00:16:27 <BillyZane> mx_mandelbrot42, thank you sir. yes i will look in to doing all of the following. though i am probably going to just experiment with gupax for now as i already have it installed
00:17:00 <BillyZane> mx_mandelbrot42, i am still synchronizing atm, so it will take me some time to get started, but i am excited
00:20:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Gupax should have remote nodes in it
00:27:05 <BillyZane> it does, but i'm trying to use the local one (once it is ready)
02:21:28 <remiliascarlet> bensharara: "What are ban lists?" Usually another way of saying "blacklist" because a few deranged lunatics back in 2020 decided that the word is "racist".
02:26:44 <BillyZane> synchronizing monero is taking a very long time.. should i just download the block?
02:40:48 <m-relay> <k​law:matrix.org> That happened to me as well. I just gave up after 15 days when it said the same amount of time remaining
02:41:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ssd ~24hrs
02:41:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Hdd ~weeks
03:28:29 <m-relay> <q​uickex:matrix.org> we start to work on fixed rates tho, so wanted to know is it preferable option for monero community
04:17:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Definitely useful for paying bills
06:29:43 <cyb3rh3x> hey everyone c: was wondering if it's possible to compile the monero-wallet-cli with as little dependencies as possible?
06:38:58 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Run `make -j${nproc} release-static` do use static linking
06:40:30 <cyb3rh3x> @jeffro256 that'll compile just the CLI version of monero wallet? 
06:41:13 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Oh sorry, I thought you meant that you wanted to compile `monero-wallet-cli` with minimal dynamic dependencies
06:41:29 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> You just don't want to compile all the other stuff in the repo?
06:42:21 <cyb3rh3x> yes c: I basically want the bare minimum necessary to get a wallet setup, CLI only
06:43:25 <cyb3rh3x> was browsing through the github page and noticed dependencies like boost and wasn't sure if that's needed
06:47:38 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Sorry, there's not really an easy way to do that. Anyways, the wallet is the thing with most of the dependencies anyways (except maybe UPnP). IN the README, there's a column labeled "Optional", and any row with a "NO" is a required dependency
06:48:35 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> The boost dependency is definitely required, it's used everywhere in the code
06:50:07 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Technically, you don't need `libboost-all-dev`, you can install just the boost modules you need, but it's quite a few
06:52:35 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> We use Boost's chrono, date-time, filesystem, locale, program-options, regex, serialization, system, & thread
06:57:06 <cyb3rh3x> just for clarification, the modules you listed are the ones I can install separately? or are they the only modules used within libboost-dev? Thank you for the help btw!
07:00:18 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Yes, your package manager should let you install those seperately
07:01:00 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> For example, in the README, the Debian/Ubuntu install one-liner is: `sudo apt update && sudo apt install build-essential cmake pkg-config libssl-dev libzmq3-dev libunbound-dev libsodium-dev libunwind8-dev liblzma-dev libreadline6-dev libexpat1-dev libpgm-dev qttools5-dev-tools libhidapi-dev libusb-1.0-0-dev libprotobuf-dev protobuf-compiler libudev-dev libboost-chrono-dev libboost<clipped message>
07:01:01 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> -date-time-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-locale-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-regex-dev libboost-serialization-dev libboost-system-dev libboost-thread-dev python3 ccache doxygen graphviz`
07:01:38 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Instead of installing `libboost-all-dev`, which is pretty huge, you can install just `libboost-chrono-dev libboost-date-time-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-locale-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-regex-dev libboost-serialization-dev libboost-system-dev libboost-thread-dev`
07:06:32 <cyb3rh3x> fantastic, thank you! i'll get around to putting this together soon enough :D
08:45:44 <m-relay> <f​:monero.social> Are these Gitlab pipeline-/job-errors of any relevance to my CCS MR?
08:45:45 <m-relay> <f​:monero.social> https://repo.getmonero.org/fullmetalScience/ccs-proposals/-/pipelines
09:46:42 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> [@f:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/@f:monero.social) I think you could try adding a blank line at the end of your proposal description, like [here](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/524/diffs?commit_id=7b7a9dbefa7035dc64a1b86b231bb9828bfe791b#2503f1ea768a2d58f77949de904a55750c9d9a47_0_56).
