04:14:11 Pwnion 07:56:10 rooter ? 08:49:05 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/YZDAKVCRGbcMJhUMKxUADIqz 08:49:07 ????? 08:49:14 rotten are you retarded? 08:53:15 what topic were you replying to monerobull ? 08:55:02 Beautiful etiquette for a subreddit mod and "website workgroup" lead role. 08:55:03 its about a new centralized p2p exchange 08:55:12 yeah yeah stfu 08:55:26 you dont have the right to not get insulted the way you insult everyone else 08:55:41 dEBRUYNE plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org ^ 08:55:52 what? 08:56:40 👋 08:57:18 The difference between you and is that you are supposed to hold it in and behave according to your responsibilities, I do not. Or if I do, it would be on you to moderate my speech, but that would be as nonsensical as your recently behaviour and takes, since you are engaging in the dynamic. 08:57:21 morning plow 08:57:38 no not really, did i reply with the "mod" highlight? i didnt 08:57:44 im not even a mod in this room 08:57:48 Talking to you is like talking to a wall 100% of the time, so I'll let your European pseudo brain be at peace. 08:58:00 yeah yeah quit this bullshit argument 08:58:08 you are not fooling anyone 08:58:32 @ofrnxmr CoC fixes this ⬆️ 08:59:02 Yes, you did. In the subreddit. The very same screenshot you posted on here like a whining child. 08:59:13 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Funny 08:59:25 It is not even an argument. Go buy a new brain on ebay. 09:00:18 he's not in this room might be on IRC... 09:00:34 show me the "mod" in the screenshot 09:00:35 i know you cant do math but are you bling as well? 09:01:35 So since it is not in the screenshot you no longer moderate the subreddit. 09:01:42 Absolutely retarded. 09:01:57 Or magically you stop being a mod just for the sake of the argument... 09:02:06 Or should I say, discussion... 09:02:30 Because all this looks like to me is like some practice with an autistic person. Popular 09:02:46 bro there is a difference in replying as mod and as regular user, yeah 09:02:47 Because all this looks like to me is like some practice with an autistic person. 09:03:11 edits 09:03:22 Where is Doug? 09:03:36 yeah, you 09:03:37 losing 5k on a p2p trade on telegram ahhh mf 09:03:39 needmoney90 times were better than this utter piece of shit. 09:03:47 blah blah 09:03:59 Talk about ad hominems and low quality punches. 09:04:02 rottenwheel please fix "The difference between you and is " i think there is a mistake 09:04:12 Tasteless. 09:04:13 maybe even a comma missing 09:04:29 no this is a direct comment on your judgment skills 09:04:29 Submit a PR plowsof. 09:04:31 which turn out to be VERY poor 09:04:33 5k us dollars poor 09:04:37 🤣🤣🤣🤣 09:04:41 I'll do you a favor, cunt. 09:04:51 Join the ignore list. Bye. 09:04:56 i expect better of a journalist 09:04:59 notice how i dont just throw insults without context 09:05:06 hold your texts to a higher standard please 09:05:13 meanwhile this guy calls me "piece of shit", "cunt", etc 09:05:23 You??? 09:05:37 a COMMUNITY FUNDED journalist 09:05:37 Really talking about text quality??? 09:05:46 not very unbiased this man 09:05:47 Let me turn on the plow mode... 09:06:02 lol what quality, revuo is like 100 words a week max 09:06:11 lol what text quality, revuo is like 100 words a week max 09:06:57 Hi , everyone! It is " meeting' time... Today we won't even / go through all the agenca items or anything like that ! Instead the meeting logs will be all over ( and) I will abuse symbols 'deliberately' just 'because'. plowsof 09:07:15 what 09:07:18 And _that_ guy is claiming I missed a comma. 😂 09:07:43 I think the most annoying ones are the unnecessary commas and unnecessary parenthesis. 