00:08:40 <m-relay> <321bob321:monero.social> Monero twatter spotted ^ 02:57:41 <m-relay> <umask777:decred.org> hm another plane crash on the midatlantic seaboard 02:58:23 <m-relay> <umask777:decred.org> how long until donny boy takes stage and says china is doing it... 🤔 02:59:24 <m-relay> <umask777:decred.org> perhaps we should start a pool 03:07:16 <m-relay> <crispycat:calitabby.net> 46_Dick_Cheney_3x4.jpg 15:33:41 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> https://neptune.cash/blog/betanet-v2/ 15:33:47 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> It's over XMR Bros, Monero will be replaced 15:33:57 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> Jump of the boat!!! 15:34:03 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> off the* 15:34:44 <m-relay> <ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> RetoSwap is so annoying. Everyone just want to profit instead of selling or buying XMR. 15:35:15 <Cindy> in other news, the sky is blue when the sun is up 15:36:10 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> LD: Yes, people thinking RetoSwap is the ultimate answer to monero delisting are delusional 15:37:42 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> I've tried 5 times already and it never worked around reasonable fees. Needing buy or sell your shit with 15% or -15% fees is ridiculous. Even web p2p platform that just handle BTC or BCH are cheaper 15:37:51 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Also, there is no liq on other exchanges 15:38:12 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Exch sells out regularly at 4% above market 15:38:18 <BlueyHealer> How's Bisq compared to this? 15:38:29 <Cindy> lol 15% fees? 15:38:32 <Cindy> that's a lot 15:38:36 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If you want to buy at market... heres a secret.. post a buy offer at market 😱 15:38:41 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> BlueyHealer, not that different, it's just less visible because there are a lot of people on Bisq 15:38:47 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> so more offers 15:38:47 <BlueyHealer> Also, does it work without owning prior BTC now? Someone told their no-deposit option is different from Haveno's. 15:38:51 <Cindy> i wanted to as you all something 15:38:53 <Cindy> ask* 15:38:56 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> I literally done that 15:38:58 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> why arent there any buy offers at market? Bcuz they are taken quickly 15:39:07 <Cindy> what's a good range of fees for users? 15:39:09 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> I'm posting my own offers 15:39:12 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> no one take it 15:39:20 <m-relay> <ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Have been trying to buy at market price for a whole day. 15:39:25 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Me too 🥲🏳️⚧️ 15:39:32 <BlueyHealer> ofrnxmr, because accepting crypto as payment is illegal in some places so you'd need some OPSEC. 15:39:35 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Whoops, the flag was accident 15:39:38 <Cindy> i mean, for people to accept 15:39:48 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> I can believe that 15:39:48 <m-relay> <ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Have been trying to buy at market price for a whole day. With three offers with different payment methods. 15:39:53 <Cindy> ofrnxmr: freudian slip 15:39:55 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Ikr. 🥲. I actually gave up a cpl week ago 15:40:16 <Cindy> BlueyHealer: that's right 15:40:24 <Cindy> i actually hate that tbh 15:40:34 <Cindy> i live in one of those places 15:40:39 <BlueyHealer> ye same 15:41:25 <m-relay> <ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Is there a way to buy XMR with -2% max? 15:41:27 <BlueyHealer> I mean, you would probably be absolutely fine, just like a lot of people buying and selling drugs in the clearnet, govt seems to not care. But I'd still avoid it without VERY good OPSEC. 15:41:45 <Cindy> lol 15:42:16 <m-relay> <ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Is there a way to buy XMR with only losing 2% of money? 15:42:25 <BlueyHealer> So, is Bisq's method for small purchases without prior BTC ownership different from Haveno's? Like, can you just find a seller right there and get the initial amount? 15:42:39 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> LD: exchange to LTC 15:42:45 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> it's the only way 15:42:58 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> and i won't guarantee you get 2% loss 15:43:02 <m-relay> <syntheticbird:monero.social> and i won't guarantee you get less than 2% loss 15:43:29 <m-relay> <ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Sigh, why greed has to always ruin everything. 15:44:06 <Cindy> my country is planning to "unban" cryptocurrencies after several years, but with a giant twist 15:44:17 <Cindy> the government wants 30% of any exchange transactions 15:44:35 <BlueyHealer> exchanges KYC anyway 15:44:38 <Cindy> and also exchanges need to be done in government-approved crypto exchanges, so they can get their 30% 15:44:48 <m-relay> <ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> LOL 15:44:59 <BlueyHealer> Your tax might be "dealing with unexpected loans taken with your leaked KYC" 15:45:37 <BlueyHealer> Are fees on BTC okay for, like $30 purchases btw? 15:46:05 <Cindy> 30% is fucking crazy, and that's on top of the platform's fees and what else 15:46:22 <Cindy> i'd rather stick to what i had been doing while it was still banned lol 15:47:11 <BlueyHealer> Ye. For me the KYC is hard enough barrier of entry lol so don't even think of this. 15:47:27 <Cindy> same for me too 15:48:27 <Cindy> my govt just wants another thing they milk dry 15:48:35 <m-relay> <ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> I will do an experiment. How long it will take for me to buy XMR at market price. 