01:49:01 anyone here? 08:21:35 no. 08:28:40 I am only a fragment of your imagination 08:36:50 <3​21bob321:monero.social> I am 1 of 16 decoys 08:42:48 Imagine someone getting arrested because their transaction became a decoy connected to someone wanted lol. "We don't care it is a decoy, it happened from you". 08:44:29 How can I place an offer to buy XMR with fiat on haveno-reto, if I don't have XMR in the first place? 08:51:11 you have to have some monero (dont shoot the messenger) 08:52:09 how do I start without any monero? 08:52:54 you don't 08:53:00 you need some monero to use haveno 08:53:34 but yea once you have that initial 0.11 XMR you can buy more monero on haveno and you wont have that problem anymore 08:56:50 BTW looked at xmrbazaar you mentioned and there are no offers for fiat in my area... Kinda wish I could give one, but too fearful) 08:57:59 Take a risk for all of us 08:59:09 No, I am too young and too fearful. I am too horrified of a potential arrest. There are either brave or stupid people more suited for risks than me - fully aware and afraid of losing my best years or bringing financial ruin to my family... 08:59:26 <3​21bob321:monero.social> yolo 08:59:40 another way is to buy some crypto (like btc) wherever, and then just swap it for monero 09:00:06 i should write a tutorial on how to get your first monero 09:00:13 it's a recurrent problem people face 09:00:42 nihilist, true! 09:00:48 <3​21bob321:monero.social> 1. hack a windows computer 09:00:49 <3​21bob321:monero.social> 2. setup botnet 09:00:51 <3​21bob321:monero.social> 3. wait for moniez 09:00:57 I wish Haveno had a section of "my first XMR"! 09:02:12 321bob321, exactly! And thus I am not ruining my life or traumatizing myself. I know that mist likely everything is going to be fine. But in the dangerous overall situation in the country is still a bit of a risk. 09:03:56 This makes a serious chicken and egg problem 09:04:46 that chicken and egg problem got inherited from bisq 09:04:55 (since haveno is a fork of bisq) 09:05:14 Yeah, that was the point. 09:05:17 so what are my options for buying monero if I don't know anyone in person? CEX with KYC? 09:05:25 AFAIK Bisq tried to address it in some upgrade? 09:05:53 I avoid KYC due to fear of leaks, ew. I think it may be enough info there to get a microloan in my name... 09:06:21 <3​21bob321:monero.social> ltc to xmr 09:07:28 just remain aware of what using a CEX implies. potentially chainalysis is aware that you bought 20 euros worth of monero 09:07:46 but from there, nothing, they can't know that you plan to buy 500 bucks off of haveno 09:08:16 but from there, nothing, they can't know that you plan to buy 500 bucks worth of monero off of haveno 09:12:54 Yeah, and in case of a Monero crackdown, you are an easier target. Also if someone needs to nitpick on you, it can be an easy excuse. 09:13:09 (that but my main fear are leaks lol) 09:26:00 Eventualities aside, I dislike the process 09:43:49 if you need deniability, follow this tutorial of mine (disclaimer i need to rewrite it) https://blog.nowhere.moe/opsec/anonymity/index.html 09:44:14 but in short you need deniable encryption, into which you put a VM for all sensitive activities, which can include a monero wallet 09:45:02 that way you can literally give your pc to an adversary and he can't prove that your sensitive encrypted volume (containing a whonix VM, with your hidden monero wallet let's say) exists 09:46:34 if you need deniability (in case of a monero crackdown, like you've mentionned), follow this tutorial of mine (disclaimer i need to rewrite it) https://blog.nowhere.moe/opsec/anonymity/index.html 09:56:38 Lol, that is definitely something not for my threat model) 09:57:10 The fears are not THAT big. But I understand how they can be) 09:57:13 do you have access to a kyc cex? 09:58:28 note: buying crypto from an atm or single use service, like cake wallet, might be more expensive, but if youre selling on haveno, the street price is about the same. so youre not taking any real losses 09:59:08 aka, xmr is really trading at 195, not 170 10:05:24 ofrnxmr, me? 10:13:40 goddamn. i guess no one reads reddit. i still have 78 connections 10:17:10 oh well. see-ya..... 10:26:15 I have not "read" Reddit actively since they shadowbanned me, lol. 10:27:44 78 connections to what? The proxy? 