09:07:47 rotten massively lost this total non-argument and now is attacking plow? 09:07:58 lmao 09:08:12 rottenwheel The difference between "you and is" (lolol) that you are supposed to hold it in and behave according to your responsibilities, I do not. Or if I do, it would be on you to moderate my speech, but that would be as nonsensical as your recently behaviour and takes, since you are engaging in the dynamic. 09:08:29 i depend on you to moderate my speech so i can learn better grammar 09:08:32 yeah i am too not in favour of indulging in personal insults. 09:08:37 thanks rottenwheel 09:08:39 thanks mbll 09:08:55 thanks plsf 09:09:05 yeah i am too not in favour of indulging in personal insults. Makes the community very bad place 09:10:08 Lol. 09:10:30 is this the suspicious new p2p thing? Bit... 09:10:39 plowsof we don't blame you sweetie. It's all your ancestors who conquered half the world to just end up eating species and beans on toast... 09:10:56 Bitrica yeah. 09:11:53 What the German gent doesn't get is that a platform like LM and Haveno is that CEX-like experiences are 100% better and more bound to gain traction than an always-on Tor client. 09:12:23 Yes, technically speaking Haveno would be safer and yadda yadda, no, in terms of usability and adoption it won't win as-is. 09:12:37 He then conflates openmonero.co with bitrica... 09:12:58 the reddit thread for context https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1gftlel/new_p2p_exchange_just_dropped_trade_xmr_btc_with/ 09:13:25 in adoption it most certainly is 09:13:25 And for some reason he takes the technical comparison and concludes that I somehow I'm vouching for a scam and so on and so forth. 09:13:27 the site you are glazing had 1 offer at the time of reddit posting 09:13:29 Braindead as it can get. 09:13:34 haveno has 200 and 2300 XMR 09:14:32 in the screenshot bull only talks about the fees part. 09:14:41 but your pride or whatever already lost you 5k bcs you didnt want to use haveno and now you HAVE to talk down on it because otherwise youd have to admit that you were just being stupid 09:15:02 But anyways, I really lost any hope in trying to get ideas across, it's always a shitshow with him, leading to nonproductive dialogue, this one is just a sample. 09:15:14 uhu 09:15:15 Check the whole thread comments section. 09:15:42 can you give me old reddit link ? i don't have reddit , sorry 09:15:44 He says the difference between 1% and 0.6% is somehow 66%. Huge and massive! 😂😂😂 09:15:51 broooo 09:16:02 stop it, its embarrassing 09:16:08 At least Doug was witty, he is not even that. 09:16:12 are you really that dumb? 09:16:25 guys he has to be trolling right 09:16:27 Teddit is currently ded. You're out of luck. Hopefully temporarily. 09:16:45 yeah it come be significant if you are trading say $10000 09:17:03 Yeah, well, I'm not. 09:17:14 yeah a 0.4% increase may become significant if you are trading say $10000 09:17:36 I also wouldn't mind 0.4% more with all the benefits having a CEX solution brings, which is explained in one of the comments. 😊 09:17:57 I don't have to run a client all the time, there's no deposit hold... 09:18:18 its till p2p , same risks 09:18:33 No shit Sherlock. 09:18:42 god i cant wait to see you get rugged for a second time for refusing to use haveno 09:18:54 We're talking about usability and adoption. 09:18:55 also , you keep your whole balance with a custodian 09:19:03 adoption: 1 offer vs 200 09:19:09 in haveno funds get locked only when trade is started 09:19:15 Again, I am fine with those tradeoffs. 09:19:38 you were fine with the tradeoffs of p2p telegram trading and then you came crying for donations 09:22:33 people may better use Noones platform if they wanted a centralised solution 09:22:49 I wouldn't risk trading on Telegram, as it is effectively KYC... The fact that you did that could be retroactively used against you if somethung changes about Monero's legal status... 09:23:08 yeah, they have a buff ceo who posts slightly entertaining tweets from time to time 09:23:18 Noones? Never heard. 09:23:39 I meant a protocol that is at least easy to use anonymously enough. 09:23:44 Nobody is trading on Telegram. You are only getting notifications on telegram. Smh. 09:23:48 rotten had done a small trade with that seller eariler ,so he trusted him without escrow 09:23:58 Just so that you don't have compromate lying around conveniently. 09:24:12 That is a lie. 09:24:16 False. 09:24:30 you yourseld told me right ? 09:24:35 Getting notifications for what? 09:24:48 There was an escrow person, it just turned out being an impersonator. 09:25:02 ohh yeah i missed that part 09:25:14 BlueyHealer private messages and trade status changes on platform, just like LocalMonero used to be. 09:25:14 F 09:25:16 lesson learnt , never trust people on telegram 09:25:39 it takes time to even trust a centralised p2p website 09:25:45 That way you don't have to be logged in all the time and it is optional, not mandatory. 09:26:44 lmao rotten would rather trust some random guy on telegram for escrow than use haveno 09:26:47 kevino old reddits link https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1gftlel/new_p2p_exchange_just_dropped_trade_xmr_btc_with/ 09:26:49 wasnt even directly p2p 💀 09:27:48 doesn't even work on a vpn 🫠 09:28:38 woah there pardner 09:29:09 Reddit moment. 09:29:10 the message feels so insulting 09:29:40 with the fucking fedora wearing snoo guy 09:29:41 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/envs.net/8213b1edd3ca8f52be1d5818052dc074f1b92b061851919412630650880 09:29:43 The unfiltered rage this unleashes in me every time I see it 09:30:03 smug ass hurensohn that is 09:30:22 Now go use lemmy because it is much better but don't go to town, noooo! You'll get a similar screen if you access it through Tor browser!!! 09:30:36 workin on it 09:30:46 You'll bring it up to the sysadmin and he'll only say 'what do you want me to do?'😂 09:32:01 And the way they originally worded this message is such cringe. 09:32:23 rottenwheel, do all instances do that? 09:33:12 BlueyHealer no, fortunately there are competent sysadmins out there... 09:33:43 lemmy.cafe isn't behind CF and accessible via Tor. 09:34:32 But since Mr. Bull doesn't want to nuke CF for good, sometimes federation is also problematic with such instances, so I had to create yet another profile on lemmy.zip to be able to post on town. 09:34:40 it might have some federation issues thoug 09:35:02 Zip runs behind CF. It is town compliant. 09:36:00 old.reddit.com ? 09:37:55 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/envs.net/0cd37e8dcdc37ba9229ae894d073987bbb5a68b51851921520733978624 09:38:03 Same shit ;-; 09:39:38 All reddit frontends seems to be dead rn 09:41:10 tor might work 09:41:27 if you use their onion 09:43:24 Yup, the only way I’ve had luck accessing it anonymously is via Tor. Weird how they don’t block exit nodes but have a hardon for VPNs? Lmao 09:44:09 Teddit is the shit, when it works. 09:44:30 Couple working instances. Hopefully it'll get taken care of. Oh, it's actually redlib, not teddit... 11:31:34 tf are you talking about 11:31:39 redlib works great 11:31:44 skill issue on this one 11:36:29 It is so bizarre how Reddit is the only site I encountered that blocks my proxy... Yet works on Tor and even has an onion! 11:37:08 EXACTLY 11:38:15 For context, my proxy is not even a commercial proxy/vpn, just a VPS - so they ban datacenter IPs? That's the first time I see this! 11:40:15 they probably block reasons for other than you expect 11:40:31 they probably block for other reasons than you expect 11:40:39 (scraping for ai training) 12:30:52 Late to the party. Rotten cant do math? 0.6 * 1.66 = .... welcome to grade 6 12:32:56 >Failed to parse page JSON data: expected value at line 1 column 1 | /r/monero/hot.json?&raw_json=1 12:33:18 And CoC doesnt fix a damn thing 12:34:53 you don't need a CoC to kick/ban ppl who are well known to splatter insults any and every time they are wrong 12:35:35 clearly nothing happening 12:35:36 skill issue: https://redlib.ducks.party/r/monero 12:35:46 https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/conduct/ this is common sense 12:36:22 Don't need to "point to the rulebook/chalkboard" to enforce it 12:37:16 > Common sense is the most fairly distributed thing in the world, for each one thinks he is so well-endowed with it that even those who are hardest to satisfy in all other matters are not in the habit of desiring more of it than they already have. 12:37:17 Read more at https://www.brainyquote.com/topics/common-sense-quotes 12:37:19 > - Rene Descartes 12:37:37 site is cringe but I couldn't find it back 13:31:58 clipboard.png 13:32:25 this is perfectly working for me 13:32:36 tf 13:32:43 now working 13:32:46 mit or miss 13:32:54 hit or miss 13:33:20 becoming nitter 13:35:31 lmfao real 13:39:07 meanwhile the temp restriction for people joining this channel still seems to be in effect 13:39:37 weeks ago diego stated that invite needed was going to be removed 13:41:07 not sure of other channels but today a couple people mentioned not being able to join this channel 13:44:33 nioCat someone spammed a channel recently and invite has been reactived. fwiw even with or without invite-only enabled some people are still unable to join a channel because synapse is a shit software. They are in a room and not in it at the same time. very convenient 14:00:45 s​yntheticbird thx for the update. 14:00:52 I guess synapse is a matrix issue? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 14:01:05 python software 14:01:31 used for matrix? 14:01:37 there are many other implementations out there, but synapse is most mature and ~stable~ 14:02:15 https://github.com/element-hq/synapse 14:03:29 there's conduit and conduwuit 14:03:37 in Rust of course 14:05:33 As the good programmers that they are (SARCASM) matrix.org want to go over dendrite written in Go. They are a failure and will stay as such. Meanwhile conduit.rs do not support all the feature yet but from what I heard it is lightning fast and stable. I can't take conduwuit seriously when your url is puppyirl.gay. That just reinforce me in the opinion that the online furry/trans c 14:05:35 ommunities are the shame of the lgbt movement. 14:09:39 to be precise the online+dev not just online tho everyone know the interesction on a venn diagramm is taking 90% of both set 14:10:05 of the first set* 14:16:24 Iirc there is also an ANSI C written matrix server but its in very alpha and bro lacks dev force. 14:18:37 you will use Electron Element, Python Synapse and be happy 14:24:57 what i read: *you'll enable le user namespace backdoor and use muh garbage collector with 99% bloat and be happy* 15:29:49 Yes, it does. 15:30:25 How can it be skill issue if I am not the one hosting such instances? lol. 15:30:44 this was a joke 15:30:47 Does this guy ever have any sliver of self-awareness? 15:30:55 He forgets he got nuked for weeks for being a heckler lol. 15:31:14 Now he plays the pseudo mod card and acts like a wussy calling 'offtopic' out, hysterical. 15:31:53 Love that domain. I use their invidious and perhaps connect to their remote node every now and then. :D 15:32:07 didn't know they had a node? 15:32:17 I haven't check the main website tbh 15:32:23 Same as I didn't know they had a redlib instance? 15:32:34 One hand washes the other, routepourrriiete. 15:32:36 Purrr. 