03:29:15 hello 03:29:43 HI 03:29:55 hello ofrnxmr 03:30:08 Hello BillyZ 03:30:18 i am looking to start taking privacy in my life more seriously 03:30:41 i am looking to make purchases using monero 03:30:48 are you the billy zane? 03:30:53 i am very inexperienced with crypto, i have never used a crypto wallet before 03:31:01 umask777, haha. naa, just a fan 03:31:03 Sounds great. Do you have Monero? 03:31:13 Oh, so you don't have Monero 03:31:32 ofrnxmr, i don't have monero, i am trying to learn a lot, and i am taking advice from people 03:31:39 Are you a windows, mac or linux user? Or mobile? 03:31:58 i am on getmonero.org , and i just wanted to confirm that this website is not a phishing website 03:32:14 That is the right website 03:32:21 ok thank you. i use linux 03:32:41 as i understand, my first step is to get a wallet, and to confirm the signature witha GPG key 03:32:50 If you want an easy to use wallet for Linux, id recommend Feather 03:33:12 You can find a link to feather on the downloads page of getmonero.org 03:33:25 i see, thank you, i will get feather then 03:33:35 i have a few questions regarding monero 03:33:51 as i understand it, you can buy XRP from an exchange, and then transfer the XRP to a private wallet 03:33:59 The Monero GUI wallet is also good, but a bit heavier and in some respects harder to use 03:34:01 is this the only way to purchase monero 03:34:27 i would probably be more comfortable with a GUI wallet to begin with tbh, although a CLI should be fine too 03:34:42 Stack Wallet and Cake Wallet also have Linux wallets, but i'd stick with feather, as youre new and feather is probably the most stable 03:35:04 to put it bluntly, how do i purchase monero anonymously 03:35:10 Feather is a GUI wallet. But there is a wallet called "Monero GUI" 03:35:30 i see. no feather should do fine, something easy to use is a good starting point for me 03:35:54 Purchasing anonymously is difficult 03:36:32 Its the same as purchasing anythinf else anonymously. Need an anonymous payment or delivery method 03:36:38 Feather should replace monerogui 03:36:58 So if you use cash, you need to mail it, or need to do a face-to-face trade 03:37:09 so a monero transaction only costs 2 cents? 03:37:28 Less 03:37:33 wow that's awesome 03:37:58 about 1/2 a cent 03:38:12 that's very reasonable. i was thinking it would be in the dollar range 03:38:51 i am also looking to make online purchases anonymously 03:38:58 Maybe at 35k+usd/xmr 03:39:21 soon™️ 03:39:21 ahh i see, so larger quantities use more 03:39:24 Its the same as purchasing anythinf else anonymously. Need an anonymous payment or delivery method 03:39:35 billy zane i'll give you 1XMR for Sherilyn Fenn's phone number 03:39:44 lool umask777 03:39:58 she's such a babe 03:40:02 Billy, i mean, the price of 1 xmr at 35kusd woukd be ~1usd/tx 03:40:37 umask777 you weren't kidding! 03:41:14 you had a recurring role as her love interest in the second season of Twin Peaks so i hope you kept in contact 03:41:38 i hope i did too 03:42:03 though she was also a teenager and you were in your twenties so p sure that's illegal and i'm currently tweeting about it 03:42:16 haha 03:42:51 twitter says you're canceled, i'm sorry 03:43:04 it's alright, i'll manage 03:43:30 good man 03:43:54 ofrnxmr, i want to make specific purchases online related to online anonymity, for example, a VPN, and a cellular phone service 03:44:28 ofrnxmr, i realize that i could give someone cash and have them send me monero 03:45:04 i also want to purchase things online, like a new cellphone 03:45:12 for me this is a learning process 03:45:20 you should check monerica.com which is a directory of businesses that accept XMR 03:45:37 ahhh i see, thank you! 03:45:53 this is really beautiful what you guys are