08:10:23 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/what-are-the-best-and-still-active-anonymous-wallets-for-cryptocurrencies-in-2024/22830/6 08:10:23 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> >has anyone tried the new Cupcake companion app for/by Cake Wallet? Cupcake | Cake Wallet Guides, they don’t list it on the site but it is also available for download on Accrescent. 08:10:39 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> Cupcake is an air-gapped wallet using live QR codes. 09:28:03 <m-relay> <plant-boy:matrix.org> Hi I have been seeing some headlines about FCMPs lately, and it seems pretty exciting. What I cant really figure out is if it is definitely decided to go forward with FCMP++? or is it just a proposal? And if it is decided upon, is there any kind of (rough) timeline on when we will get it into Monero? 09:33:14 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/fcmp++-research.html 09:33:42 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> eta maybe test end of month 09:36:02 <m-relay> <plant-boy:matrix.org> I saw that site, but I cant really figure out what it means. Seems like none of the milestones have been met. So does this mean it is pretty far off by now? 09:37:36 <m-relay> <plowsof:matrix.org> check the gitlab comments for updates plant-boy https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/449 09:39:26 <m-relay> <plant-boy:matrix.org> Thanks I will check that out. 10:49:21 <m-relay> <f:monero.social> Practically, X doesn't need a node as it's in Y's interest to ensure the payment is received. 10:49:21 <m-relay> <f:monero.social> They will check for the incoming transaction on the network before letting X leave with the merchandise. 10:49:23 <m-relay> <f:monero.social> The UI can be kept very simple - effectively we only need to show a checkmark, just as we are used to from PoS devices for credit card payments: 10:49:25 <m-relay> <f:monero.social> `Requesting payment ...` > `Adding signature ...` > `Submitting to network ...` [longer wait here - as with VISA&co] > `Payment confirmed!` 10:52:57 <m-relay> <f:monero.social> I am preparing a document to explain the concept in detail and give an outlook on how things will progress once the basic framework is implemented. 10:53:40 <rbrunner> Always stay vigilant, people: https://socket.dev/blog/supply-chain-attack-solana-web3-js-library 15:06:27 <aljustiet> Where can I buy monero? 15:06:33 <aljustiet> For fiat 15:06:35 <aljustiet> from DEM 15:06:38 <aljustiet> DEX* 15:07:28 <aljustiet> My currency is not listed on the merchants page of getmonero.org 15:08:43 <aljustiet> If I wanted to buy from the CEX, it doesn't have my currency too 15:09:04 <aljustiet> I only have an option to buy LTC from Binance e.g., and swap it to monero with high comission. 15:09:28 <moneromooo> Haveno is a dex that works now AIUI. Try checking it out ? I believe haveno-reto is the main instanciation of it. 15:11:55 <m-relay> <themisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> If you can buy LTC, you can sell it on Mexc and buy XMR. 15:12:19 <m-relay> <themisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> No need to pay high commission. 15:12:55 <m-relay> <themisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> You should also be able to swap LTC for XMR on Haveno. 15:15:26 <aljustiet> Okay 17:02:14 <zzz123> narf: narfz0g? 19:40:42 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> I assume thats a fake woodser 19:55:42 <m-relay> <jeffro256:monero.social> Haveno-reto apparently rebranded to RetoSwap https://monero.observer/haveno-reto-completes-retoswap-rebrand-new-website-launch/ 19:55:58 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Yeah 19:56:07 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> 50 years ago 19:56:24 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> yup they even have a delightful website with a photoshopped Haveno UI that I wished existed 19:59:46 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> they fixed all the errors we mention in #haveno:monero.social 19:59:57 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> mentioned* 20:01:20 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> except the UI image that your are fantasizing, contains typos 20:08:01 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> but still disgusting they don't mention that the software they run is Haveno on their website, and "their" client UI marketing is misleading (doesn't look like that). Basically, they are acting as if they are a whole new exchange platform that they built themselves. 20:08:12 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> from ground up 20:08:39 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> Very true 20:08:46 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> wrong answer 20:09:01 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> wrong reply 20:09:29 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> https://haveno-aloha.com/ nav links 404 lol 20:10:03 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> haveno networks are on some other level of incompetence 20:12:13 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> They tweeted about haveno 20:15:19 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Please keep in one room! 20:16:54 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> haveno room ? (🤣🤣) 20:17:38 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Community sir 20:17:51 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> No decentralizing drama 20:18:39 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> OFFTOPIC 20:18:43 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Ok, i'm going to reddit r/cryptocurrency 22:50:37 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> Yo 22:54:09 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> I have a question regarding exchanging monero with USDT. 22:54:09 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> I'm not a Cryptocurrency pro or something like that but basically I just want to exchange some monero that I have into USDT with the lowest fee possible. I think the Polygon network has a pretty small fee but I'm not 100% sure what is the address I should use to receive the USDT. Im currently using Metamask and I added the Polygon network to it and the USDT token. In this case, wh<clipped message> 22:54:11 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> at would be the USDT address then? The one that is here or what? 22:54:13 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/nadeko.net/mviEogJiuULdSbfvWQIIJCay 22:54:38 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> It seems weird to me that the address is exactly the same for all tokens and networks. That is how it works or what? 22:58:14 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> iirc, eth and polygon are account based 22:58:26 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> so I wouldn't be surprised if you have one address for all your token 22:58:46 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> So using that address should work right? 22:58:50 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> yes 22:58:55 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> I see 22:59:21 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> The terminology in metamask also checks out 23:00:19 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> Let's hope I don't lose the money lol 23:00:39 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> make a small test beforehand to be sure 23:01:23 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> Yeah I'm exchanging the minimum amount 23:09:41 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> yeah it worked 23:09:42 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> lol 23:09:49 <m-relay> <fijxu:nadeko.net> cool shit