15:32:55 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/rxeeiiZLXxViRHCnkaGyufFU 15:33:46 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/envs.net/e72ae921dd9f1d03945dae8247ae461ceadc8be51852011081266888704 15:34:20 THATS FIRE: https://moneromusic.ducks.party/ 15:34:25 You can listen to the the blockchain 15:35:31 Thats so cool what the hell? 15:36:41 Jammin to that shit like 15:37:38 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/envs.net/625884171ef8deb32c44bcc1eec5eccdb641c1c91852012052495728640 15:56:15 rottenwheel: https://github.com/redlib-org/redlib/issues/301#issuecomment-2450151289 15:56:26 bro just woke up 16:35:15 S3 Price Comparison 16:35:17 https://ducks.party/s3/ 16:35:21 neat website 16:35:35 homepage 🦆 16:38:58 🦆👉👈 17:39:13 mea culpa rando : conduwuit is actually stable and usable (tho I still can't take it seriously). So I guess 2024 matrix ecosystem boil down to: 17:39:13 - Use le synapse broken python software, super slow and buggy, no one understand it and it uses terabytes of ram 17:39:15 - Use le rust written furry/trans approved software, with first class citizen support for le internationally known to be reliable systemd. Also on a feature freeze. 17:39:17 Interesting ecosystem, IRC is really the unkillable boomer tech and I can understand why. 21:18:29 so, where do europeans buy xmr now? 21:22:45 haveno is apparently good now 21:22:48 for europeans 21:28:03 hyrkvljer: You could try Bitfinex I suppose 21:35:35 It's still worth mining Moreno? 21:35:35 Yes 21:36:37 with a rtx 3060 ti ? 21:36:49 x5 21:42:14 for financial worthiness, it all depends on your electricity and hardware costs, but the thrill of contributing to the network is very well worth it. 21:42:52 great thanks man 21:43:15 1000012447.png 21:43:16 Can't beat the feeling of seeing things like 21:45:54 what is that 21:49:23 you mean gettin more CPU/alu is better? 22:01:58 dEBRUYNE: I'll check it out. Thanks. How come they may sell and Kraken not? Kraken lost a lot of cred in my eyes now that they lick EU politician ass 22:10:14 i could be wrong but it looks like -2000% profit 22:11:34 it's the effort before finding a share, sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't, that's what makes mining worth it 22:14:45 plus you're helping secure the monero network 22:27:46 What law exactly prevents exchanges from listing Monero ? Does someone know ? 22:28:03 Depends on jurisdiction 22:28:04 Lol 22:28:15 In Europe 22:28:25 There are laws against monero exchanges?? 22:28:30 Not specifically Monero 22:28:37 ah 22:28:44 I suggest that you read the legislation. Start with 'EU AML/KYC' 22:29:01 I'm only familiar with US, 22:29:29 I thought that as long as they kyc, everything is fine. What's wrong specifically with Monero 22:29:51 I don't know,sorry 22:38:14 AFAIK it's the neverending push against privacy that pervades pretty much all governments. Monero offers it and is large enough to get noticed. It gets pushed. 22:39:11 Nothing specific to monero. Just good at it and large enough for "it'd be a shame if your exchange were to be audited for totally unrelated reasons" pressure to be applied. 22:40:17 Or, it a crime is committed, you can plausibly say "but you were an accessory, you could have spied even more on your customers and you did not go as far as you could have done". 22:41:01 It's always easy to say "lick EU politician ass" until you're the one that gets thrown in jail. 22:41:45 Now it's not as bad as going to jail, kraken people are in the US AFAIK but it's a matter of degree really. 22:43:01 I sometimes wonder if a secondary goal is to push honest people who like privacy towards less above board services so we get scammed more often. Maybe too cynical. 22:45:52 MiCA states (art 76-3) that transaction history and token holders must be identifiable for anonymity enhancing coins 23:00:01 Are you sure it's 76-3? I didn't find that 23:01:05 Scope of the rules on market abuse 23:01:05 That's article 76 in my pdf and there is no 3 23:02:30 Monero is a Swiss bank account in your pocket. Who cares about these KYC laws 23:02:56 You must open up your mind and think for yourself 23:04:42 xmrmavrick you aren't the same guy as monero maverick on X, are you? 