15:48:39 <Cindy> they can milk dry* 15:48:55 <BlueyHealer> ldutovas, yeah, interesting. 15:49:07 <m-relay> <ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Will leave my offer at 0.00% until someone sells. 15:49:11 <BlueyHealer> (ugh I hate that Matrix usernames cannot be tabbed to autocomplete! 15:49:39 <Cindy> well 15:49:50 <Cindy> i always just write their names 17:56:07 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/BhQnbeHPnWDcyqPzcODgRlQl 17:56:08 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/WQtsYFwDZYyprNMbHZufSLwm 17:56:10 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/oAekkgJLBHrdhUwhnxijwsUE 17:56:12 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/kGRfTssrJYeKJCyoPGSvDQuM 17:56:14 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/FaqEpKyCYVeNHlqMuWTxaMID 17:56:16 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> hello! i need help with transfer XMR. I tried to use several wallets for the transaction but nothing works for me. it says that I do not have enough available funds to send and also errors. very strange because according to the calculation everything should be ok as you can see in the screenshots. when I check the wallet address in the blockchain it is not found, but the wallets a<clipped message> 17:56:18 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> re active and there have already been transactions for withdrawal of funds. please help with advice. 18:02:10 <m-relay> <mayhem69:matrix.org> what happens if you try less that 84.2? try 84 or 80? 18:02:34 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> { waiting for image to load } 18:03:02 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You have to update your feather wallet to the latest version 18:07:41 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Also, follow this and click the "max" button 18:08:29 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> I have already tried sending 80 and 84 as you can see in the screenshots 18:08:59 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> This "too many inputs" error shouldn't happen. If you have more than 146 inputs than you probably need to use the "max" button 18:10:19 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Max does a "sweep_all". It should split the 1 tx into multiple tx that are less than 146 inputs. 18:11:02 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> I downloaded the latest current version from the official website and loaded the blockchain. I use an exchanger and I need to send an exact amount. I have never had such problems before, but I have never sent such an impressive amount either. 18:11:47 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> use "max" button to send to yourself first 18:12:29 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> this will combine your 146+ inputs into 1 input 18:13:27 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> ok I'll try. thanks! 18:17:13 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> Is it possible to calculate the xmp commission for using the MAX function in advance before creating an application in the exchanger? 18:34:45 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> send it to yourself first 18:34:46 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Send MAX to your own wallet address, then after it confirms, do your transfer 18:40:08 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/pnettMAgQUZtgyVSgYSMlIdh 18:41:32 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> I used the max function but it happened again 18:41:35 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> perhaps there are some other options? 18:49:08 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/tEZFVZLhOEjjoDhyoliLwSFD 18:49:10 <m-relay> <artes91:matrix.org> oh my god. finally i managed to do it from another wallet. thank you! 18:51:58 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Not sure why it errored in feather tbh 18:52:50 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> Артём Олейниченко can you join #feather:monero.social and share the issue? 18:53:02 <m-relay> <basses:matrix.org> feather dev can help you out 18:57:22 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Артём Олейниченко i'd recommend doing this self-spend a couple more times, because its easy now to a consists your tx with you 18:58:22 <m-relay> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> It created 6 transactions that are trivially traceable to your handle and wallet address 19:20:13 <m-relay> <martin.monero:matrix.org> 84.2 nice 20:31:31 <m-relay> <ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Managed to buy Monero with 1% loss through RetoSwap, this is some insane luck right there. 20:47:12 <BlueyHealer> Congrats) 20:59:23 <m-relay> <ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Another trade got accept for market price. I think this has something to do with time. During the day, nobody would accept even with 2% loss, now it's possible to buy even at market price.