10:28:04 Probably all chainalysis lol 10:42:22 No one reads anything anymore :P 10:48:26 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Tldr? 10:50:19 naw to my node 10:50:40 i don't know how to measure the number hitting node.moneroworld in total 10:51:40 welp, the dns record is dead. these either must be previous connections or people harvested the IP at some point 11:44:10 hello guys im developing a PoW tool by mining Monero 11:44:18 to prevent ddos attacks and abuse of my irc server 11:44:34 this way i both gain income to maintain my server and prevent ddos attacks 11:44:46 my question is i made the code but can i integrate this to irc?? 11:44:48 if so how? 11:44:54 my question is i made the tool but can i integrate this to irc?? 11:45:23 clients must mine specific amount of monero to join my irc server 11:45:59 how does one mine a specific amount of monero 11:46:32 Pool? P2pool? Or do you mean hashes 11:46:42 yeah it uses nanopool 11:46:47 Terrible 11:46:53 why 11:47:03 Because its the biggest pool 11:47:23 this is just a proof of concept 11:47:39 i mean can i integrate this abuse prevention system to irc 11:47:56 it also generates income to sustain the server 11:48:02 Youll want a PPS pool if you want consistent pay 11:48:44 PPLNS requires/benefits from consistent mining 11:49:30 If you just want hashes and potential full blocks (ideal), setup xmrig-proxy with a custom difficulty 11:49:50 i will fix the monero side, this is just a proof of concept 11:50:03 im asking is integrating this to irc as a plugin possible 11:50:05 And allow connections from ips that submit enough valid shares 11:50:11 if so how?? 11:50:22 There is https://repo.getmonero.org/selene/primo which is designed for such things. Currently only implememted for web servers. 11:50:33 primo works w/o rpcpay? 11:50:52 I do not understand the question. 11:51:12 doesnt primo require the rpc-pay feature? 11:51:30 It requires node RPC, if that's what you're saying. 11:51:38 I want an irc plugin that only allows access to server after specific amount of monero mining using a pool 11:51:46 nono, i mean the pay-for-rpc feature 11:52:04 It uses the same RPC, yes. 11:53:57 so is it possible to add an extension this way to irc guys? 11:54:21 Says it requires https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/5357 11:54:30 But 5357 was removed 11:55:15 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8724 11:55:29 Then maybe it doesn't work anymore. 11:55:54 That'd be a shame, it's the type of thing that was ahead of its time I think. 11:56:24 Thats what i was saying a month ago 11:56:47 Onion POW is nice, but monero POW for ddos is better 11:57:04 Idk why we removed it 11:57:08 Hmm, looks like it's still around in TF at least, and I merged the most recent monero release. 11:57:18 Hm 11:57:59 I think only the code that uses it in the wallet got removed, but the micropayment system is still there. 11:58:31 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8843#issuecomment-1548107986 11:58:36 Mooo :P ^ 11:59:00 Yeah. So true. 12:00:50 So, it should be feasible to hack the login plugin to use the primo system. It'd need a similar primo plugin to the web server one, but for the IRC server of choice. 12:01:02 We should revive primo asap 12:01:17 Then clients would be able to use the miner to mine to the IRC server, and would b eable to login once they mined enough. 18:06:55 What are your thoughts on this 18:06:57 https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html 18:12:22 off topic 18:12:59 #monero-offtopic:monero.social 18:28:57 can someone invite me to offtopic room, thx 18:29:46 done 18:34:25 what's the best way currently to get monero for cash? 18:40:02 https://haveno-reto.com/ 18:59:40 i think it requires monero to even make an initial trade, for a deposit or something, no? 19:02:56 Yes. 19:21:36 Question: does the --proxy monerod make *all* network connections for monerod go through the proxy, or only some/most? 19:21:55 I’m seeing some conflicting information 19:36:02 just some 19:36:31 doesnt effect rpc, tx proxy, anonymous-inbound 19:37:14 not sure about dns stuff like --enable-dns-blocklist or checkpoints 19:37:56 or --check-updates 19:38:39 P2P traffic from what I seen 21:50:41 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/hackliberty.org/ayDiycGNRXjbyMynfpRmaeiw