🤔 23:06:08 I have no idea who that is 23:06:37 I figured. Cool. 23:07:51 I only use Matrix, SimpleX, and Lemmy 23:08:10 simple men 23:11:41 - IRS bounty 23:11:41 - De listed off of every exchange 23:11:43 - Price suppression 23:11:45 - Swept the dark web 23:11:47 - Accounts taken down, posts deleted 23:11:49 Yes we are at war, this is the people vs the international banking cartel. THERE are many resources where you can find out what is happening. CRYPTOCURRENCY WAS NEVER MEANT TO COMPLY 23:28:39 of course exchanges lick politicians' asses because the only thing they care about is snatching more money - portraying them as victims is ridiculous 23:29:38 We're not at war. There is not even a "we". Crypto is for everyone, even for your enemies. Everybody can benefit from Monero 23:29:39 "who cares about these laws" - > if the laws harm the People, we should stand against them and criticize, not just avoid them. Who remains silent agrees 23:33:46 anyone thinking monero is at war with le absolutely bad and tyrannic gov is delusional 23:34:17 principles and ideologies are good 23:34:26 if monero has any value at all it is in checking the power of government 23:34:32 as long as they are something you aim for, not something you imagine living into 23:34:40 and of course government is by definition a tyrannical criminal org 23:35:20 so the govt is obviously the enemy, obviously at war with people, and exchanges are arms of the government. 23:36:17 syntheticbird imaging trying to deny the obvious nature of governemnt and calling people who understand the ABC 'delusional' - oh wait, that's you did. Fucking hilarious. 23:37:04 as2333 yeah ig you're right. Wishing you good crusade Mr.Enlightened. 23:37:38 keep up the CIA vomits syntheticbird - you need a bit more practice. 23:38:24 wow so brave. you must be so appreciable irl 23:38:45 at least I'm not a government psycho 'in real life' 23:39:06 im a gov psycho... 23:39:31 Are you from Germany? 23:40:29 so you're the one here telling that a community of just a thousand volunteer is at war against governements that represent a tyranical organization and that the one pointing you that this is lil too biased is a gov psycho. Mhm yeah, you're not delusional 23:40:50 no why this question? 23:41:33 Monero is a peaceful revolution 23:41:57 indeed I prefer this point of view 23:42:05 speaking of delusions...where's the revolution exactly? 23:42:51 Germans have become cucks. All the Germans I know in Monero fall for propaganda and bow to their bankster masters 23:43:01 shocking 23:43:38 almost racism but ok ig 23:43:38 I mean how could that possibly happen in a shithole under US occupation and run by the CIA... 23:43:53 The whole point of Monero is to replace the current financial system. You won’t have to cash out Monero In a few years. This is the revolution 23:44:37 that would be revolutionary - but that's a possibility in the future 23:45:10 How do the germans you know react to monero's delisting in Europe ? 23:45:53 Going from *Making a delightful strawberry jam* to *We're going to revolutionize breakfast in the entire world* is inventing yourself a life imo 23:46:10 "it's a good thing cause it's orders from the govt - the govt is good and if you don't obey you are 'delusional'" 23:46:39 as2333 mhm yeah thats 100% what I said. good job at translating 23:47:05 They switched to Bitcoin or quit Monero altogether but those of us who are willing to carry the torch and lead the way will have many more that follow. 23:47:41 dont be delusional mavrick and obey your leaders 23:47:57 So you're german? 23:48:15 as2333 aripiprazole now 23:49:04 🇺🇸 23:49:17 WE WILL WIN 23:49:37 you need more 'allies' lie the plastic bird mavrick! 23:49:46 like* 23:50:00 who will win? monero? the US? the germans? everyone? 23:50:18 Monero 23:50:22 as2333: the plastic bird. I like that name thx 23:51:38 I love this community and want to help blow it up like it deserves 23:51:46 A currency must be private. Without financial privacy we’re all slaves