUT also to the remainder amount that gets sent to the receiver after the miner fee deducted.  For example, I have 1 btc but the miner fees are 0.8 btc all the time.  So I might be discouraged from meaningfully spending my 1 btc, even though it is a full 1 btc.
20:28:16 <BlueyHealer> My biggest payments are all sub-$20, so BTC would probably be noticeable. Also my best guess is that fees are the reason there is a minimum amount of donation to Internet Archive...
20:30:18 <m-relay> <n​ya:catmaid.moe> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/catmaid.moe/5DBUfc9DrrtTSTlpB63NCaklaEl4AhdU
20:30:31 <m-relay> <n​ya:catmaid.moe> Are them correctly selected this way?
20:30:39 <m-relay> <n​ya:catmaid.moe> I'm using cakewallet btw
20:46:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yea
21:48:21 <m-relay> <j​s:nil.im> Hm, I noticed this room has no icon. That makes it harder to find in the list of rooms.
21:54:59 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> We are icon neutral
21:57:17 <moneromooo> Kinda appropriate if you ask me.
21:57:27 <nioCat> words work for mr
21:57:32 <nioCat> *me
21:58:10 <nioCat> alphabetical 
22:04:44 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> A-Z
22:10:12 <m-relay> <j​s:nil.im> Why, when the other Monero rooms have one?
22:18:36 <moneromooo> I was joking fwiw, since monero is supposed to hide things. Easier to find would be good. People would ask for help here instead of -dev for starters.
22:22:46 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> i think thats a website issue. #monero-suppoort isnt listed
22:24:33 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> it has the default monero icon
22:24:54 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> other rooms have a unique icon
22:25:13 <m-relay> <j​s:nil.im> Weird, it doesn't have any icon for me
22:25:23 <m-relay> <j​s:nil.im> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/nil.im/mAQeOxwGyXGBytKGtOqQtwzq
22:43:22 <nioCat> this room name is...... monero
22:43:40 <nioCat> maybe they thought nothing else was needed
22:45:11 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> like "cher" ?
22:47:11 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> some reported same issue when using Element
22:48:43 <m-relay> <j​s:nil.im> I don't think it's client-related. There is no `m.room.avatar` set.
22:52:10 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> clear cache
23:16:55 <m-relay> <s​iren:kernal.eu> The room avatar actually disappeared for me after clearing cache
23:22:04 <m-relay> <j​s:nil.im> That will not help because the room state contains no `m.room.avatar`
23:24:21 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> element clear cache fixes everything 😁
23:25:37 <m-relay> <j​s:nil.im> Well, then do it and see for yourself 😛
23:26:36 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> on fractal