00:04:52 wonder if they are going to open source server's code, it is waste to just let go all the time and code spent 00:05:03 wonder if they are going to open source server's code, it is waste to just let go all the time spent and code written 00:23:04 <321bob321:monero.social> Show me the moniez 01:13:46 rahl, its been updated. Thanks 01:44:27 > Tornado Cash co-founder Alexey Pertsev released from prison <- Hope he fully recovers from the trauma soon! 02:18:10 oh great monero chat is being used as a standard /biz/ crypto chat 02:18:16 monero doesn't make you money monero is money 02:50:31 I made quite a bit of money from Monero. 02:51:00 It's money in the same way fiat is money, but I also make money from forex fiat trading. One doesn't prevent the other. 03:02:05 One kills the spirit of the other 04:49:09 ofrnxmr: cheers. much appreciated 05:32:10 Is it possible to sent exact amount taking into account the commission? 05:33:06 I want to send exactly N xmr even if recipient will receive N-eps 05:42:57 you mean network fee? 05:43:07 yes 06:09:43 Yea but only using cli or rpc 11:18:28 Does any one have experience with integrated address with the rpc?. When ever i send to a integrated address, my unlocked balance goes to 0, unitil block confirmation 11:35:29 Notmal with any address 11:42:10 yes i know some funds get locked, but not all. for example on on the testnet i have 10 xmr i send 0.1 from that account to a integrated address, unlocked balance goes to 0. I do the same process but to a normal address only a few xmr gets locked, unlocked balance does not go to 0 11:58:12 If you only have 1 input in your wallet, then all funds are locked 11:59:15 1 input worth 10xmr -> "send 1xmr" == send 10 xmr, get 9 xmr in change == the 9xmr is locked 11:59:32 1 input is all funds are on one address? 12:00:17 no. Inputs are split per transaction received 12:00:42 So if you send 2 transfers of 5xmr to the address, you will have 2 inputs of 5xmr 12:02:04 If you were to then send 1 xmr, youd consume one 5xmr input, and youd have 5xmr unlocked + 4xmr change locked 12:16:54 ok thanks, i think i reed the docs again 18:15:47 First time i get the `There were X blocks in the last 90 minutes` warning 18:15:49 interesting 18:33:54 You need to watch more closely :P 18:34:35 rino had a block frequeny monitor, not sure id still up 18:35:39 But blocks are sometimes like 2x and sometimes less than half. When we had oscillating 1.5gh a couple years ago, it was a lil obnoxious 19:56:26 Please vote on the poll: https://matrix.to/#/!pBnQQFvuFhLffbKZpY:haveno.network/$dki8Q3ENddVIZ08PVaBQuThCCpYZ_yhI2wFm6-kL3DY?via=cypherstack.com&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social 19:56:49 CRITICAL VULNERABILITY IN MONEROD!!!!!! 19:56:56 hope i get your attention like that 19:57:27 CRITICAL VULNERABILITY IN MONERO WALLETS!!!!!! 19:57:32 sry for spam irc 19:59:08 alright alright shortcow ill delete it 20:06:29 pardon me irc for the bad joke 20:30:35 some say lightning network is more private than monero 20:31:18 great_taste well i hope they don't use it for illicit purpose otherwise the FBI investigation is gonna be quickly resolved 20:47:56 Why all CC store ALL transactions? There is no way to maintain the state without it? Im afraid of blockchain growing, because it will not fit on consumer's hdd 20:49:06 CC? 20:49:23 cryptocurrency 20:50:03 <321bob321:monero.social> CCS* 20:50:36 Bcuz if you have old tx you have to be able to reference them to spend them 20:51:29 and be able to prove they havent been spent 20:51:57 Isn't there a danger that the blockchain will eventually grow so large that it will become very difficult to store? 20:52:22 > Why all CC store ALL transactions? 20:52:22 Because per their protocol and consensus they need to have access to all historical information to verify/emit/reject a transaction/make the cryptocurrency work 20:52:24 > There is no way to maintain the state without it? 20:52:26 No 20:52:28 > Im afraid of blockchain growing, because it will not fit on consumer's hdd 20:52:30 If you follow ArticMine on scalability, this isn't an issue. Note that there is a well known solution called "Recursive zero-knowledge proof" which can permit to prune the blockchain up to a certain height, and then you can do your work with just a cryptographic proof of the past. In theory you could keep the blockchain size to under 1MB if you wanted but it comes with caveats lik 20:52:32 e having to keep your wallet online to receive your funds, otherwise they are lost forever 20:53:32 https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/110 20:53:50 see this issue shortcow for monero research lab discussion on the topic 20:55:52 is ArticMine real not anonymous man?! 20:56:07 I see photos on duckduckgo 20:56:22 lmao no 20:56:37 he was chillin in webcam hours long during latest monero talkk 20:56:39 he was chillin in webcam hours long during latest monero talk 20:56:45 he made several presentations at monerokon 21:04:10 Is he core member? Why he doent afraid of government bastards? 21:07:57 he is core. because government isn't really interested into Core. at least yet 21:08:01 the only anonymous member of core is luigi 21:15:58 Well, now I won't sleep peacefully, but will wait for the backdoors in next updates 21:18:11 The times you fail to sleep and stay up, you can spend the time auditing commits. Then you can be sound asleep. 21:18:27 He also doesnt have access to the infra 21:19:22 infra like dns, servers, github etc 21:20:14 Or wallets 21:20:28 Yah try find it in the code 21:21:56 Someone tried to convince me that the majority of monero core developers are known informants 21:22:37 it was proven in court documents, allegedly 🙃 21:23:59 they couldnt name any, or source which court docs, obv 21:26:19 About reviewing code... I have some global ideas how to solve this problems, not only about monero, but now its only dreams, so i dont want to talk about it now. But, obviously, its requires too much time for 1 man to review all software that he use 21:28:03 What 21:29:35 Never mind 21:30:03 SAST tools exist https://www.veracode.com/products/binary-static-analysis-sast/ 21:32:59 This is the first time I've seen this program, but obviously there is no analyzer that you can simply feed another program in regular languages to and get an answer whether the program is written correctly or not. 21:36:32 oh you're right i forgot 21:36:42 binaryFate does have access and isn't anon fwiw 21:41:37 cc ofrnxmr 21:41:47 i failed my answer on matrix 22:43:18 Is using Monero as user-friendly as just using Cake Wallet? 22:45:07 It is, will get friendlier when wallets support lws 22:45:23 <17lifers:matrix.org> monero gui wallet is for desktop users and cakewallet is to put on your phone 22:47:41 Cake wallet is also released on desktop if you like the mobile experience and don't want to use another software. 22:49:00 <17lifers:matrix.org> hmm i live under a rock dont i 22:50:55 It’s still beta 22:51:05 <17lifers:matrix.org> that explains it 22:51:19 So is monero tho 22:51:46 And so is everything in life 22:52:00 Not really 22:52:16 Plenty of 1.0+ software 22:52:52 1.0 doesn’t meant not beta 22:53:23 Cake for desktop has same version as their mobile, but doesn’t mean they label it as stable 22:59:23 1.0 is usually the first stable release 22:59:36 You can have betas after that 22:59:58 like 2.0 beta 🙃 23:03:01 I hope you are not putting your money on beta coins 23:05:35 Monero is a bets 23:05:50 There are a lot of coins on exchanges that are literal testnets 23:44:27 So xmr is stagenet if its beta ? 23:53:16 No 23:53:18 Stagenet is identical to mainnet. Stagenet is for developers to build their apps on 23:54:16 The only diff between stagenet and mainnet is volume, hashrate etc. The code is identical.