doing here btw 03:46:02 there's also xmrbazaar.com 03:46:06 xmrbazaar.com for a craigslist-like xmr based website 03:46:16 ohh interesting 03:46:38 i suspect you'll have trouble finding cell phone service paid in XMR but it may be out there, if you find someone selling it you should share here or on the above sites 03:46:48 there are several VPN providers though 03:46:50 Kycnot.me 03:46:56 Silent.link 03:46:59 others 03:47:04 umask777, i was recommended silent.link 03:47:08 oh interesting 03:47:17 never heard of it but i'll take a look 03:47:37 umask777, i am not a computer or network security specialist 03:47:43 so i have to be very careful about how i go about doing this 03:48:02 i am reading guides and getting advice from knowledgeable people. i take notes along the way 03:48:06 i build up a plan 03:48:14 coinsbee 03:48:23 coinsbee.com 03:48:49 thank you coinsbee 03:48:54 it have a bigger cut than bitrefill but they do accept the monero 03:48:54 err sorry 03:48:57 ravfx, thank you 03:49:27 ivpn accepts xmr 03:49:38 give me a sec guys, i have to write writing down all of this, i always take notes when i'm flooded with advice 03:52:09 ok i am caught up 03:52:19 so i guess this is a little bit outside the scope of this channel 03:52:36 but my big problem is buying monero anonymously (if possible) 03:52:44 and having items delivered to me anonymously 03:52:56 for the second part, i was thinking i could have packages delivered to a friend 03:53:09 which is not ideal since i'd have to depend on them every time, and second, this person is linked to me 03:54:28 for me this is more of a matter of principal and also a matter of having a useful skill 03:54:50 Buying anything anonymously is hard. If you want to buy xmr anonymously, you need an anonymous way to pay 03:55:29 cash? 03:55:55 how are you delivering the cash anonymously? 03:56:02 yep 03:56:07 or get paid in XMR 03:56:08 parking lot 03:56:20 or something like that 03:56:27 getting someone else to go to the meet location? Mailing w/o return address? Deposit directly to someones bank / atm? 03:56:54 deposing in random people bank account from random convenient store... 03:56:54 kyc porn is on the seller side (he is the one with the bank account). Not my problem 03:57:03 So you dont care if the seller see's your face etc? (So full anonymity not required) 03:57:19 well, in theory i could mail it with a fake address right? or no return address 03:57:50 oh that's a good point ofrnxmr, but no i would not care tbh, unless i felt it was a sting or something, but i don't think this is illegal is it 03:58:28 yeah, that also work. 03:58:30 Assuming the mail system in your country work (in mine it have to be tracked mail else it automaticaly vanish in postman pocket) 03:58:42 it would be nice if there were monero ATM machines that accept cash and send to a given address 03:59:30 There's a monero atm project, but thats more of an automated market maker 03:59:35 or it might be possible to buy bitcoin from a bitcoin ATM and swap with monero 04:01:06 You can buy xmr from some atms 04:05:26 it looks like there is a bitcoin ATM but it is kyc 04:06:00 tbh i do not think monero ATM would be legal 04:06:05 Usually / sometimes only kyc > 1000$ 04:06:12 i think for a long time XMR was challenged wasn't it? 04:06:20 Ive seen plenty of monero atms 04:06:30 A lot of the "btc" atms are btc/ltc/xmr 04:06:41 and they do not require ID? 04:08:03 i just realized something 04:08:10 maybe i should just get paid in XRP 04:22:45 Lololol wut 04:25:10 Xrp is a joke/scam/trash 04:27:42 or sorry, XMR right 04:36:18 ripple is the one true cryptocurrency, that's what IBM told me 04:37:29 IBM invented the PC and where too dump to protect it so yeah, could be true 04:38:02 But in the same time lets praise IBM for the open platform we enjoy since four decades 05:13:10 brb 05:55:15 When it comes to online ordering, I usually just order to the store's physical office and pay in cash upon reception. 05:55:37 Also you're lucky to have ATMs, the only Bitcoin ATMs we have here are fully KYC :( 07:53:23 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/LjmYxvihduInzEmMbVbVNCrX 08:09:06 mission failed 18:50:32 what’s this new haveno update, it disabled trades until i update, but haveno-reto repo has no update lol 18:51:32 👀 18:51:40 Lol 18:51:48 someone help me 18:52:19 there is a haneno channel 18:52:28 also haveno 18:52:36 i know but it’s dead 18:52:42 this is more active 18:53:28 it's active, that's where the drama was earlier today :D 18:53:54 okay, i’ll go check 18:54:34 https://github.com/nahuhh/haveno/actions/runs/11800590328 18:54:42 🫂 18:55:18 that’s the update? 18:55:22 Reto builds, if u trust me (i made no changes, just rebased to latest) 18:55:36 Yes, but not released by reto 18:55:56 okay, thank you! 18:56:18 ofrn should start his own liq pool for haveno 18:56:30 Reto is waiting to add /change an arbitrator before pushing their update 18:56:51 I should just start a network 18:57:00 ofrncoin 18:57:25 "ofrnxmr - by anon" 18:58:31 "join or die" should've been the haveno liquidity motto from day 0 18:58:35 call the network morono 18:58:57 or maybe moreno 18:58:58 nioCat: more like ohnono 18:59:21 Oreno 18:59:32 moeno 18:59:41 the possibilities are endless 18:59:45 we need a poll 18:59:52 and a drama 18:59:59 ofc 19:00:08 I need to "call out" "bad behavior" 19:00:23 moreofrn 19:00:35 keepofrnxmr 19:00:42 pampeeet 19:00:53 moreofrn, is that even possible lol 19:01:17 i should try 19:01:58 yes try and pump it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 19:25:12 no pamp only pain 19:28:49 Anyone have instructions for accessing a V1 wallet via the gui wallet? 19:30:56 V1 meaning an old monero wallet? 19:31:03 yeah 19:31:18 Restore from keys 19:32:29 What do you have, a wallet file, seed, keys? 19:33:11 I have the word set to unlock the wallet 19:33:18 but it doesn't work in the current GUI version 19:33:30 try cli 19:35:32 `./monero-wallet-cli --restore-from-seed` 19:40:56 i enter it, then it prompts for seed continued: 19:42:10 if I pass it in via the electrum-seed option, it fails because it's not 25 19:50:10 ok think I found a different way to get the info 19:53:56 ok got it, had to use the github XMR address generator 19:54:48 a V1 wallet with pre ring ct outputs? 19:55:06 whatever the 13 word ones were 19:56:07 bro's gonna open his wallet and discover 6 million dollars 19:56:35 🗿 19:59:02 did monreo ever have 13 word seeds or is this mymonero 20:00:27 maybe this is mymonero seed 20:00:27 mymonero 20:00:35 mymonero 20:00:48 Did you try to restore in mymonero 20:01:04 They still use 13 word 20:01:08 I've got it restoring now into the GUI 20:01:45 did you use moneroexamples or detherminals script 20:02:13 https://github.com/luigi1111/xmr.llcoins.net/ 20:02:51 6 million I wish... 20:03:29 I don't wish. I have them and actively use them to hurt monero project 20:03:34 based 20:03:40 oh, so simple, if luigi1111 is still around after all those years i think he would appreciate someone still using it to this day! 20:03:55 the certs are even still working, wow 20:05:36 wow 20:05:39 although I do wish I'd bought more when it was $5/coin 20:06:08 what the ^^^^ 20:06:27 whew lad 20:06:54 JoBbZ: sir 20:08:27 Was $5 in like 2018 20:08:40 Like $30 in 2020 20:09:26 (pulling numbers out of my ..) 21:25:31 Um lemme see 21:26:43 2016 22:39:25 50 cents ? 23:39:26 get poor or die tryin 23:49:36 I will take unwanted XMR, it's a dead currency anyway just offload it on me and I'll dispose of them for you