09:49:11 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Line [299](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/525/diffs?commit_id=f7519c0915a9e5a8465b3d428affddfaa4e1ecde&file=dfd9b5da054cffafc65021c259e1d6b03330815f#dfd9b5da054cffafc65021c259e1d6b03330815f_0_298), blank line.
11:56:15 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> dont worry about it for now
13:22:23 <m-relay> <f​:monero.social> Adding the newline seems to have been without effect.
13:22:23 <m-relay> <f​:monero.social> What's the job's intent?
13:48:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Dont listen to rotten
13:48:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://repo.getmonero.org/fullmetalScience/ccs-proposals/-/jobs/1643
13:49:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Looks like the runners are broken. (Listen to plowsof)
15:12:01 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> its just a pre-parser that checks formatting and other quirks of needing to display on the idea/funding pages. it runs on an external machine, which only i can run arbitrary code on because some people are mean :( workflow is green
15:14:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/pipelines/739
15:14:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/jobs/1644
15:23:09 <m-relay> <f​:monero.social> Thank you!
19:25:19 <m-relay> <d​aknig:matrix.org> hey, what decentralized exchanges are recommended? what about bridges? recently I feel like the internet is dead, cant find good info anywhere, everything is crap generated by AI
19:42:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Haveno, basicswap
19:49:56 <rbrunner> Well, there are not that many true DEXs right now in the first place :)
19:53:19 <Moidelyn> i feel like monero dexes are just buzzwords with zero actual trading volume
19:55:56 <rbrunner> Trading volume on Haveno and BasicSwap is certainly still quite modest, but not stand at "actually zero real trading"
19:57:04 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> I've used it before for non-trivial amounts. Works quite level
20:53:53 <m-relay> <f​ijxu:nadeko.net> I use trocador.app
20:54:33 <m-relay> <f​ijxu:nadeko.net> It's a bit harder if you want to get your money into FIAT but you can just use a stable coin like USDT or USDC
21:03:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats now a dex
21:03:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not*
21:03:38 <m-relay> <f​ijxu:nadeko.net> you are right
21:19:22 <m-relay> <d​aknig:matrix.org> but not pancakeswap?
21:33:54 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Right
21:34:17 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Pancake has nothing 2 do with xmr
21:39:48 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Can i eat it ?
21:59:29 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Can I kick it?
22:01:19 <m-relay> <i​ntr:envs.net> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/envs.net/5fc1aae41a86bb07b0fc9ef24033d690e6c673c41867328890737786880
22:01:21 <m-relay> <i​ntr:envs.net> what's this about?
22:36:04 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> It shows in ideas though. :D https://ccs.getmonero.org/ideas/
22:37:33 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> 'Da' Crypto Vigilante with Rafael LaVerrrde and Jeff Berrrwick!
22:37:54 <m-relay> <i​ntr:envs.net> I see
22:37:55 <m-relay> <i​ntr:envs.net> cheerrrrs
22:41:56 <m-relay> <r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> interloper: https://gist.github.com/kayabaNerve/e5b262c5efefcfcfa32748a0d99bc0e1
22:48:41 <m-relay> <i​ntr:envs.net> I see
23:55:16 <Moidelyn> https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/pruning.html
23:55:24 <Moidelyn> "Synchronize a pruned node from scratch: You will download and sync only 1/3 of the full blockchain." - I think this bit is misleading
23:55:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not really
23:56:17 <Moidelyn> XMR blockchain is about 220 GB now, but my node downloaded 170 GB even with pruning enabled. Granted, it still ended up with a 90 GB file which is roughly correct, but traffic-wise it downloaded a lot more.
23:57:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ah, the "download" part
23:57:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes, it downloads 100% of the blockchain
23:58:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And syncs 100% of it. It prunes after each batch syncs
23:59:00 <Moidelyn> I'd change "download" to "save", or clarify it further perhaps
23:59:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea